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Post by Metallo on Oct 14, 2023 12:21:45 GMT -5
I actually could have pictured Donner doing a fantastic Batman film- and have it be like Lethal Weapon 2 tonally- which had the dark edge along with the humor... but JUST dark enough. And I feel he would have done a similar approach- with an unknown for the lead, though I never read Mank's script for Batman. (at least not yet) Yes I think so too. I think a Donner Batman film would have been more grounded and a little more gritty than Burton’s gothic fantasy world. I doubt it would have been as dark or gritty as what Nolan, Snyder, or Reeves ended up doing but I could see Donner pulling off a pretty good serious Bronze Age style Batman movie. |
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Post by atp on Oct 15, 2023 6:28:36 GMT -5
I actually could have pictured Donner doing a fantastic Batman film- and have it be like Lethal Weapon 2 tonally- which had the dark edge along with the humor... but JUST dark enough. And I feel he would have done a similar approach- with an unknown for the lead, though I never read Mank's script for Batman. (at least not yet) Yes I think so too. I think a Donner Batman film would have been more grounded and a little more gritty than Burton’s gothic fantasy world. I doubt it would have been as dark or gritty as what Nolan, Snyder, or Reeves ended up doing but I could see Donner pulling off a pretty good serious Bronze Age style Batman movie. Yes, agreed. Mel Gibson would have possibly been cast as Bruce Wayne. And would have done a good job. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 16, 2023 1:28:16 GMT -5
I actually could have pictured Donner doing a fantastic Batman film- and have it be like Lethal Weapon 2 tonally- which had the dark edge along with the humor... but JUST dark enough. And I feel he would have done a similar approach- with an unknown for the lead, though I never read Mank's script for Batman. (at least not yet) Yes I think so too. I think a Donner Batman film would have been more grounded and a little more gritty than Burton’s gothic fantasy world. I doubt it would have been as dark or gritty as what Nolan, Snyder, or Reeves ended up doing but I could see Donner pulling off a pretty good serious Bronze Age style Batman movie. What I loved about STM/SII is that Mank/Donner's choices were pretty much one classic set piece after another in adapting the Superman legend- and I feel like Mank/Donner would have done the same with Batman. But- I do very much like Batman Begins- but LOVE Dark Knight as the best-ever Batman film so far, so if we couldn't have a Donner Batman, very much love TDK as "THE" Batman movie for me. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 16, 2023 1:29:47 GMT -5
Yes I think so too. I think a Donner Batman film would have been more grounded and a little more gritty than Burton’s gothic fantasy world. I doubt it would have been as dark or gritty as what Nolan, Snyder, or Reeves ended up doing but I could see Donner pulling off a pretty good serious Bronze Age style Batman movie. Yes, agreed. Mel Gibson would have possibly been cast as Bruce Wayne. And would have done a good job. Probably- though I'm shockingly more impressed with him as a director. He might have done an interesting directing job with Batman himself! And... I actually would have been rooting for Ray Liotta at that time as Bruce Wayne/Batman. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 16, 2023 19:15:46 GMT -5
Yes I think so too. I think a Donner Batman film would have been more grounded and a little more gritty than Burton’s gothic fantasy world. I doubt it would have been as dark or gritty as what Nolan, Snyder, or Reeves ended up doing but I could see Donner pulling off a pretty good serious Bronze Age style Batman movie. Yes, agreed. Mel Gibson would have possibly been cast as Bruce Wayne. And would have done a good job. I remember reading somewhere years ago, and I have no idea if it was true, that Donner once said he could have made a good Batman movie and that his guy would have been Gibson for Batman/Bruce Wayne. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 16, 2023 19:19:39 GMT -5
Yes, agreed. Mel Gibson would have possibly been cast as Bruce Wayne. And would have done a good job. Probably- though I'm shockingly more impressed with him as a director. He might have done an interesting directing job with Batman himself! And... I actually would have been rooting for Ray Liotta at that time as Bruce Wayne/Batman. I’ve always wondered how how an Alec Baldwin Batman would have turned out. We got a taste of that with The Shadow but that movie wasn’t exactly close to Burton’s take on Batman itself. I know Baldwin was one of the names considered but I can see why Burton didn’t choose him considering the way Burton saw the character. Ray Liotta as Joker is one I’ve heard thrown out there but I think he could have been a very interesting choice for Harvey Dent/Two Face. Mel Gibson also could have been an interesting pick to play Harvey. Before James Gunn got the gig there were rumors that WB was considering Mel Gibson to direct Suicide Squad 2. Something like that would be in his wheelhouse. I’m curious to see just what he could do with a comic book/ superhero |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 16, 2023 19:33:01 GMT -5
Yes I think so too. I think a Donner Batman film would have been more grounded and a little more gritty than Burton’s gothic fantasy world. I doubt it would have been as dark or gritty as what Nolan, Snyder, or Reeves ended up doing but I could see Donner pulling off a pretty good serious Bronze Age style Batman movie. What I loved about STM/SII is that Mank/Donner's choices were pretty much one classic set piece after another in adapting the Superman legend- and I feel like Mank/Donner would have done the same with Batman. But- I do very much like Batman Begins- but LOVE Dark Knight as the best-ever Batman film so far, so if we couldn't have a Donner Batman, very much love TDK as "THE" Batman movie for me. That’s one of the reasons STM works. It and Superman II are very mythic, very hero’s journey. STM is the classic origin story all the way through and it really does span years and galaxies. From Krypton to Smallville to Metropolis. It’s an epic story and they didn’t feel the need to reinvent the wheel. Man of Steel on the other hand tried to fix something that wasn’t broken by playing around with the structure and presentation of the origin but most versions of Superman’s origin from AOS to Superman TAS stuck to the story being told the same basic way for a reason. Donner just gave it a cinematic scope. II was a continuation of that. Man of Steel felt very grounded but less grand despite all the cgi spectacle because their take made the whole thing feel “small.” |
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