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Post by fggafagas on Jan 14, 2009 3:08:09 GMT -5
I've not read the series yet, but I've read summaries, and I've noticed that Earth 1 Superman isn't mentioned in any of them. The only Supermen are Earth 2 and Prime. Is he not in the series at all? Does he not play a big part? If not, what is he doing? He's Earth's (or the universe's) greatest hero and he plays no part in trying to stop such a huge disaster?
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jan 14, 2009 22:08:59 GMT -5
nono...he's all over it. It's just that COIE is SO MASSIVE that no summary can possibly do it justice. The biggest names generally associated with it are Barry Allen, Supergirl, and Earth 2 Superman. All for good reason, obviously.
Do yourself a favor, spend the $50 on the "Absolute Edition" of it, and lock yourself in your room for a weekend. I just re-read it a couple of weeks ago, and it's just staggering how cool it is. It's dense, and nearly incomprehensible, but it's FUN, and the George Perez and Jerry Ordway art is beyond perfect.
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Jan 15, 2009 3:12:15 GMT -5
Yeah, he was around, but more as a helping hand i believe to the whole picture. Well, if there's one thing i can remember, he helped whomp down anti-monitor in issue 11 i think. Geez, I gotta reread it now, too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2009 11:52:20 GMT -5
I got about half way through and had to give it up. Loved it, but it's just so damn much.
Beautiful art, indeed. One day I wanna get thru the whole thing, as it does truly seem like one of the most epic things to ever happen in comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 0:44:40 GMT -5
Jesus CHRIST, what?
I don't remember writing that. Holy shit. I've read Crisis before?! What?!?
That's...alarming....
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jun 26, 2011 19:41:07 GMT -5
Ah, but who was fggafagas?
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Post by MAVERICK on Jun 26, 2011 21:30:56 GMT -5
That was another of Adam's sad attempts ;D
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Post by eccentricbeing on Jun 27, 2011 17:37:11 GMT -5
The beauty of message boards is that you always discover something about yourself a few years later. Most of the time, people realize they were bigger assholes then. ;D
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jun 27, 2011 18:31:29 GMT -5
Lord, almost ALL of us, to a man, are SAINTS compared to how we behaved in this place's heyday.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jun 29, 2011 17:51:50 GMT -5
Lord, almost ALL of us, to a man, are SAINTS compared to how we behaved in this place's heyday. whearas I am more ass-hole-y. |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jun 29, 2011 17:55:57 GMT -5
actually, i did just borrow a copy of COIE, and wow...
it is ...daunting.
it's funny, a series that was punlished specifically to make DC comics MORE accessible, MORE newbie freindly ends up being HUGELY confusing.
heck, i'm from that era of comics, and i'm pretty fluent in 80's nerd, but damn- it was all i could do to keep up with it! i thinkin the future it should be published with a retro-edition of dc's who's who.
i'll chase this with zero hour, because i must hate myself. in the forward to COIE, marv wolfman says they seeded a clue as to how to wiggle out of barry allens death, but i havent got that far. i also don't know if that has ANYthing to do with later "crisis" or "flashpoint" but i guess i'll find out sooner or later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 11:38:57 GMT -5
I read more last night. I'm taking my time with it. But Jesus Christ. So much shit is starting to make so much more sense.
Crisis is truly one of the greatest goddamn things ever. It's so fun.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jul 7, 2011 15:59:44 GMT -5
I read more last night. I'm taking my time with it. But Jesus Christ. So much shit is starting to make so much more sense. Crisis is truly one of the greatest goddamn things ever. It's so fun. it's ...dense. reading it now, and hope to finish it tonight. the art/layout is flawless, the narrative is... well a bit too sprawling. you do need to read tie-ins to see what really happens. the core-issues are like a highlights real of the ramifications to the principle characters. |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jul 7, 2011 16:52:59 GMT -5
It is, by far, the first, and best, event of its kind. The ramifications were quite real and long-lasting. The art is flawless. And the deaths are meaningful. Supergirl's death is a real tearjerker. The whole thing needs music by John Williams and Basil Poledouris.
I remember reading this when it came out (I only bought a few issues, but read them on newsstands), and to a 7 or 8 year old, it was fucking MINDBLOWING. I couldn't believe what I was seeing on the page. It made me a little angry, actually, that they were fucking with stuff the way they are.
Let me put it this way. If the internet were around in 1985, we would see nerd rage over this that puts the nerd rage about the DC Reboot to fucking shame.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2011 11:46:49 GMT -5
Jesus Christ, yes. You aren't kidding. It would be awful. God, the 70s and 80s would've been pure heck with the internet around. Bah!
I'm experiencing emotions while reading Crisis that I never have before reading a comic. I've got a hundred pages left. I fucking love it.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 14, 2011 20:27:56 GMT -5
COIE a pretty amazing love-letter to a whole era of DC comics, and it showed in every panel of those comics. One big plus on Crisis' side is that the story was broad enough that other titles could connect to it, without it really being overly complicated, and it seemed to have a pretty good balance of being big enough to work with other titles, but self-contained enough so that you didn't HAVE to buy the other titles (something I wish current comics would pay more attention to).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 0:46:16 GMT -5
Finally finished Crisis the other night. I was taking my time with it. Savoring it.
GodDAMMIT, I should've read this long, long ago. It was INCREDIBLE. And SO much shit makes more sense now. Christ. What an undertaking it must've been.
The artwork is goddamn gorgeous. I love how each character from each Earth looks how they should and it still works and doesn't look silly next to another version of...uh...themself? Theirself? Shit. I dunno.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jul 29, 2011 7:15:57 GMT -5
Yes, well...Invisibles only gets FURTHER out there as it goes on, so yeah, if you didn't like Volume 1...
oh, and Brubaker's Cap? > Batman.
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