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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 7, 2020 15:16:27 GMT -5
It's another depressing day of horribleness in the world: need a distraction.
SO....
If you were given a billion dollars by WB to use the Donner footage and make a new cut, with fx/reshoots available, what would you do?
If it were me...
#1: Preserve the Donner/Baird footage at all costs into the cut. The tv cut SEEMS to be the most 'pure' Donner/Baird footage outside of the last scene in the RDC in the FOS where the villains land/approach Supes.
#2: Hire WETA to film Chris Reeve's son & Margot's daughter & Terrence Zod, Jack O'Halloran, and Sarah Douglass (and perhaps other actors) to act out/meld with CGI all the missing scenes, deaging and whatnot.
#3: Get Stuart Baird to consult on editing
#4: If Donner were willing of course, to have him direct the new footage- but not let him cut out or change the aesthetics originally set during STM/SII.
#5: Go with the Mankiewicz script
#6: The ending? I'd say do two versions-
* Version 1 has time reversal- but what I feel was missing was the scene Spengler mentioned that didn't seem to be there: Superman seeing half of the world destroyed & motivating the time reversal
* Version 2 without time reversal- perhaps a reworked/re-edited memory kiss scene?
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Post by atp on Mar 10, 2020 1:52:36 GMT -5
I'd get rid of any recap from the first movie. S2 was supposed to be the other half of STM, not a normal sequel. So audiences don't really need a lengthy reminder of what happened. I find the Krypton trial recaps clumsy and redundant in both Lester's and Donner's S2.
If you want to show a recap of the villains, it can go in the opening credits scene with the other clips. That's actually something I like about the theatrical S2.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 10, 2020 15:19:52 GMT -5
I'd get rid of any recap from the first movie. S2 was supposed to be the other half of STM, not a normal sequel. So audiences don't really need a lengthy reminder of what happened. I find the Krypton trial recaps clumsy and redundant in both Lester's and Donner's S2. If you want to show a recap of the villains, it can go in the opening credits scene with the other clips. That's actually something I like about the theatrical S2. I agree that the recap is pretty clunky in the RDC-- if they were going to reshow it- I would have much preferred it ALL be alternate takes to really make it a new experience. Still- if going back to that time- The Mank script does mention a quick recap.... But- Since the villains are explained by the time Lex goes into the FOS--- it might have been interesting to completely lop off replaying the trial--- but- ideally, it would have been far better to have had this be a 'end credit' or 'post credit' scene as originally intended for STM. One of the few things I did like about the Lester cut was the way they integrated the recaps with the flying credits.... though having some of the items go out of order from the first film was pretty sloppy... |
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Post by atp on Mar 10, 2020 16:07:28 GMT -5
I'd get rid of any recap from the first movie. S2 was supposed to be the other half of STM, not a normal sequel. So audiences don't really need a lengthy reminder of what happened. I find the Krypton trial recaps clumsy and redundant in both Lester's and Donner's S2. If you want to show a recap of the villains, it can go in the opening credits scene with the other clips. That's actually something I like about the theatrical S2. I agree that the recap is pretty clunky in the RDC-- if they were going to reshow it- I would have much preferred it ALL be alternate takes to really make it a new experience. Still- if going back to that time- The Mank script does mention a quick recap.... But- Since the villains are explained by the time Lex goes into the FOS--- it might have been interesting to completely lop off replaying the trial--- but- ideally, it would have been far better to have had this be a 'end credit' or 'post credit' scene as originally intended for STM. One of the few things I did like about the Lester cut was the way they integrated the recaps with the flying credits.... though having some of the items go out of order from the first film was pretty sloppy... Another possible way to recap the trial is in a comic book format. Same as the opening of STM. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 10, 2020 21:04:48 GMT -5
I agree that the recap is pretty clunky in the RDC-- if they were going to reshow it- I would have much preferred it ALL be alternate takes to really make it a new experience. Still- if going back to that time- The Mank script does mention a quick recap.... But- Since the villains are explained by the time Lex goes into the FOS--- it might have been interesting to completely lop off replaying the trial--- but- ideally, it would have been far better to have had this be a 'end credit' or 'post credit' scene as originally intended for STM. One of the few things I did like about the Lester cut was the way they integrated the recaps with the flying credits.... though having some of the items go out of order from the first film was pretty sloppy... Another possible way to recap the trial is in a comic book format. Same as the opening of STM. That's a GREAT idea. I never was all that crazy about seeing the exact same footage over again. The original idea for STM was to end with the comic book format with the kid turning to the last page of the comic and 'come back next time for more adventures'--- Kind of wish that Donner had kept that ending as a 'bookend' for all of them... But then again- It's a bummer that things went south so quick in the franchise with SII... the idea of perfectionism went out the window once it was decided to shoot 'quick/ fast/ cheap' with Lester ... |
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