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Post by atp on Feb 10, 2010 13:54:49 GMT -5
Give me Superman versus Brainiac and his army of Terminator-like kryptonian technology robots. In space. Please. Try. |
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Post by botz1 on Feb 10, 2010 14:02:02 GMT -5
. In my opinion, Superman is at least two to three years away from greenlight, but stranger things have happened. . Dude 2 or 3 years? The project is pretty much greenlit allready.. And yes with WB, stranger things do happen.. |
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Post by botz1 on Feb 10, 2010 14:10:54 GMT -5
Warner Brothers Rumored To ‘Reboot’ Superman, Favreau Part Of The Project Posted on 10 February 2010 Delivered by FeedBurner Superman Reboot — It has been reported that Warner Bros are going in for Superman Reboot. Yes, and who else is taking the lead towards Superman reboot is truly the news of this morning Christopher Nolan. Till now it is really unclear what would be role of Christopher Nolan in Superman reboot, would he be writing or directing what is clearly evident that he is going to be part of Superman Reboot. It is also reported that Favreau would also be part of this project. Favreau+Nolan= Blockbuster www.twominutenews.com/2010/entertainment/warner-brothers-rumored-to-reboot-superman-favreau-part-of-the-project-3626.html |
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Post by sandman1347 on Feb 10, 2010 14:24:37 GMT -5
I'm so sick of hearing Superman fans say, "don't change anything". Why do you think the franchise has become so stale? We need to embrace creativity and vision. If you want to watch the same Superman you saw as a kid, watch the DVDs of the Reeves films or dig up some old comic books. Stop saddling the writers and directors with your unreasonable demand to relive your childhood.
The character has to evolve somewhat. I'm not saying they should turn him into Batman so please don't write that in response but they must come up with something NEW. Enough homages and nostalgia. Enough uninspired copycat writing. Let's try for something unique and interesting.
My ideas are that the new trilogy should have super-powered villains in all 3 movies. The fact that Superman never threw a single punch in SR is one of the biggest disappointments.
Secondly, Lex Luthor should be the CEO that he is in the more modern stories, not some common ex-convict. An evil genius billionaire makes a much more formidable adversary than a common thug.
Finally, at some point in the trilogy (not with the first movie) have him fight Doomsday! This was the most successful story arc in the history of comic books and yet it hasn't been used in a live action movie yet. Common sense people!
I'd like to see Doomsday, maybe Zod (as a means to tie Superman to his Kryptonian heritage), possibly Mongul or Metallo and Braniac. High powered enemies for a high powered hero. Lex could act as a partner for many of these villains (with his own motives of course). Lets do it!
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Post by belloq on Feb 10, 2010 14:41:58 GMT -5
Agree that its high time to overhaul Lex, but they don't need to change a thing about Superman. D'ya want them to turn him into Batman or something?
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Post by Paul (ral) on Feb 10, 2010 14:52:34 GMT -5
They should plan out a trilogy as one long story line - complete with cliff hangers - just like S:TM and S2 were supposed to be.
I'm sick of this "lets do one and see how it goes" crap.
They know what works. They should know what doesn't. Just go make them!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2010 15:23:03 GMT -5
Hey, I'd be all for a brand new everything Superman movie just to see how it is, obviously we (most of us) would prefer the theme to remain, but if it's a new one, okay. I'll still see it and hopefully like it.
Superman themes aren't THAT difficult to come by. Unless I'm one of the few that actually really do like the Lois and Clark and Animated Series themes. The movie theme for me is the absolute best theme for any character ever (Bond is a close second) but I'd live with a new one if it was good enough.
The Batman Begins music, I didn't dig until I saw the Dark Knight. Same with Spiderman. I didn't care for the score, but when Spiderman II began, I actually was happy to hear it again.
I just hope the first time we'd hear a new Superman theme, it'd be immediately recognizable as a legitimate Superman theme, not needing time to seep in.
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Post by The Phantom Menace on Feb 10, 2010 15:42:44 GMT -5
Superman themes aren't THAT difficult to come by. Unless I'm one of the few that actually really do like the Lois and Clark and Animated Series themes. I'm with you. The themes for those shows are both very good. |
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Feb 10, 2010 16:02:16 GMT -5
You ask me, even the Superboy TV theme and music are great. That shit'd be epic if composed and not synth.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Feb 10, 2010 16:11:56 GMT -5
well.... it could be worse.
if WB wants a czar for the DC films then it couyld be worse than nolan. when he got into batman he didnt know much about the character, but brought in knowledgeable people and put it together ina serious fashion so, i DON'T believe he will make superman into a super-dark-knight. i do beleive he will try to handle the character as appropriately as he can. in fact, on the BB dvd he mentioned donner's superman and verisimilitude as a model to follow. thats irony for you.
my HOPE is that geoff johns is the writer. johns has done films, friends with donner, has a good take on DCU. maverick wants paul dini, and i would LOVE it, but it's probably too good to be realistic.
i have to agree, that nolan will want to purge everything from the donnerverse/singerverse. its like throwing the baby out with the bathwater- but it's probably what he'll do, UNLESS he likes routh or WB insists on routh. but say goodbye to the john barry crystals and so forth.
the case for john williams theme:
in my opinion, the william's theme is transcendantly superman. it is more than the theme to a particular movie, or series- it IS superman. as much as the red boots. anywhere in the world you hear that music people KNOW. the average joe hears that and does NOT think "thats from a good donner fantasy film that had subpar sequels with an aesthetically pleasing but commercially underperforming quasi-sequel in 2006".
no, they think : "superman". heck even the ruby spears cartoon used an adaptation of it for a series based on the post-byrne.
i'm not saying that the ottman approach of using williams all through it should be used- but as a closing theme, or dramatic "moment" it is CLASSIC.
the model i would appeal to is the abrams trek, which had a completely original score, but closed with a huge rendering of the original. thats what i'd like to have.
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Post by atp on Feb 10, 2010 16:34:45 GMT -5
the case for john williams theme: in my opinion, the william's theme is transcendantly superman. it is more than the theme to a particular movie, or series- it IS superman. as much as the red boots. anywhere in the world you hear that music people KNOW. the average joe hears that and does NOT think " thats from a good donner fantasy film that had subpar sequels with an aesthetically pleasing but commercially underperforming quasi-sequel in 2006". no, they think : "superman". heck even the ruby spears cartoon used an adaptation of it for a series based on the post-byrne. i'm not saying that the ottman approach of using williams all through it should be used- but as a closing theme, or dramatic "moment" it is CLASSIC. the model i would appeal to is the abrams trek, which had a completely original score, but closed with a huge rendering of the original. thats what i'd like to have. The model that the James Bond movies use is the best. Each film has its own unique soundtrack, but you still know that they're Bond films, and they still keep the main theme. The Living Daylights was a kind of reboot, Casino Royale even more so. But neither of them abandoned the music. |
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 10, 2010 17:01:51 GMT -5
The model that the James Bond movies use is the best. Each film has its own unique soundtrack, but you still know that they're Bond films, and they still keep the main theme. The Living Daylights was a kind of reboot, Casino Royale even more so. But neither of them abandoned the music. SR sort of did that. Unlike Bond, the main Superman theme is also part of the main credits. Only once did it deviate from that, so we get the Superman theme (sadly truncated though) during the opening and closing credits. Throughout the film, it's referenced several times, but usually within a much larger original musical piece. Ottman kept the main theme and Krypton theme, but made a new Luthor theme and personal theme. Speaking of Bond, I miss the 007 Theme (not to be confused with the James Bond theme). It hasn't been used since Moonraker. |
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Post by Paul (ral) on Feb 10, 2010 17:10:21 GMT -5
The theme has to stay. It is the only thing I could not forgive a new movie for not having.
I know alot of people like SR's score (and I will admit it has it's moments) but it deviated to far structurely from what Williams did to the point when the Williams' motifs were shoehorned or bolted on they stood-out (showing Ottiman's work up).
Most Bond scores do not make this mistake. They retain the essence of Norman / Barry.
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 10, 2010 17:12:33 GMT -5
I'll be very disappointed when David Arnold moves away from Bond. He's been a perfect composer to the series since 1997.
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Post by botz1 on Feb 10, 2010 19:47:02 GMT -5
Each film has its own unique soundtrack, but you still know that Ottman kept the main theme and Krypton theme, but made a new Luthor theme and personal theme. . That Luthor theme was the worst piece of music i've ever heard, i hated that the most out of anything in the movie, i actually mute the sound when i watch SR beacuse of it.... |
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Post by belloq on Feb 10, 2010 19:59:06 GMT -5
yeah, me too. whenever that music comes on i actually take the dvd out of the player, shit on it, and then burn it before taking it to hallowed ground and burying it. i must've bought about 20 copies of SR over the last couple of years and haven't made it all the way through yet.
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Post by Bobby M on Feb 10, 2010 20:04:14 GMT -5
I'd like them to keep the theme and Routh, while also making the suit more traditional and brightening the look of the film up. That aside, they can do whatever the heck they want, as far as I'm concerned. I also agree with ral that a trilogy that encompasses a big story arc would be good.
But even if they do none of that, I'll be interested at the very least. Disappointed that everything has been jettisoned, but interested. It'd be a fascinatingly surreal experience to watch a Superman movie that keeps nothing from the previous five films, not even the theme.
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Post by atp on Feb 10, 2010 20:23:06 GMT -5
Do you think now might be a good time to kick off a campaign asking Mr Nolan to please...
Aaaah never mind.
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Post by Bobby M on Feb 10, 2010 20:25:35 GMT -5
I hope and I'll love to see the Warner greenlight the Tim Burton adaptation starring Nic cage with a giant spider in the third act.
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Post by MerM on Feb 10, 2010 21:34:51 GMT -5
Do you think now might be a good time to kick off a campaign asking Mr Nolan to please... Aaaah never mind. Thanks ;D |
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Post by MAVERICK on Feb 10, 2010 23:03:30 GMT -5
Warner Brothers Rumored To ‘Reboot’ Superman, Favreau Part Of The Project Posted on 10 February 2010 Delivered by FeedBurner Superman Reboot — It has been reported that Warner Bros are going in for Superman Reboot. Yes, and who else is taking the lead towards Superman reboot is truly the news of this morning Christopher Nolan. Till now it is really unclear what would be role of Christopher Nolan in Superman reboot, would he be writing or directing what is clearly evident that he is going to be part of Superman Reboot. It is also reported that Favreau would also be part of this project. Favreau+Nolan= Blockbuster www.twominutenews.com/2010/entertainment/warner-brothers-rumored-to-reboot-superman-favreau-part-of-the-project-3626.htmlUm, Im taking that this was translated from another language? & Poorly? Agree that its high time to overhaul Lex, but they don't need to change a thing about Superman. D'ya want them to turn him into Batman or something? That Luthor theme was the worst piece of music i've ever heard, i hated that the most out of anything in the movie, i actually mute the sound when i watch SR beacuse of it.... yeah, me too. whenever that music comes on i actually take the dvd out of the player, shit on it, and then burn it before taking it to hallowed ground and burying it. i must've bought about 20 copies of SR over the last couple of years and haven't made it all the way through yet. Youre a dangerous man Belloq  The new Lex theme was the BEST thing about the SR soundtrack. Ive seldom heard a theme fit a character so well & at least it got rid of the Retard theme he had in STM.  |
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 10, 2010 23:09:48 GMT -5
Well, it was Otis' theme. I still wonder why it was applied to Lex throughout the series.
March of the Villains? Otis was too dumb to be a villain.
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Post by MAVERICK on Feb 10, 2010 23:17:20 GMT -5
Well, it was Otis' theme. I still wonder why it was applied to Lex throughout the series. Hey, it played everytime Lex was on Screen. It was his Theme. And it sucks. Ottman's Lex theme is Brilliant. |
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Post by Bobby M on Feb 11, 2010 0:16:29 GMT -5
Hey............I like that theme. Dum-dum-da-dum. Dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum. But then again, as we have established, I'm not a very good Superman fan. So what do I know.
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Post by MerM on Feb 11, 2010 0:17:06 GMT -5
Well, it was Otis' theme. I still wonder why it was applied to Lex throughout the series. Hey, it played everytime Lex was on Screen. It was his Theme. And it sucks. Ottman's Lex theme is Brilliant. I like March of the Villains, but Luthor's theme in SR fits him far better IMO. |
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