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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 14, 2019 16:10:36 GMT -5
Wanted to take a moment to list stuff I'm way grateful actually made available to STM/SR fans over the years that weren't necessarily guaranteed to come out, plus stuff I still want on my xmas wish list  : Grateful for: #1: Donner Cut #2: STM bluray letterbox extended tv cut #3: Hot Toys Chris Reeve Superman #4: Hot Toys Jor-el #5: SR as the continuation of Donner/Reeve's Superman version #6: That wonderful metal dvd box set! #7: Superboy tv series on dvd #8: Deleted "Return to Krypton" scene released #9: Deleted Superman IV scenes (most of them) #10: CD box set of Superman soundtracks #11: Caped Wonder podcast series (highly highly recommended) Hopeful for: #1: SII bluray letterbox extended tv cut #2: More alternate and deleted scenes from SII released #3: Arnie Kim's Hot Toys versions of the Phantom Zone criminals- saw photos of prototypes - and they're WONDERFUL! #4: Hot Toys Helen Slater #5: (To a lesser degree) Hot Toys Nuclear Man #6: Jim Bowers' Coffee Table book (which for some reason had a mountain of obstacles by WB and crossing fingers it comes out) #7: that the world, particularly where I live in the in the US, survives tne next four years ;p |
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Post by Metallo on Dec 14, 2019 16:25:40 GMT -5
Hot toys needs to make an updated Brandon Routh Superman figure in the Kingdom Come inspired suit. The SR figure is pretty dated at this point and they’ve made some incredible advancements in sculpting and painting. I’d also take an updated SR figure along with it. They’ve got to know there’s some demand out there with his return to the Superman role being as well received as its been.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 14, 2019 18:25:03 GMT -5
Hot toys needs to make an updated Brandon Routh Superman figure in the Kingdom Come inspired suit. The SR figure is pretty dated at this point and they’ve made some incredible advancements in sculpting and painting. I’d also take an updated SR figure along with it. They’ve got to know there’s some demand out there with his return to the Superman role being as well received as its been. Yeah- I have the Hot Toys Superman Routh- but it really doesn't look much like him. A Kingdom Come Routh would be awesome--- much to save up for! On another note- Arnie Kim has said that Hot Toys hasn't contacted him to produce the Phantom Zone criminals- yet. Pity, but at least I can save up before then...! (If I find the pics I'll upload- they're amazing) |
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Post by Metallo on Dec 15, 2019 9:56:24 GMT -5
Next year would be the time to at least do Zod for Superman II’s 40th anniversary.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 16, 2019 4:29:18 GMT -5
Next year would be the time to at least do Zod for Superman II’s 40th anniversary. Never paid attention to the years, wasn't aware that it was- how cool, though! - that would be great if we get a few things for the 40th next year...  |
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Post by booshman on Dec 19, 2019 1:37:16 GMT -5
Hopeful for: #1: SII bluray letterbox extended tv cut #3: Arnie Kim's Hot Toys versions of the Phantom Zone criminals- saw photos of prototypes - and they're WONDERFUL! #5: (To a lesser degree) Hot Toys Nuclear Man ;p 1) Me too pal. 3) Hadn't seen these, wow, amazing stuff. Shame they're 1/4 scale and not 1/6. I love than non even has lifts on his shoes.  5) I made a start on one a while back, but never finished it.  Hot toys needs to make an updated Brandon Routh Superman figure in the Kingdom Come inspired suit. The SR figure is pretty dated at this point and they’ve made some incredible advancements in sculpting and painting. I’d also take an updated SR figure along with it. They’ve got to know there’s some demand out there with his return to the Superman role being as well received as its been. I got a new head sculpt for my Routh Superman and changed out the body. The only thing original is the suit and boots. It's an improvement I think, but I'd love to see what HT could manage at their present quality level if they ever revisited it.  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 19, 2019 3:01:32 GMT -5
Great to 'see' you here, Booshman! Both your 'Nuclear Man' and new Routh Supes look GREAT! The thing that's exciting about that Nuclear Man was the rumor that Reeve was discussed as playing him in the beginning--- so to see a Reeve version of Nuclear Man is even cooler to get a feel of 'what if' Superman IV had the tech at the time to have made filming that possible- and how they might have re-designed Nuclear Man to be more like Reeve's clone (which made more sense as he pretty much seemed to be written as a somewhat defective clone of Supes). |
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Post by Metallo on Dec 19, 2019 9:13:20 GMT -5
Hopeful for: #1: SII bluray letterbox extended tv cut #3: Arnie Kim's Hot Toys versions of the Phantom Zone criminals- saw photos of prototypes - and they're WONDERFUL! #5: (To a lesser degree) Hot Toys Nuclear Man ;p 1) Me too pal. 3) Hadn't seen these, wow, amazing stuff. Shame they're 1/4 scale and not 1/6. I love than non even has lifts on his shoes. 5) I made a start on one a while back, but never finished it. Hot toys needs to make an updated Brandon Routh Superman figure in the Kingdom Come inspired suit. The SR figure is pretty dated at this point and they’ve made some incredible advancements in sculpting and painting. I’d also take an updated SR figure along with it. They’ve got to know there’s some demand out there with his return to the Superman role being as well received as its been. I got a new head sculpt for my Routh Superman and changed out the body. The only thing original is the suit and boots. It's an improvement I think, but I'd love to see what HT could manage at their present quality level if they ever revisited it. Wow. Those do indeed look great. Even your custom Routh Superman is an improvement on the official release. That’s a good head sculpt. They’re just leaving money on the table if they don’t give him new figures and make the phantom zoners. At least release Zod. Seems like a no brainer. |
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Post by atp on Dec 19, 2019 13:43:45 GMT -5
Great to 'see' you here, Booshman! Both your 'Nuclear Man' and new Routh Supes look GREAT! The thing that's exciting about that Nuclear Man was the rumor that Reeve was discussed as playing him in the beginning--- so to see a Reeve version of Nuclear Man is even cooler to get a feel of 'what if' Superman IV had the tech at the time to have made filming that possible- and how they might have re-designed Nuclear Man to be more like Reeve's clone (which made more sense as he pretty much seemed to be written as a somewhat defective clone of Supes). The Reeve Only People would approve if he had played Nuclear Man |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 19, 2019 23:56:28 GMT -5
Great to 'see' you here, Booshman! Both your 'Nuclear Man' and new Routh Supes look GREAT! The thing that's exciting about that Nuclear Man was the rumor that Reeve was discussed as playing him in the beginning--- so to see a Reeve version of Nuclear Man is even cooler to get a feel of 'what if' Superman IV had the tech at the time to have made filming that possible- and how they might have re-designed Nuclear Man to be more like Reeve's clone (which made more sense as he pretty much seemed to be written as a somewhat defective clone of Supes). The Reeve Only People would approve if he had played Nuclear Man Besides the budget disaster with SIV, I wonder if the limited sfx tech where we saw a similar scenario with Superman III also made the filmmakers not want to go forward with Reeve as both. |
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Post by Metallo on Dec 20, 2019 6:46:26 GMT -5
It was a difficult thing to do back then either way but I think Superman IVs smaller budget combined with Nuclear Mans larger role (compared to the evil Superman) made it even more difficult. Add on top of that Reeve’s duties behind the scenes and it was even more unfeasible for them. I don’t know when the choice was made to let him direct some second unit stuff but maybe I’d assume it was after they decided not to have him play both roles. I think it was smart to drop it either way since it was too much like what they’d done with Superman III.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Dec 20, 2019 23:14:37 GMT -5
It was a difficult thing to do back then either way but I think Superman IVs smaller budget combined with Nuclear Mans larger role (compared to the evil Superman) made it even more difficult. Add on top of that Reeve’s duties behind the scenes and it was even more unfeasible for them. I don’t know when the choice was made to let him direct some second unit stuff but maybe I’d assume it was after they decided not to have him play both roles. I think it was smart to drop it either way since it was too much like what they’d done with Superman III. Right- unless the script was going to be deeper- and if they made a Reeve/Nuclear Man an interesting character study on it's own--- but I doubt it. Still, to me, I think SIV's script was probably as good as it could have been given the parameters/restrictions that I feel were probably still in place. The idea of Superman tackling getting rid of all nuclear weapons was an interesting creative experiment I thought, but just too many other factors beyond the script I thought also brought it down. (Unlikely Supes would have been allowed to have had a kid) As far as Reeve & second direction- I remember that somewhere it was said that Reeve wanted to write the basic story & direct, but that the second unit stuff (I think the moon fight) he was allowed to direct was probably a bit of a concession to Reeve. Also- I have this odd hunch that as the budget got slashed in half, I wouldn't be suprised if Reeve was somewhat ghost directing, with so much that he must have felt was on the line with this film. I still enjoy enough of Superman IV- but, besides the poor fx (which I got used to quick - you had to, or make youself miserable)--- it was jarring to see how much the supporting actors had aged, but were written/ directed in a way that seemed to try to pretend no time had passed- which made me wince a few times I admit. Add to that, the rather ugly/cheap look for the production throughout. I'm still glad it was made, and Reeve was ageless as Supes- but to me I think the final straw for the audience was chopping the movie down to incomprehension by the last act. I still saw the movie multiple times in the theatre to appreciate the good- but I do wonder if they hadn't done such a severe edit to the movie, if it would have done much better or not.... |
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