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Post by Metallo on Mar 9, 2016 13:11:40 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 10, 2016 16:46:19 GMT -5
I saw that cover, awesome. I agree it would have been nice to have a photographer shoot them for real (since they'd both be in costume on the set anyhow)- the cover is still better than nothing. On another note, I read it was likely for Season 2 for Supergirl, to which I can only shout crazily: "LEGIONNNN!!!"
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Post by Metallo on Mar 10, 2016 18:49:22 GMT -5
I think it's been officially picked up. Good for them. I hope they get more freedom next season and not less. Hard to tell what the expanding film universe will mean for the tv universe.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 11, 2016 1:13:45 GMT -5
WB might be sitting back and seeing what's happening with Marvel's sortof- separation (it seems) of the tv and film departments.
Already, there are two actors playing General Ross.... and I wonder if being tied to tv continuity is what was agitating Kevin Feige and his (former) boss that he had to answer to.
I doubt the movies would giantly go against the tv dept deliberately, but I could see getting frustrated about having to be creatively restricted to too many masters at once...
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Post by Metallo on Mar 11, 2016 9:13:44 GMT -5
Who is the other actor playing general Ross right now? As far as I know its just William Hurt in The Incredible Hulk and Civil War. DC tv is just as restricted as Marvel tv just in a different way. The films of DC and Marvel take priority over the shows so they have far more freedom to do what they want.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 14, 2016 22:45:13 GMT -5
Unless memory is off (not immpossible), Agents of Shield I believe had Adrian Passar (of Heroes fame) playing General Ross in Season 2....
Part of me enjoys/enjoyed (I'm not sure it's true anymore) that they have the tv and movie Marvel continuity combined- but, on the other hand- it's hard to know (without being part of the behind the scenes) how much got undermined because of it.
Even within the MCU, I am a little bummed that Hawkeye didn't get a part in Captain America 2 because of Avengers 2.... and that Hank Pym didn't become the creator of Ultron because of Ant-man.
Still--- given how much gold has been created so far in the MCU, I know I'm being greedy and nitpicky.... but then again, maybe it's because I'd be suprised if I see another successful movie version of the MCU overall in my lifetime. (Kevin Feige has access to enough characters to do 50 Marvel phases or more I would think....)
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Post by Metallo on Mar 14, 2016 23:12:44 GMT -5
Adrian Pasdar (also known as the voice of Iron Man in several animated projects...cool) was playing Ross's sometimes associate Glenn Talbot on AOS. It's the same role Josh Lucas played in Ang Lees Hulk film.
I really didn't mind Marvel studios changing Ultrons creator from Pym to Stark. For one thing it made sense. I'm a stickler for staying true to the books but when the film tv or animated adaptations come up with a better idea I don't mind. Pyms primary area of expertise always seemed to be physics while Stark was the expert in robotics and cybernetics. Whedon wasn't even the first one to do it. The Next Avengers animated film did. I've noticed they try out a lot of ideas (both brand new and from the ultimates comics) in their animated projects first. The civil war idea of War Machine being "killed" and Iron Man out for vengeance was used for flthe rise of the technovore Anime film a few years ago. It does suck that Pym lost something big like that though and we've pretty much skipped his prime years as a superhero.
I agree it's shame we haven't seen more of Hawkeye. I know there weren't many options but s cameo in iron man 3 or thor 2 would have been nice even if they didn't want to cram him into Cap 2.
I think the MCU will recast. It's unavoidable. But the continuity will go on as long as possible. We won't be seeing full on reboot in a few years. Maybe something like DOFP
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 17, 2016 12:54:01 GMT -5
Adrian Pasdar (also known as the voice of Iron Man in several animated projects...cool) was playing Ross's sometimes associate Glenn Talbot on AOS. It's the same role Josh Lucas played in Ang Lees Hulk film. I really didn't mind Marvel studios changing Ultrons creator from Pym to Stark. For one thing it made sense. I'm a stickler for staying true to the books but when the film tv or animated adaptations come up with a better idea I don't mind. Pyms primary area of expertise always seemed to be physics while Stark was the expert in robotics and cybernetics. Whedon wasn't even the first one to do it. The Next Avengers animated film did. I've noticed they try out a lot of ideas (both brand new and from the ultimates comics) in their animated projects first. The civil war idea of War Machine being "killed" and Iron Man out for vengeance was used for flthe rise of the technovore Anime film a few years ago. It does suck that Pym lost something big like that though and we've pretty much skipped his prime years as a superhero. I agree it's shame we haven't seen more of Hawkeye. I know there weren't many options but s cameo in iron man 3 or thor 2 would have been nice even if they didn't want to cram him into Cap 2. I think the MCU will recast. It's unavoidable. But the continuity will go on as long as possible. We won't be seeing full on reboot in a few years. Maybe something like DOFP That's a great idea and opporunity if Infinity Wars has some sort of cosmic time reboot.... but even so, it's going to be weird. With so many characters and Marvel's hit rate, Marvel seems like it can afford to move onto different characters (ie Winter Soldier taking over for Captain America) rather than flat out recasts (who the heck can you get for Thor other than Helmsworth?).... again, will be interesting to see. About Hawkeye: Ugh... once they turned him into a 'family guy' in Avengers II, my jaw hit the ground. What was most interesting to me was that Hawkeye was the main superhero f* up in Marvel comics, next to the Swordsman. Unless they have something better planned for him, I feel like the whole character was a bit botched once Avengers II came out.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 17, 2016 15:36:14 GMT -5
I was a little disappointed we won't get to see a relashionship between Renners Hawkeye and Adrianne Palacki's Bobbi "Mockingbird" Morse. Maybe if they could get Renner to guest star on Agents of Shield or Marvels Most Wanted they could hint at a past relashionship before Barton got married.
As for Thor if they wanted to make it easier or more acceptable I suppose they could recast using a modified version of Eric Masterson and use that version of Thor. They could also just go right into calling him Thunderstrike if they want to separate him from Thor a bit. I'd just bind Thors soul to Masterson and use a new actor. Its still Thor but it would explain why he looks different.
But then again it's not like he MCU hasn't done a straight out recast. We've got a different Rhodes and Banner than what we started with. Difference is Howard and Norton didn't stick around long enough to create a strong enough association/identification with the character so it made recasting easier. They'd probably have a tougher time recasting Cheadle and Ruffalo now.
They could also use some combo of a heroes reborn/return type of situation and the power of infinity gauntlet to reshape the reality of the MCU. It could also give them a way to bring the X-men into the MCU while keeping some of their current continuity of creating all new versions. That's the beauty of having something like the infinity gauntlet. It gives them an in universe explanation to do almost anything that normally wouldn't be possible.
Imagine a new reality where Jackmans Logan fought alongside Evans Cap during WWII or Fassbenders Magneto welcoming his daughter The Scarlet Witch into his Brotherhood of Mutants. What about an all out brawl between the Hulk and the Juggernaut? Tony Stark vs Victor Von Doom in a fourth Iron Man movie. Armor vs armor. It's all possible. Fox should think about how much money they are leaving on the table.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 17, 2016 23:37:39 GMT -5
Great ideas. I think I'd be more excited if Singer's Xmen and the MCU could somehow merge.
It was interesting (but sad) to hear that Singer's X-men and the Fantastic Four were leading to a shared universe--- but then again, I wasn't at all thrilled with the new FF movie, so I would rather have more standalone Singer X-men movies than a Singer X-men movie that has to share screentime with a poorly made adaptation.
Though.... with the world looking like it's going to be decimated in Xmen Apocalypse, I don't know how you'd rationalize the Avengers not being present and/or involved somehow in that movie's big battle and explain that one away.... (*though I'm assuming I know basically how the movie will play out a bit before even seeing it)
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Post by Metallo on Mar 21, 2016 10:14:43 GMT -5
It's funny how Fox went back and forth and then got cold feet on a shared universe with the Xmen when they realized how crap Fantfourstic was before release. Even singer would change his mind. You had Mark Millar saying one thing and Simon Kinberg saying another.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 23, 2016 11:55:17 GMT -5
Aside: I'm kind of divided on Mark Millar's contributions to Marvel and him being a consultant for FOx on Marvel movies.
On one hand, I read that Millar's "Ultimate" comics helped a lot of contributors to the MCU solve how they wanted to make Marvel characters more credible-
On the other hand, I'm not crazy about all of Millar's updates.
So... I dunno, though I would be interested in reading Millar's rumored '9 movie outline' for a Superman franchise, where the last image is an old Superman, millions of years in the future, before the sun dies out. Kind of like a 'life and death' miniseries never attempted before (to my knowledge) in comics/movies.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 23, 2016 14:16:19 GMT -5
He's always been overrated to me. All talk and self promotion. Sometimes the movies based on his comics turn out better than his comics. I think the kickass movie improved on the comics in some ways.
I wouldn't mind seeing a movie based on The Authority though. THATS what Snyder should be directing. It's right up his alley.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 24, 2016 10:41:17 GMT -5
I've heard a lot of people really annoyed by his self-promotion, but from having a number of artist friends who crumble with public rejection- I can get having to pump up one's ego when putting stuff out there, so it doesn't bother me when I see that, and I hear Millar does it a lot.
I've enjoyed some of Millar's stuff, but can't say I've read enough to have a solid opinion of his works overall.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 24, 2016 11:22:38 GMT -5
He seems like a nice guy otherwise. It's just that he can't help but brag and exaggerate too much.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 24, 2016 13:51:57 GMT -5
Yeah, when it comes to putting stuff out there, as long as they're not putting other people down- creators who do the salesman pitch for their work doesn't bug me so much.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 29, 2016 7:27:07 GMT -5
darn that was great. A lot more entertaining than certain other superhero crossovers of late. It felt rushed and should have been a two parter but the great parts more than made up for it. Gustin and Benoist have great chemistry and it was cool to see Flash interact with Winn Jimmy and Cat. The supervillian team up was also pretty good. Silver Banshee and Livewire made for a good duo. I hope we are seeing the start of a Supergirl revenge squad. Silver Banshee actually looked pretty good too. Didn't think they could pull it off on tv but it works.
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Post by doomsday1 on Mar 29, 2016 10:02:20 GMT -5
Supergirl is a pretty weak show in my opinion. Find myself cringing regularly, I still enjoy the Flash though this season is a regression from the first season.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 29, 2016 10:54:08 GMT -5
The interaction between Flash and Supergirl was great, the superhero fight I thought was a bit rushed.... I agree a two parter would have given it room to breathe.
Supergirl (like Arrow) is a show I enjoy for parts. But, some of those parts are great.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 29, 2016 13:37:24 GMT -5
A lot of arrows problems began when Warmer bros force them to make major changes to the last season. It's been really mixed this season.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 29, 2016 16:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 29, 2016 23:49:53 GMT -5
Here's to hoping the bump in ratings saves the show....
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Post by Metallo on Mar 30, 2016 7:29:28 GMT -5
Me too. I want to see Supergirl jump to the Arrowverse earth next season...and she takes he team with her. I've got to see Winn and Cisco nerd out together! I still can't believe they've got me loving VIBE fer chrissake! Never ever thought I'd say that. ever.
Do aliens exist on the Arrowverse? Theyve hinted at other costumes heroes besides Superman Supergirl and the Manhunter on their earth.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 30, 2016 8:49:55 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Mar 30, 2016 16:10:29 GMT -5
These images are great! Thanks for sharing, Metallo!
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