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Post by MAVERICK on Feb 26, 2010 13:12:53 GMT -5
Yup, the more I think about it, Fox is totally my second choice for Supes.
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Post by ye5man on Feb 26, 2010 13:41:57 GMT -5
That guy looks like a MAN.
Hopefully WB will move away from young actors in their mid 20s.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2010 14:50:00 GMT -5
Huh.
Jack as Lost?
Goodness....that COULD fucking work. Shit.
Realistically, it's gonna have new everything, score, actors, etc, I'm basically at this point gonna be surprised if Routh DOES come back. I don't even care anymore, it'd be nice to just get A Superman movie at this point, regardless of cast and crew.
I certainly lose no sleep over a reboot. Whatevs. Like Val, I'm a Superman fan. Not just a Superman movie fan.
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Post by Paul (ral) on Feb 26, 2010 14:57:01 GMT -5
I would totally buy him as Superman - that is what they call inspired casting...excellent choice Mav.
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Post by supes78 on Feb 26, 2010 15:08:34 GMT -5
I don't know why some people equate the failure of SR to the need to distance the Superman franchise from the Donnerverse. Smallville has brought in a ton of Donnerverse elements and is constantly a high ranked show. The comic books have also incorporated more and more Donner material and the recent Secret Origins reboot is pretty much an homage to the Donner film.
SR wasn't well received because of where Singer chose to take the foundations that Donner established. And we've all suitably nitpicked those things to death. I can see WB keeping certain Donner elements like the Williams theme or the frozen depiction of Krypton, or the crystals while still going in a new direction. Ultimately, it will depend on what WB feels a mainstream audience wants from a Superman franchise and not what the small hardcore fanbase wants. This is why Marvel's Hulk reboot went back and embraced the Bixby TV series instead of ignoring it like Ang Lee's film. They knew that version of the Hulk is still prevalent in people's minds so they successfully worked elements of it into a new mythology, just like Smallville has done with the Donnerverse, just like the Superman comics have done, and quite possibly a new Superman movie franchise.
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Post by botz1 on Feb 26, 2010 15:16:36 GMT -5
curious, are we to believe that superman will barely be able to pick up a car if goyer writes the script the way John Byrne wrote the character in the 1980s???
Superman needs to keep his god like powers....moving moons blowing out stars, etc
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Post by botz1 on Feb 26, 2010 15:23:58 GMT -5
I can see WB keeping certain Donner elements like the Williams theme or the frozen depiction of Krypton, or the crystals while still going in a new direction. Yes, superman regardless of reboot or whatever needs those elements.....
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Post by Jimbo on Feb 26, 2010 15:34:13 GMT -5
Superman needs to keep his god like powers.... moving moonsNO! No more moving moons!
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Post by botz1 on Feb 26, 2010 15:38:12 GMT -5
Superman needs to keep his god like powers.... moving moonsNO! No more moving moons! No? Really? why not? superman should have no limits under the a yellow sun, he is a god on earth... superman should be able to do extraordinary things, not just pick up cars and fly.
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Post by Legsy on Feb 26, 2010 15:40:13 GMT -5
If the movie is going to be realistic, then Superman should not have the power to move the moon. Can you imagine the carnage that would take place on Earth if he did? He'd kill everyone on the planet. Not very Superman like.
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Post by botz1 on Feb 26, 2010 15:50:59 GMT -5
If the movie is going to be realistic, then Superman should not have the power to move the moon. Can you imagine the carnage that would take place on Earth if he did? He'd kill everyone on the planet. Not very Superman like. lol lol i dont want them writing him move the moon, hahahahaha. I just him to be powerfull like that...hahahahaha .IMO him not having power like that is not very superman like.. Comic book movies are not realistic.. was is realistic when the hulk and abomination were fighting in the streets for like 10 mins and people were still running around on front of them? i loved that film but when i saw that i could not stop laughing. would'nt you have been hiding in a store or car or something..makes sense right?
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Post by Legsy on Feb 26, 2010 16:03:31 GMT -5
Comic book movies are not realistic.. Batman Begins and TDK were very realistic.
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Post by botz1 on Feb 26, 2010 16:06:59 GMT -5
Comic book movies are not realistic.. Batman Begins and TDK were very realistic. well for the most part but you can nit pick and finds things not realistic in those movies...anyway hes a human being, there is no superpower element in there
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 26, 2010 16:09:59 GMT -5
I don't know why some people equate the failure of SR to the need to distance the Superman franchise from the Donnerverse. Smallville has brought in a ton of Donnerverse elements and is constantly a high ranked show. The comic books have also incorporated more and more Donner material and the recent Secret Origins reboot is pretty much an homage to the Donner film. SR wasn't well received because of where Singer chose to take the foundations that Donner established. And we've all suitably nitpicked those things to death. I can see WB keeping certain Donner elements like the Williams theme or the frozen depiction of Krypton, or the crystals while still going in a new direction. Ultimately, it will depend on what WB feels a mainstream audience wants from a Superman franchise and not what the small hardcore fanbase wants. This is why Marvel's Hulk reboot went back and embraced the Bixby TV series instead of ignoring it like Ang Lee's film. They knew that version of the Hulk is still prevalent in people's minds so they successfully worked elements of it into a new mythology, just like Smallville has done with the Donnerverse, just like the Superman comics have done, and quite possibly a new Superman movie franchise. The Incredible Hulk didn't perform any better than the previus Hulk movie as far as I remember..... so a successful reboot was not. It seemed it made more hardcore fans happy, but the mainstream didn't care about it enough. And nobody cares about Smallville anymore. Seriously. I mean, if you compare it to Hit shows like Lost, Buffy, House, etc; Smallville comes off very, very short. It's fanbase is tiny, and that's why they'll never bring it to the big screen. Only like 2.5 million watch in the country.
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Post by Legsy on Feb 26, 2010 16:11:01 GMT -5
True. Theoretically speaking, a person born under a red sun would have no superpowers if the were to be under a yellow sun.
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Post by ye5man on Feb 26, 2010 19:24:26 GMT -5
Is it my imagination or does Gazer dismiss anything non-Routh?
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Post by stargazer01 on Feb 26, 2010 19:49:12 GMT -5
Is it my imagination or does Gazer dismiss anything non-Routh? It's definitely your wild imagination. ;D
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Post by Krypton Refugee on Feb 26, 2010 19:53:11 GMT -5
If I couldn't have Brandon, you know what I would really prefer? A Kingdom Come movie with THIS guy as Superman: Aside from the Machete, he looks SO fucking Superman right here: I think Fox could TOTALLY pull off the attitude that Superman has in Kingdom Come. Like in the scene where he tells Diana he has no interest in helping anymore. I don't know about Fox but Lilly NEEDS to be Lois. I assume that would elimate Fox by default.
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Post by MAVERICK on Feb 26, 2010 20:01:52 GMT -5
Lilly sucks & has no screen presence whatsoever. Her episodes on Lost are considered the worst by most fans.
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Post by Krypton Refugee on Feb 26, 2010 20:21:43 GMT -5
Lilly sucks & has no screen presence whatsoever. Her episodes on Lost are considered the worst by most fans. I lova ya Mav, but we're going to have to disagree here. LOL
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Post by supes78 on Feb 26, 2010 20:39:08 GMT -5
The Incredible Hulk didn't perform any better than the previus Hulk movie as far as I remember..... so a successful reboot was not. It seemed it made more hardcore fans happy, but the mainstream didn't care about it enough. And nobody cares about Smallville anymore. Seriously. I mean, if you compare it to Hit shows like Lost, Buffy, House, etc; Smallville comes off very, very short. It's fanbase is tiny, and that's why they'll never bring it to the big screen. Only like 2.5 million watch in the country. I think you missed the point of my original post. Both Hulk films did very good box office despite what people may think but Ang Lee's version was largely panned by audiences. The reboot didn't bring in much more money in theaters but that was expected given bad impression the first film left with audiences. But the reboot was so much better received and it did huge DVD sales as a result, putting it in a much better starting point for sequels. Batman Begins is the exact same way. It didn't do much better than SR in theaters but it was so widely liked and did huge DVD sales that a sequel was inevitable and we all know how that turned out. Problem is, even though SR did respectable B.O. the reaction to it was mixed at best so a reboot was probably the most viable solution, even if it doesn't do initial box office greater than SR. I'm not a fan of Smallville either but 10 years on the air is hardly something to put into the "nobody cares about it" category. heck, I think it's safe to say that it's been the most successful Superman screen adaption WB's ever had. And I never suggested bringing it to the big screen, only that it is able to successfully integrate elements from the Donner film and the comics to form a new mythology. As others have noted, you're clearly not onboard with anything that doesn't have Routh attached to it, even though that has little bearing on the success of a reboot.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Feb 26, 2010 21:04:14 GMT -5
I'm kind of getting sick of the Reeve interpretation and the constant comparisons whenever there's a new version of Superman. I've got Reeve in four Superman movies. I'm ready for a different approach. The actor can be Superman without having Christopher damn Reeve always brandied about. Otherwise, this new attempt will fall on the uninterested general masses, be picked apart by the obsessives and continue to tire a franchise. There was Superman before there was Reeve. fair enough- cant say you're wrong... Bama, you're right. The fact remains that of those 4 Reeve movies, only one of 'em is really worth a damn. Is it upsetting that the franchise never had a consistent "Star Wars" (non-prequel) vision carrying them throughout? Of course. Is it even more upsetting that we didn't get 5 or 6 or 7 movies with Reeve as Superman between 1978-1991? Of course. But it's time to move on. The same people who were screaming for a continuation of the Donnerverse before SR got released are the same ones panning it now for being too much like the Donnerverse. The same ones who complained about how the previous script treatments were being made to sell toys then complained of the lack of a serious baddie and action in SR. Be careful what you wish for. 'cuz guess what, Superman Cinema fans? WE GOT IT. I would STRONGLY PREFER Brandon Routh to return as Superman. I think the Williams music could stay. But if it takes a CLEAN BREAK to get a proper new franchise of Superman movies off the ground, then so be it. Bring it on. I am a SUPERMAN fan. agreed. Sure there are plenty of big muscular guys with a square jaw out there, but they lack the magic, the presence. At least I haven't seen it so far in all of those guys that fans keep mentioning for the role. For instance, there is this guys that some fans seem to like for the role, his name is Daniel Cudmore. He's very, very tall, strong, etc; but I just dont' see Superman on him. To me he looks dumb and sort of like a caveman. lol. sorry, just don't see it. It's like an empty sheck. Here is a pic, thats about the worst thing i have ever seen. no way that knuckle-dragger can be superman. -------------------------------------------------------------- jack sheppard as superman...... my first reaction was " wtf? mavericks lost it ! ( no pun ) "..... buuuuuuutttt i dunnnoooo..... maybe. he's an a-lister these days and that all WB will give 2 shits about. maybe...
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Post by Jack Tripper on Feb 27, 2010 0:16:43 GMT -5
i don't see any superman in him at all.
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Post by Conor on Feb 27, 2010 3:38:07 GMT -5
www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=63700Well??? IESB has posted some interesting rumors about DC Entertainment's upcoming slate. The site says it's all still unconfirmed, but these items could potentially be part of the announcements that the studio is expected to make soon.
Yesterday, the site reported that Greg Berlanti, co-producer and co-writer of Martin Campbell's Green Lantern, is the frontrunner to direct Warner Bros.' The Flash.
Earlier this week, it was reported that David Goyer will be writing the new Superman movie, The Man of Steel. What we didn't catch then is that Jonah Nolan, who together with Goyer is writing the script for Christopher Nolan's next Batman movie, is also on board to co-write the Superman film. Of course, this follows the news from earlier this month that Chris Nolan will play a "godfather" role in getting The Man of Steel going.
Which brings us to the really interesting parts. IESB is saying that Chris Nolan is mentoring the movie because his brother Jonah Nolan may make his directorial debut on The Man of Steel.
Adding to that, the site says that there's a possibility that Chris Nolan will direct the Justice League movie after The Man of Steel and next Batman movie are released.
True or not, we think we'll be hearing official word soon.
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Post by Phil on Feb 27, 2010 5:28:18 GMT -5
www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=63700Well??? IESB has posted some interesting rumors about DC Entertainment's upcoming slate. The site says it's all still unconfirmed, but these items could potentially be part of the announcements that the studio is expected to make soon.
Yesterday, the site reported that Greg Berlanti, co-producer and co-writer of Martin Campbell's Green Lantern, is the frontrunner to direct Warner Bros.' The Flash.
Earlier this week, it was reported that David Goyer will be writing the new Superman movie, The Man of Steel. What we didn't catch then is that Jonah Nolan, who together with Goyer is writing the script for Christopher Nolan's next Batman movie, is also on board to co-write the Superman film. Of course, this follows the news from earlier this month that Chris Nolan will play a "godfather" role in getting The Man of Steel going.
Which brings us to the really interesting parts. IESB is saying that Chris Nolan is mentoring the movie because his brother Jonah Nolan may make his directorial debut on The Man of Steel.
Adding to that, the site says that there's a possibility that Chris Nolan will direct the Justice League movie after The Man of Steel and next Batman movie are released.
True or not, we think we'll be hearing official word soon. Terrific news. Now make it...
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