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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 10, 2020 20:40:56 GMT -5
Assuming for a fan edit... which appearances looked the most 'Superman' like still?
Earliest to latest-
*Gray Lady Down (1978)
* Somewhere in TIme (1980)
* Deathtrap (1982)
* Monsignor (1982)
* Faerie Tale Theatre (tv series) "Prince Charming'- (1983)
* Bostonians (1984)
* Aviator (1985)
* Anna Karenina (tv) 1985
* Street Smart (1987)
* Switching Channels (1988)
* The Great Escape II: (tv movie) 1988
* Bobby Brown: On our Own (Video short) 1989
* Rose and the Jackal (1990)
* Bump in the Night (tv) 1991
* Carol & Company (tv) 1991
* Avolnlea (tv) 1992
* Noises Off... (1992)
* Tales from Crypt (tv) 1992
* MOrtal Sins (tv) 1992
* Seat Wolf (tv) 1993
* Morning Glory (1993)
* Remains of the Day (1993)
* Speechless (1994)
* Village of the Damned (1995)
sidenote: from imdb:
Turned down the lead role in American Gigolo (1980) which went to Richard Gere. Turned down the role of Fletcher Christian in The Bounty (1984) which went to Mel Gibson. Turned down the lead role in Body Heat (1981) which went to William Hurt. Turned down the role of Mason Verger in Hannibal (2001) which went to Gary Oldman. In 1976, turned down the role of Mark Harris in Man from Atlantis (1977) which went to Patrick Duffy. Turned down the role of Jack T. Colton in Romancing the Stone (1984) which went to Michael Douglas, who also served as one of the film's producers.
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Post by Metallo on Apr 12, 2020 15:37:14 GMT -5
You could probably use footage from Death Trap and Monsignor since those were made around the same period he made the Superman movies and was still relatively young and looked clean shaven. His hair is lighter but that could be gotten around with some filters or something. In some of those other earlier films he either had a mustache or his hair was way too different.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 12, 2020 19:47:07 GMT -5
You could probably use footage from Death Trap and Monsignor since those were made around the same period he made the Superman movies and was still relatively young and looked clean shaven. His hair is lighter but that could be gotten around with some filters or something. In some of those other earlier films he either had a mustache or his hair was way too different. Good point... On another note- While looking at the list of films he did do.... I wonder what else he might have been best for. Every actor seems to have a 'niche' or type of role that the audience loves to see them in- Reeve wanted to play different things (and he did) but it's hard to envision something that was big that he would have been 'just right' for outside of Superman & Somewhere in Time- |
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Post by Metallo on Apr 13, 2020 12:12:34 GMT -5
There were a lot of things Reeve was right for and some stuff, even stuff he did, where I thought he was miscast. Good actor but he wasn’t a chameleon like some of his contemporaries. There was a lot of him in his roles. He was good at playing snarky villainous or despicable characters but of a certain type. After rewatching Street Smart he was good in it and even the right fit for his role but there were better choices. He was blown away by his co stars in that. I think the role was underwritten compared to some others. Meanwhile I was rewatching Death Dreams and he’s a real piece of crap excuse for a human being and he excelled in that role.
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Post by atp on Apr 13, 2020 12:44:49 GMT -5
Assuming for a fan edit... which appearances looked the most 'Superman' like still? Earliest to latest- *Gray Lady Down (1978) * Somewhere in TIme (1980) * Deathtrap (1982) * Monsignor (1982) * Faerie Tale Theatre (tv series) "Prince Charming'- (1983) * Bostonians (1984) * Aviator (1985) * Anna Karenina (tv) 1985 * Street Smart (1987) * Switching Channels (1988) * The Great Escape II: (tv movie) 1988 * Bobby Brown: On our Own (Video short) 1989 * Rose and the Jackal (1990) * Bump in the Night (tv) 1991 * Carol & Company (tv) 1991 * Avolnlea (tv) 1992 * Noises Off... (1992) * Tales from Crypt (tv) 1992 * MOrtal Sins (tv) 1992 * Seat Wolf (tv) 1993 * Morning Glory (1993) * Remains of the Day (1993) * Speechless (1994) * Village of the darned (1995) Those are all Reeve-Only-People roles |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 13, 2020 15:57:38 GMT -5
There were a lot of things Reeve was right for and some stuff, even stuff he did, where I thought he was miscast. Good actor but he wasn’t a chameleon like some of his contemporaries. There was a lot of him in his roles. He was good at playing snarky villainous or despicable characters but of a certain type. After rewatching Street Smart he was good in it and even the right fit for his role but there were better choices. He was blown away by his co stars in that. I think the role was underwritten compared to some others. Meanwhile I was rewatching Death Dreams and he’s a real piece of crap excuse for a human being and he excelled in that role. The good/bad is the physicality being such a large part of casting. Anyone who looks perfect for Superman (tall, dark, handsome) would be hard to be cast for everything, I agree. There's a specific image that comes to mind for Supes... and Supes should stand out and not necessarily look like a regular guy on the street. |
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Post by Metallo on Apr 13, 2020 22:24:22 GMT -5
It’s not so much the physical part I’m talking about but his range as an actor and how much he could change certain things about his personality to fit a role. Yeah his looks limited him from certain things but you could say that about most actors. Some actors would never be considered for roles he was. Reeve was solid but anything he was “great” at was narrow. Other good looking classically handsome actors had and have the style and ability to play a wider range of roles and were a better fit.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 14, 2020 4:32:29 GMT -5
It’s not so much the physical part I’m talking about but his range as an actor and how much he could change certain things about his personality to fit a role. Yeah his looks limited him from certain things but you could say that about most actors. Some actors would never be considered for roles he was. Reeve was solid but anything he was “great” at was narrow. Other good looking classically handsome actors had and have the style and ability to play a wider range of roles and were a better fit. I think it was Nicholas Meyer who said that many times a character is half performance and half is the 'real' person that an actor is... I don't know if that's necessarily true- but I agree that each actor has a certain amount of range in which they can morph from who they are in real life and/or take on another persona wholly different from their own. If Reeve didn't find that many good roles for himself--- Many times I wonder why actors who hit a gold mine paycheck don't commission a writer to create a screenplay that's perfect for them--- but then again, maybe it's just not that simple and not everyone can do what Matt Damon & Affleck did with "Good Will Hunting"- In any case- it is of course tragic what happened to him physically, but judging my his memoirs, he did learn a lot about himself inside as a person through the tragedy and his value system turned upside down as far as getting the 'right' roles and the 'right' Hollywood career. Sadly, it seems like it takes a tragedy to appreciate many things taken for granted- sort of like where we are now in real life... |
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Post by Metallo on Apr 14, 2020 8:15:30 GMT -5
I think that’s true of every actor and performance. They’re all going to do it their own way. I think some just have different strengths and styles than others. Some have a knack for really being able to play anything and it’s not just about looks. Everyone is limited by look to some degree but if you could throw some makeup on them even those off limits roles could be pulled off by some.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 14, 2020 16:30:44 GMT -5
I think that’s true of every actor and performance. They’re all going to do it their own way. I think some just have different strengths and styles than others. Some have a knack for really being able to play anything and it’s not just about looks. Everyone is limited by look to some degree but if you could throw some makeup on them even those off limits roles could be pulled off by some. That's a good point. I can't imagine all the stresses involved in trying to have an acting career, which is already limited from the get go by age (but then again, could say that for a sports career as well). |
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Post by atp on Apr 19, 2020 13:37:03 GMT -5
I think Reeve would have been amazing in The Thorn Birds.
Richard Chamberlain was perfect in that role, but Reeve would have been just as good. Maybe even better.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 19, 2020 14:08:35 GMT -5
I think Reeve would have been amazing in The Thorn Birds. Richard Chamberlain was perfect in that role, but Reeve would have been just as good. Maybe even better. I remember how compelling that series was (the additional extra series they tried to milk without the full cast not so much). I think my problem with recasting Thorn Birds is that it left such a deep impression that it's hard for me to see anyone but Chamberlain in it. It's totally possible that Reeve could have been good as or better, though.... |
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Post by atp on Apr 19, 2020 14:13:05 GMT -5
I think Reeve would have been amazing in The Thorn Birds. Richard Chamberlain was perfect in that role, but Reeve would have been just as good. Maybe even better. I remember how compelling that series was (the additional extra series they tried to milk without the full cast not so much). I think my problem with recasting Thorn Birds is that it left such a deep impression that it's hard for me to see anyone but Chamberlain in it. It's totally possible that Reeve could have been good as or better, though.... It left an impression on me too. I still try watch it every few years. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 19, 2020 16:41:49 GMT -5
I remember how compelling that series was (the additional extra series they tried to milk without the full cast not so much). I think my problem with recasting Thorn Birds is that it left such a deep impression that it's hard for me to see anyone but Chamberlain in it. It's totally possible that Reeve could have been good as or better, though.... It left an impression on me too. I still try watch it every few years. I remember during that time frame, there were a number of high quality tv miniseries that those two producers had made. Sadly, not all of them available on hi-q dvd... |
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Post by Metallo on Apr 21, 2020 10:43:41 GMT -5
I think Reeve would have been amazing in The Thorn Birds. Richard Chamberlain was perfect in that role, but Reeve would have been just as good. Maybe even better. Yeah that’s exactly the kind of material he excelled at. I’ve wished for years that he’d done Firefox instead of Eastwood. He would have been a bit too young but otherwise he was a far better casting choice. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 21, 2020 16:51:17 GMT -5
I think Reeve would have been amazing in The Thorn Birds. Richard Chamberlain was perfect in that role, but Reeve would have been just as good. Maybe even better. Yeah that’s exactly the kind of material he excelled at. I’ve wished for years that he’d done Firefox instead of Eastwood. He would have been a bit too young but otherwise he was a far better casting choice. Never saw Firefox, but now I'm curious about it.... |
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