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Post by dejan on Aug 10, 2020 19:35:02 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Aug 12, 2020 10:33:30 GMT -5
Snyder can barely string two words together coherently. I think a big problem with his directing is he has trouble properly expressing himself verbally.
I can only imagine how awkward any commentary from him is. His talk show appearances for BvS were just embarrassing to watch. Hopefully he had a script or at least bullet points to keep him on track for this.
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Post by dejan on Aug 12, 2020 17:00:07 GMT -5
Snyder can barely string two words together coherently. I think a big problem with his directing is he has trouble properly expressing himself verbally. I can only imagine how awkward any commentary from him is. His talk show appearances for BvS were just embarrassing to watch. Hopefully he had a script or at least bullet points to keep him on track for this. You are not wrong there! I can barely make out a sentence myself. Still have not watched the entire thing yet.....looking at the comments on YouTube....it looks like the Zac acolytes are out in force....and they have no problem understanding him!......that's what happens when you as a fan.... only observe the visuals and pay no attention to the story telling.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 12, 2020 17:56:37 GMT -5
Snyder can barely string two words together coherently. I think a big problem with his directing is he has trouble properly expressing himself verbally. I can only imagine how awkward any commentary from him is. His talk show appearances for BvS were just embarrassing to watch. Hopefully he had a script or at least bullet points to keep him on track for this. I'm hardly the best public speaker myself, so I can't hold that against him.... Strangely, Bryan Singer (at the con appearances) also seemed to have a lot of difficulty expressing himself- but he does (mostly) great films. Go figure. When he's speaking on his own, though- or has a one-on-one written interview, both seem articulate enough... but Singer's creative arguments are interesting, while Snyder's creative arguments have me scratching my head (or banging my head against the wall). Again, I don't care if the final result is good, but when it's not, then it's more than a little irritating when hearing that the thought process beforehand was just as bad as what was on screen.
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Post by Metallo on Aug 12, 2020 20:03:08 GMT -5
It wouldn’t shock me if everyone here could do better expressing themselves than Snyder, gents. He’s bad. I mean REALLY bad.
I’ll hold it against him, CAM. The difference is you aren’t trying to lead a massive film production. If you’re responsible for such a huge complex films you HAVE to be able to properly communicate with your writers, your producers, your production designers, all your other department heads...and ESPECIALLY your actors.
I rag on Cavills acting lot but he clearly had no one there I charge to help him with a direction to go in as far as his performance which is the directors job.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 12, 2020 20:22:29 GMT -5
It wouldn’t shock me if everyone here could do better expressing themselves than Snyder, gents. He’s bad. I mean REALLY bad. I’ll hold it against him, CAM. The difference is you aren’t trying to lead a massive film production. If you’re responsible for such a huge complex films you HAVE to be able to properly communicate with your writers, your producers, your production designers, all your other department heads...and ESPECIALLY your actors. I rag on Cavills acting lot but he clearly had no one there I charge to help him with a direction to go in as far as his performance which is the directors job. I get what you're saying... but that's why I was shocked that a director whose work I respected (Singer) was SO bad at communicating. If you check out his talking to Hugh Jackman on character on the X-men 1.5 dvd-- my jaw dropped and gave way more credit to Jackman for his patience in trying to understand Singer's direction. If the studio is fine and the results turn out great, then while I agree and think it's extremely odd that a director doesn't have excellent communication skills- particularly in talking to actors--- given Singer's general track record, I probably wouldn't have any problem having Singer in charge of making a movie. With Snyder--- it's the end result that bugs me the most. What he said/says about wanting to kill off Jimmy Olsen for fun doesn't help. He seems like a nice person to his cast/crew, but.... that doesn't mean I'd put him in the director's chair.
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Post by Metallo on Aug 13, 2020 8:30:07 GMT -5
I think Singer just gets wrapped up in his own thoughts. He speaks well he’s just trying to convey a lot very fast and trips over his own words or enthusiasm and gets frustrated when other people don’t get it. Snyder truly can’t express himself verbally. It’s like he doesn’t know how. At best you get some combination of words like cool, badass, and maybe some sound effects ala Michael Winslow. He can’t be specific and he certainly isn’t articulate or deep thinking. That’s why his deeper themes come off as lip service because he doesn’t know how to properly tell a story. That’s something even Singer can do.
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Post by dejan on Aug 14, 2020 3:40:55 GMT -5
For those who are interested, if you go to approx.: 2.43 in the commentary Zac and Henry talk about wearing the Reeve suit
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If you go to the 2:50ish mark they talk about the Snyder cut
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