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Post by Jimbo on Sept 19, 2008 15:20:04 GMT -5
I doubt Konner and Rosenthal ever took their jobs seriously. Just look at their other scripts. Their highest claim to fame is story credit for Star Trek VI, but anything they wrote was promptly thrown out by Meyer.
Perhaps with a decent effects budget and Reeve playing Nuclear Man, the movie might have better served the weak script, but we'll never know. One thing is for sure, what's on the page IS better than what's on the screen. I'll give the writers some credit there.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Sept 19, 2008 15:49:29 GMT -5
I doubt Konner and Rosenthal ever took their jobs seriously. Just look at their other scripts. Their highest claim to fame is story credit for Star Trek VI, but anything they wrote was promptly thrown out by Meyer. Perhaps with a decent effects budget and Reeve playing Nuclear Man, the movie might have better served the weak script, but we'll never know. One thing is for sure, what's on the page IS better than what's on the screen. I'll give the writers some credit there. didnt they get to pitch another trek movie for nimoy ? seems like nimoy and shatner mention them in thier memoirs ... i agree- it made no sense for chris reeve NOT to play nuclear man. |
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 19, 2008 16:22:44 GMT -5
From what I can tell, Nimoy mentioned Konner/Rosenthal just once in his book saying that they contributed nothing to the script of Star Trek VI, and only got story credit for political reasons.
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Post by Kirok on Sept 19, 2008 22:06:05 GMT -5
Reeve as Nuclear Man would have been a definite improvement. Of course when you take it that far why call him "Nuclear Man" at all? Why not just make him Bizarro?
I think there were 2 reasons for Reeve not playing the part:
-They'd already done a "bad" Superman in III, and even had a battle between the good and bad Supermen.
-Money. This would be the more important reason obviously, as splitscreening and all the various extra work that comes with having one actor play two roles in one scene would have just been too much for the budget.
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 19, 2008 22:19:44 GMT -5
Considering they blatantly ripped off the flying sequence with Lois from the first movie, I'm sure it was money more than anything else.
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Post by KOEAGO on Sept 21, 2008 0:40:31 GMT -5
One thing is for sure, what's on the page IS better than what's on the screen. I'll give the writers some credit there. 428Q EXT. OBSERVATION DECK. NUCLEAR MAN soars into the air with LACY. 428R EXT. EDGE OF SPACE They leave the earth's atmosphere. 428S EXT. SUN AND MOON The moon slowly covers the sun AMENDMENT NO. 4 (pink) 11-Sept-86 428T CLOSE SHOT: NUCLEAR MAN Reacts horror struck at: 428U HIS P.O.V.: AN ECLIPSE 428V EXT.SPACE In the unnatural darkness, deprived of energy, NUCLEAR MAN goes rigid, helpless and immobile, still clutching LACY. 428W EXT. SPACE SUPERMAN flies to the rescue, releases LACY and together they sweep down towards the earth's surface.  |
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Post by EvilSupes on Sept 21, 2008 4:14:08 GMT -5
WTF?!? lol
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 23, 2008 4:42:41 GMT -5
Phew, the Nuclear Man 2 battle is completed. I'm very pleased with the results. Thanks to Ollie W, I had the resources to replace the unfinished effects with completed effects from the laserdisc.
The added bonus was that it also had the complete sound mix, with all the sound effects and score, and in good quality. That was a big time saver. I just need to go back and do the Metro Club and Nuclear Man 1 fight now...
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Post by EvilSupes on Sept 23, 2008 10:24:39 GMT -5
youtube me. ;D
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Post by Legsy on Sept 23, 2008 10:26:32 GMT -5
What be the ETA on this masterpiece?
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 23, 2008 11:31:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess I can put the around-the-world fight sequence up. Soon, quite soon. What be the ETA on this masterpiece? Well, I figure a week or two just to piece everything together. Creating the isolated score track manually will take another day or two. Then I gotta author the disc. I guess I'll actually create a menu for it. |
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Post by Legsy on Sept 23, 2008 13:00:40 GMT -5
Was that a zing at Mav?
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Post by EvilSupes on Sept 23, 2008 13:02:14 GMT -5
I actually cannot wait! This is one of the most anticipated edits for me. The other one I can't wait for is The Empire Strikes Back edit being done by Adywan.
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Post by Legsy on Sept 23, 2008 13:11:45 GMT -5
I think I have that edit. Is that correct, James?
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 23, 2008 13:33:25 GMT -5
Not at all. Besides, I made the disc for him, so if it was a zing, it'd be a zing at myself. ;D I think I have that edit. Is that correct, James? Yup, I sent you a copy. Adywan's ESB will be incredible, I'm sure. |
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Post by Legsy on Sept 23, 2008 14:01:13 GMT -5
Zinging oneself is a must from time to time. It helps keep you sane.
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Post by Olly H 82 on Sept 24, 2008 2:24:26 GMT -5
I was involved with Alex S with his cut but everything went tits up, just recently i went back to the old forums but found i was banned..very strange because i not gotten involved with the disputes.
Jim instead of trying to included the Nuclearman 1 scene just lengthen the plot of jeremy and Nuclearman 2. Im sure there are ways to get around it. Because once you included the NM1 you have another plot hole to deal with and thats the metro club. NM1 one scene should remain a deleted scene for the time being until the metro scene eventually appears.
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 24, 2008 11:50:00 GMT -5
The Metro Club scene is gone, however I'm substituting it so there will not be a plot hole.
I'm replacing the necessary bits (Clark and Lacy going to the club, NM1 meeting Lacy) with stills from the comic book. It's kinda rough, but it tells the story.
I'm including every available deleted scene from the DVD (except for one), even the unfinished effects when applicable, with the exception of the first Nuclear Man 2 battle, where I used laserdisc footage to replace the unfinished effect. The only deleted shot I won't include is NM1 and the woman in the alley and his sparky chest. The comic book panes will show that instead.
Special thanks to MAV for the comic book scans, and Ollie for the laserdisc footage.
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Post by EvilSupes on Sept 24, 2008 12:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 24, 2008 12:55:20 GMT -5
There is just music, yeah. I'm using one of the Paul Fishman tracks.
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Post by EvilSupes on Sept 24, 2008 13:12:48 GMT -5
YAY! Sounds very epic! ;D
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Post by Jimbo on Sept 24, 2008 13:29:40 GMT -5
Yes, Superman IV of epic proportions!
Wouldn't that be Superman III?
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Post by Legsy on Sept 24, 2008 13:31:48 GMT -5
Yes!
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Post by thepariah on Sept 24, 2008 15:23:58 GMT -5
FOR GREAT JUSTICE!
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Post by EvilSupes on Sept 24, 2008 16:19:37 GMT -5
pariah you sig just gets better and better.   |
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