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Post by Kirok on Oct 4, 2008 23:01:25 GMT -5
i was unaware of a scne of lex recovering the crystals..THAT would be useful. Yeah, it's on the DVD. Lex goes to the main room in the yacht to retrieve the crystals, and find his thug killed by the piano. As for the flashback, if the film's structure was more Batman Begins-esque (or Nolan-esque) it'd be more appropriate, but it's not, and it just feels out of place IMO. |
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 6, 2008 18:52:15 GMT -5
[ A wha?  *eye twitch* I don't think I want to look this up... I've been waiting forever and a day for Fanboys to finally come out. I think now it could be considered one of the signs of the Apocalypse. Hey, is this the movie with William Shatner? And about Star Wars fanboys or something? I also wanna see it. Any idea when is it coming out? And IMO, Sam Huntington ruled as Jimmy. Loved his chemistry with Brandon. |
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Post by thepariah on Oct 6, 2008 19:36:10 GMT -5
And IMO, Sam Huntington ruled as Jimmy. Loved his chemistry with Brandon. Oh no, you did not just say that. ;D  |
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 6, 2008 19:39:11 GMT -5
;D LOL!
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Post by Jimbo on Oct 6, 2008 19:41:01 GMT -5
Sure it could get worse. A random plane could crash onto a very important baseball game. (You had $20 bet on those guys) Edit: Lois isn't married |
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Post by thepariah on Oct 6, 2008 20:34:28 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to fix it myself.  |
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Post by EnriqueH on Oct 9, 2008 8:51:47 GMT -5
I loved SR when I saw it in theaters. I paid to see it three times, I think.
I loved Brandon Routh and how he channeled Reeve without coming off as imitation. So don't take this as a dig at Routh, but rather as a curiosity of mine. Maybe I need to rewatch the film, but I seem to remember that the performance felt a little...restrained...slightly? As if Singer was afraid of his actor's inexperience and reeled him in slightly? Does it ever feel like Singer is hiding Routh's inexperience? Particularly during the rooftop/Lois sequence?
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Post by Legsy on Oct 9, 2008 11:54:56 GMT -5
I don't know if it was Singer or Routh himself. I know he's capable of more. I just hope we get to see it.
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Post by EvilSupes on Oct 9, 2008 13:28:23 GMT -5
Yep, Routh is controlled slightly by Singer. It's confirmed later in the smallville scenes at the farm in the video diary. There's a discussion between them about acting and so fourth, and Routh is complementing Singer in directing him on what he should do as Superman.
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Post by thepariah on Oct 9, 2008 14:00:58 GMT -5
Yep, Routh is controlled slightly by Singer. It's confirmed later in the smallville scenes at the farm in the video diary. There's a discussion between them about acting and so fourth, and Routh is complementing Singer in directing him on what he should do as Superman. Yeah, he was talking about how Bryan advised him to do things "smaller." Considering he came from Soap Opera Land, I don't mind that he did that. I do think his inexperience was hidden, because now that I've seen Brandon do a number of other little roles here and there, he's...not always that great ("Community" on Fear Itself was a serious stinkbomb). But--and there were aspects of Clark Kent/Superman that are naturally part of his own personality--he also did very well, so I'm not knocking him. A terrible actor is just a terrible actor, and he's not. He's just growing into his britches. I liked the more subtle approach to Clark. Chris's Clark was funny, but...wow, totally Office Space-level. ;D Brandon's Clark was less of a raging nerd and more of a slightly awkward wallflower. You wouldn't feel like keeping 50 feet between you and him at all times, but you'd easily ignore him. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2008 14:52:06 GMT -5
That's what Clark needs to be. Not noticeable.
I could definitely see Routh being restrained. But what little he had to do, he did extraordinarily well. I loved his Clark AND his Superman. And I didn't think they were Reeve ripoffs at all. He definitely put his own spin on it but barely. The next movie, we need to hear him and see him almost the entire movie, dammit. Make it all about SUPERMAN.
Unheard of, I know, to make a superhero movie about the actual superhero, but...ahhh...why not?
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Post by thepariah on Oct 9, 2008 15:01:00 GMT -5
That's what Clark needs to be. Not noticeable. I could definitely see Routh being restrained. But what little he had to do, he did extraordinarily well. I loved his Clark AND his Superman. And I didn't think they were Reeve ripoffs at all. He definitely put his own spin on it but barely. The next movie, we need to hear him and see him almost the entire movie, dammit. Make it all about SUPERMAN. Unheard of, I know, to make a superhero movie about the actual superhero, but...ahhh...why not? SR was like the appetizer dish. We're still waiting for the main course. |
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 9, 2008 15:16:10 GMT -5
[ I do think his inexperience was hidden, because now that I've seen Brandon do a number of other little roles here and there, he's...not always that great ("Community" on Fear Itself was a serious stinkbomb). But--and there were aspects of Clark Kent/Superman that are naturally part of his own personality--he also did very well, so I'm not knocking him. A terrible actor is just a terrible actor, and he's not. He's just growing into his britches. I liked the more subtle approach to Clark. Chris's Clark was funny, but...wow, totally Office Space-level. ;D Brandon's Clark was less of a raging nerd and more of a slightly awkward wallflower. You wouldn't feel like keeping 50 feet between you and him at all times, but you'd easily ignore him. I think Brandon is just a very natural Clark and Superman. He, like Chris Reeve, inhabits and embodies the character in a wonderful way, and that's so hard to find. Yeah, some others may have 'the look', but they just don't have "the extra ingredient" and "the 'magic'' of Superman like these two men do. Yeah, he is definitely not a great actor.....yet, but to me he was very good in SR overall, and even great in some scenes. And he had huge shoes to fill. I think Brandon definitely honoured and did justice to the character. Best Superman/Clark since Reeve.  And I really want to see more of it. Can you imagine him as Supes brawling it with Darkseid or another superbaddie?!! .... I think he has the potential to become a really good actor, and I so hope I get to see that, cuz I think he has a wonderful on screen presence (ok, he is gorgeous ;D), an amazing voice, and a really nice and down to earth personality in real life (it seems like it so far), and the world really needs more good role models like him, not the crappy ones like Britney Spears, Shia Leabouf (sp?) or Paris Hilton and so many others... Also, that Fear Itself episode in general was very mediocre and bland (like the series). And I blame it mainly on the director and the production team. |
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Post by Legsy on Oct 9, 2008 15:50:54 GMT -5
That's what Clark needs to be. Not noticeable. I could definitely see Routh being restrained. But what little he had to do, he did extraordinarily well. I loved his Clark AND his Superman. And I didn't think they were Reeve ripoffs at all. He definitely put his own spin on it but barely. The next movie, we need to hear him and see him almost the entire movie, dammit. Make it all about SUPERMAN. Unheard of, I know, to make a superhero movie about the actual superhero, but...ahhh...why not? SR was like the appetizer dish. We're still waiting for the main course. Aye. |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Oct 9, 2008 16:32:08 GMT -5
the brilliance of chris reeve is his decision to underplay superman and let the FX sell superman but to really make clark kent loveable.
routh did pretty much the same , the thingis- this is the hardest thing for anyone playing superman ,its a catch 22 - chris reev was ICONIC as superman but because he was so good at it he was typecast , so every other actor gets cmpared to reeve , and they have to walk that fine line between making it thier own AND doing it justice when compared to reeve.
i dont envy these guys ( except for maybe maybe being tall..)
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Post by EvilSupes on Oct 9, 2008 17:00:49 GMT -5
Also the really crappy CGI shots of Routh flying didn't help Routh. It made his performance look wooden and dull, even though it wasn't him but the CGI... I reckon if he was flying more himself (via wires like reeve) we would've got more screen time of him as Superman and also a far better performance - not that his was bad !!
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Oct 9, 2008 17:05:03 GMT -5
Also the really crappy CGI shots of Routh flying didn't help Routh. It made his performance look wooden and dull, even though it wasn't him but the CGI... I reckon if he was flying more himself (via wires like reeve) we would've got more screen time of him as Superman and also a far better performance - not that his was bad !! ..( ahem).... uh , i just wanna say... F-CK CGI superman. that is all. |
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Post by EvilSupes on Oct 9, 2008 17:07:09 GMT -5
I agree, we need to see more REAL superman rather than CGI Superman. Seeing is believing.
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Post by charl on Oct 9, 2008 21:28:04 GMT -5
Maybe I need to rewatch the film, but I seem to remember that the performance felt a little...restrained...slightly? As if Singer was afraid of his actor's inexperience and reeled him in slightly? Does it ever feel like Singer is hiding Routh's inexperience? i agree. you can see Reeve having to play emotionally-charged scenes in the first 3 movies, scenes that stretch his acting abilities. Whereas Routh's role doesnt need him to do so. It does seem Singer's trying to play it safe, therefore Routh's performance seems to come across muted. The said Reeve scenes are: STM - Seeing Lois had died, Reeve had to play an emotionally devastated Superman, cries, then charges up to the sky in a burst of anger welling-up inside him. (Tom tried to imitate this shout but it came across flat...in a Smallville season 4 episode where Clark found out Alicia had died) SII (Lester Cut) - in the fortress, Clark choking on his words having to admit he had failed, cries... "Fatherrrrrrr!!!!!" SIII - Reeve's junkyard scene shout before he split into EvilSupes & GoodClark. to me, Reeve's shouts in these scenes are the best shouts in cinema history that i've come across. too bad we didnt get to see how Routh would've fared. all we get is just this monstrous Hulk-like groan (which doesnt sound like his voice at all) when Lex stabbed kryptonite in his back.  |
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Post by thepariah on Oct 9, 2008 21:44:36 GMT -5
to me, Reeve's shouts in these scenes are the best shouts in cinema history that i've come across. too bad we didnt get to see how Routh would've fared. all we get is just this monstrous Hulk-like groan (which doesnt sound like his voice at all) when Lex stabbed kryptonite in his back. Pity they didn't use his scream when he finds out Lex raided the Fortress and took his preciouses. Rob Burnett was quite impressed by it. Alas, yet another thing left on the cutting room floor... |
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Post by Matt in the Hat on Oct 10, 2008 1:08:38 GMT -5
And I blame it mainly on the director and the production team. The Director was Mary Harron. Eat my nutsack for saying that. End Quote. |
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 10, 2008 1:25:26 GMT -5
And I blame it mainly on the director and the production team. The Director was Mary Harron. Eat my nutsack for saying that. End Quote. I knew that, and she did an awful job, imo. There was no suspense or enough tension. It was a very bland and predictable episode. |
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 10, 2008 1:29:18 GMT -5
I agree, we need to see more REAL superman rather than CGI Superman. Seeing is believing. Sure, I can agree with that. I wish we had seen more real Brandon as Supes during some flying scenes, and more dynamic flying. However, there are some things, especially with a hero as Super as Supes, that CGI Superman is definitely a must, no? There are some action sequences that are just impossible to recreate with a real person. |
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Post by Kirok on Oct 10, 2008 2:57:02 GMT -5
Pity they didn't use his scream when he finds out Lex raided the Fortress and took his preciouses. Rob Burnett was quite impressed by it. Alas, yet another thing left on the cutting room floor... That would have qualified for an emotional moment and I'd certainly like to see it, but my issue with such an event is that there's no payoff. Superman flies into the sky screaming in rage...and then what? I don't recall which scene was next, but odds are it wouldn't have flowed very well which is probably why it ended up being cut. |
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Post by thepariah on Oct 10, 2008 9:16:37 GMT -5
That would have qualified for an emotional moment and I'd certainly like to see it, but my issue with such an event is that there's no payoff. Superman flies into the sky screaming in rage...and then what? I don't recall which scene was next, but odds are it wouldn't have flowed very well which is probably why it ended up being cut. True. |
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*eye twitch* I don't think I want to look this up...
And I really want to see more of it. Can you imagine him as Supes brawling it with Darkseid or another superbaddie?!! ....
