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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 12, 2012 13:29:56 GMT -5
I don't mind the visual speedramps, slo-mo, etc.--- it's the story issues and the dramatic scenes that bug me with Snyder.
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 15, 2012 11:59:14 GMT -5
Guy Dyas (SR production designer) said the following about Bryan Singer, SR and the sequel that never was: From CGSociety(24 August, 2011): The duo worked together on two comic book movies which garnered polar opposite reactions from fans and the movie studios. "X-Men 2 [2003] was an opportunity for Bryan to expand on the characters that he had established in the first film," says Dyas as he explains his theory as to why there was a difference in opinion. "If you look at Superman Returns [2006], Bryan was doing exactly the same thing. He was laying down a foundation.
He was establishing characters, getting everyone to understand who the various people were, and I believe personally that if Bryan had gone on to direct and write Superman: Man of Steel [2013] he would have done exactly the same thing he did with X-Men 2." "What Steven told me was that he keeps a little black book," says Guy Hendrix Dyas while explaining about how he first came to the attention of Steven Spielberg. "Every time he sees something in a film that he likes, he takes out that little black book and writes [some] names down. My name was lucky enough to be one of the ones he wrote down after seeing Superman Returns." Dyas was hired to be the production designer for Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull (2008). Sources: www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/constructive_conceptsforums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=22955141#post22955141 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2012 13:14:21 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone else was written down.
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Post by atp on Apr 15, 2012 13:46:41 GMT -5
Guy Dyas (SR production designer) said the following about Bryan Singer, SR and the sequel that never was: From CGSociety(24 August, 2011): The duo worked together on two comic book movies which garnered polar opposite reactions from fans and the movie studios. "X-Men 2 [2003] was an opportunity for Bryan to expand on the characters that he had established in the first film," says Dyas as he explains his theory as to why there was a difference in opinion. "If you look at Superman Returns [2006], Bryan was doing exactly the same thing. He was laying down a foundation.
He was establishing characters, getting everyone to understand who the various people were, and I believe personally that if Bryan had gone on to direct and write Superman: Man of Steel [2013] he would have done exactly the same thing he did with X-Men 2." "What Steven told me was that he keeps a little black book," says Guy Hendrix Dyas while explaining about how he first came to the attention of Steven Spielberg. "Every time he sees something in a film that he likes, he takes out that little black book and writes [some] names down. My name was lucky enough to be one of the ones he wrote down after seeing Superman Returns." Dyas was hired to be the production designer for Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull (2008). Sources: www.cgsociety.org/index.php/CGSFeatures/CGSFeatureSpecial/constructive_conceptsforums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=22955141#post22955141Um... why is this guy proud of being associated with Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? |
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Post by ye5man on Apr 15, 2012 15:28:01 GMT -5
Xmen1 worked as a self contained movie where SR was blatantly unfinished.
Pity WB never made a 2 Supey picture contract. Quite ironic when you remember the "Salkind Clause"
Ah well, I highly doubt a sequel would make me want to see the original more times than I have.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 15, 2012 15:34:50 GMT -5
Singer openly talks about being a bit of a flake creatively- (in the documentary he tells his staff that he is prone to change his mind constantly) but I have a giant amount of trust in him based on his works that have come out - either films or even his work where his name was attached as producer (House). Even if some were slow, (Valkyrie or Usual Suspect), they were still solid movies imo.
I have a brilliant friend who has ADD but that doesn't stop him from being able to produce tremendous work, and from the way that Singer talks in person, it wouldn't be at all suprising to me if Singer suffers a bit of it himself, but the work speaks for itself imo. I LOVED what he did with X2 from X1, and I've always felt as well that SR 2 would have been miles ahead of SR--- and the bits and pieces that came out regarding SR 2 don't sound that crazy to me, except for that one article that came out about the treatment that sounded a bit too far.
They did not get that far on it, but it's the same team that did X2 and SR--- good enough for me to have had faith in it. It didn't matter to me so much if the writers were fans or not, I loved what Singer did with the material.... as long as he was at helm, I would felt ok with it.
(Even as the writer left anyways by the end)
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 16, 2012 11:45:28 GMT -5
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 25, 2012 13:53:33 GMT -5
Saw these today <33 (poor Richard, Lois is clearly still in love with Super) "But you're hurt!"  "Goodbye, Lois"  For the fans watching this forum. |
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Post by Rod on Apr 25, 2012 14:16:47 GMT -5
that is a good scene.
and then the sun recharge, imo the best moment of superman returns.
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Post by ye5man on Apr 25, 2012 16:46:58 GMT -5
What's with Routh's scrawny look?
Remember the choking scene in S3? Reeve could get just one hand around that pencil neck!
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Post by Shane on Apr 26, 2012 5:17:30 GMT -5
sounding like a broken record
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 26, 2012 10:45:58 GMT -5
Awesome stuff Gazer. Love those.
Wow russ, is that new material?
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 26, 2012 11:38:16 GMT -5
Russ:
superman returns sucks.
enrique:
lord of the rings is gay (and therefore literally sucks)
Jor:
tits and beer
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you spelled that wrong, and let's continue with the arcane minutia of home theater.
ATP:
(_________) is crap.
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" this "
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Post by ye5man on Apr 26, 2012 12:11:40 GMT -5
"Exaaaaaaaaactly!"
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 26, 2012 12:20:07 GMT -5
If it means that they're going to take their time and make sure it's done RIGHT, I'm all for it. GL had its fx budget raised at the very last second, and I can only imagine how much money was just wasted on overtime $$$ and inflate the budget. I'm only guessing, but maybe WB traded in more lead time to the fx houses (which they seem to always ask for) in exchange for a rate that wasn't going to be 'overnight delivery $$$' by giving them the extra few months.... thus, the longer post but lowered budget.  |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Apr 26, 2012 12:40:16 GMT -5
Ultimately, Green Lantern's problem wasn't the effects budget.
$175 mil should be PLENTY for Superman. Especially since now we know that, unlike SR, all of it will end up on screen for THIS movie, and isn't stuff being added to the budget from previous failed attempts.
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 27, 2012 16:23:17 GMT -5
Exaaaaaaaaaaaaactly  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 27, 2012 18:29:30 GMT -5
True, very true. The script and direction was just 'off' from the very get-go. Turning Hal Jordan into an unlikeable lout who gets his coworkers unemployed was NOT the way to go, to begin with. Add to that, very little cool Green Lantern action (The training sequence imo was the best part--- but that was only two minutes LONG!!!) and a cloud for the big bad guy was just ridiculous.
Greg Berlianti is like the new Akiva Goldsman- and that's not a compliment. I don't get WHY this guy keeps on getting greenlights for his projects.
As far as Martin Campbell goes.... I thought the movie would have been at least 'ok- good' in his hands.... who knew it would be SO bad that only Geoff Johns defends it. (I guess he has to, with his name as producer) *sigh*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 1:02:06 GMT -5
You don't have to be any good to be a very successful screenwriter in Hollywood. If the studios know you'll write anything and write it in a way that brings in the lowest common denominator and can do so in a very timely manner, that screenwriter will have work until he retires.
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Post by Metallo on Apr 28, 2012 11:18:34 GMT -5
You don't have to be any good to be a very successful screenwriter in Hollywood. If the studios know you'll write anything and write it in a way that brings in the lowest common denominator and can do so in a very timely manner, that screenwriter will have work until he retires. Kurtzman and Orci Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg Akiva Goldsman  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2012 11:37:16 GMT -5
Precisely.
So, I was watching the SR teaser on YouTube last night, and saw many comments saying that it was seen in theaters with a full house and everybody went nuts.
Did that happen to anybody here?
Of course, *I* went fucking bonkers, but I swear, I was the only one in the completely packed theater. It was before one of the Harry Potter movies, and as soon as the Kent mailbox came up, it was almost like a sense of, "Ugh. Smallville's on TV. What's the point of this?" No one cared. There was no electricity through the room, like there should've been. When it was over, I just heard murmurs of, "Eh," and "Whatever," so it's very shocking to see that some people had the complete opposite experience.
God, I would've LOVED to have had the audience applaud and cheer, that would've been something.
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 28, 2012 13:45:40 GMT -5
Audiences in the theater I frequent were enthusiastic as heck for the trailer and especially for the film itself. One of the best theater experiences I ever had. Everybody applauded at all the right parts & came out smiling.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to exit the thread for awhile, as I hear fast footsteps & hardness of breath approaching ;D
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Post by ye5man on Apr 28, 2012 14:14:23 GMT -5
I guess that'd be me then. Unless its Gazer with more quotes from Twitter (beat you to it, Gazer)
Anyway.
Funny how the people who defend the film also enjoyed the positive experiences during the trailers. I don't recall if I saw the trailor on the big screen or not but was awed enough by watching on the net. My colleagues at the time weren't that bothered though (fuck them!)
Maybe they'd seen a leaked copy of the film ;D
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Apr 28, 2012 16:02:19 GMT -5
The moviegoing experience in general at the theatres has devolved so much now, that I'm just thrilled if nobody is opening up their damned cellphones to text in the middle of a trailer (it's already expected during the middle of a movie- *sigh*).... I'm just glad that I was able to enjoy the first Superman movie with audiences awed in the right places, and exploding with laughter in the right spots, too.
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