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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 8, 2023 18:28:44 GMT -5
This sentiment is probably what drove Donner to resentment towards Lester. With his perfectionist attitude, he probably looked back at the work he completed for two and wanted to redo a large portion of it due to the rushed nature of the production. The 1931 Spanish version of Dracula had an advantage over the English version of looking at their rushes for the day and deciding to up them on a technical level. Yes, but it's also a miracle that Donner shot as much as he did of Part II given the time consuming process of setting everything up. Interesting that in the CapedWonder behind the scenes stills, the cameramen are covered in what appears to be a black quilt.....I am assuming that was done so as to obscure their own reflections in all the glass. There is no question in my mind that Donner would have reshot a decent chunk of what he had already lensed anyways. He even claims in the commentary that he would have called Brando back for some reshoots, had he been allowed to finish. You referenced the ability to see dailies quickly. Back in those days, you could sometimes be waiting for days before you actually got a chance to see what was shot on the day. Nowadays, ofcourse, directors can playback a take digitally , literally seconds after shooting it. Those are great points. When all is said and done- single insert shots that may have worked under Lester doesn't (to me) equal the derailing of the movie (especially the Metro battle) nor the low quality of Superman III--- Also.... with being able to see the DP footage- why the heck did Lester ok that horrible wig for Lois??? Sticks out like a sore thumb. A better performance is hard to acknowledge while wearing a rat on one's head. I'd argue that the rat gets more attention! And.... the straw that broke the camel's back for me was Lester not really doing anything to give enough credit to Donner in the making of. In the way that it's edited, it really makes it look like Lester did all the great scenes. BOOOO!!!! BOOO!!!! (Ok, your turn, now.)  |
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Post by Kamdan on Jun 9, 2023 3:22:46 GMT -5
Donner’s shot himself in the foot in that regard when he said that he didn’t want to share credit. This may be another repeat of my point, but I believe Donner was seriously thinking that everyone involved in the production was just going to walk out with him not returning. He was obviously wrong. I hear all the time that Jack O'Halloran didn’t want to return without Donner but obviously follow through on that threat.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 9, 2023 15:29:37 GMT -5
Donner’s shot himself in the foot in that regard when he said that he didn’t want to share credit. This may be another repeat of my point, but I believe Donner was seriously thinking that everyone involved in the production was just going to walk out with him not returning. He was obviously wrong. I hear all the time that Jack O'Halloran didn’t want to return without Donner but obviously follow through on that threat. I think it all goes to how much was brewing anger-wise throughout production... that the movie ended up great and got a great response critic and boxoffice wise probably made a part of Donner feel vindicated and feel that the producers should have apologized for how they treated him, and let him take over the reins of control for SII- rather than get sacked and replaced by Lester. Oddly, I could see both the producers' side (who initiated it and came up with the money) and Donner's side. Lester's, not so much, since he didn't give credit (imo) where it was due. (Until he apologizes to me and helps get the SII extended cut on blu ray to happen, then I'll change my tune. Also, he could buy me lunch. Just because. |
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