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Post by belloq on Jun 29, 2011 11:11:20 GMT -5
Saga of The Swamp Thing, Vol. 1
liked this one a lot, especially Moore's new take on the origin (insanely brilliant) and his take on Superman (nice to see his off the charts i.q. get noticed.
Silver Surfer: Requiem
as far as death stories go (which usually seem to be underwheling to me), i dug it.
Wolverine: Old Man Logan
pretty fun, thought the Eastwood/Man With No Name vibe was a little overused.
Astonishing X-Men Omnibus
certainly shows how perfect Whedon could be for the Avengers movie. it would be hard to find better relationships in anything else.
Marvel Masterworks: Dr. Strange, vol. 1
super cool if you're a fan of 60's horror/sci-fi B movies. was nice to experience some old school Lee/Ditko shit after reading so much modern stuff. this was my first Marvel Masterworks and the layout was perfect, will definitely be getting more in the MM series.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jun 29, 2011 14:13:58 GMT -5
Dude, the Swamp Thing stuff just gets better and better. Even after Moore leaves, there's a few volumes of Rick Veitch stuff that's pretty off-the-charts too!
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Post by belloq on Jun 29, 2011 16:25:12 GMT -5
oh for sure, i'll pick up the second one pretty soon and hopefully keep going from there. looking forward, someone was telling me john constantine comes into play which has me very interested.
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Post by ShogunLogan on Jul 2, 2011 12:37:38 GMT -5
Fantastic Four 12 I got a ratty copy of it. Hilarious. 1st meeting of the Hulk and the FF. Banner didn't transform into the Hulk when angry, he actually exposed himself to more gamma radiation to do it. He was smart also. Human Torch's power was limited and Invisible Girl was there to "give a moral boost" to the other members. The letters page was more hilarious. One guy offering up his collection to other readers. You were to mail him your want list and your best offer. Another reader wrote that he would pay 50 cents to anyone wanting to sell their FF #1!  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 5, 2011 23:12:53 GMT -5
God bless Marvel Masterworks!  Digging purchasing these volumes when they're on sale- The last ones read were Jim Starlin's: #1: Captain Marvel #2: Warlock In conjunction with: #3: Jim Starlin- my life in words and pictures and #4: Back Issue (the last one that came out) featuring even more info on Starlin that isn't even covered in his memoir. The art on these things are amazing, I don't know if any of you are Starlin fans, but this was at his peak, when artists were paid like crap in comix, but they put loving detail in every corner of a book. The morality tales of these stories, and Starlin's storytelling style (funny that his influences are Ditko and Kirby- two diametrically opposed art influences) puts so many artists in the current era to shame. The funny thing is the chasm between the writer/artist's intentions versus the results, though, I have to admit. In his memoirs, often he was 'winging it', but damned if you could tell in the results, as the story details and art are so precise, you'd swear that he had a solid vision in his head from start to finish. Also worth noting is Joss Whedon's admission that the finest comic ever was Jim Starlin's 'death of Warlock'- Avengers Annual #7 at comicon- to an audience of Whedonites who filled the room & probably at the time might never have known what the heck the Avengers even were- (and were there mainly out of a love for "Buffy" and "Firefly"). Anyhow, even though I've read these books when they came out, that's the last set of books I've re-read lately. (And if someone points out how crappy his "Death of the New Gods" was, he has a great explanation why in his memoirs. That project apparently was somewhat out of his hands.) |
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Post by belloq on Jul 6, 2011 2:24:57 GMT -5
gonna check out Warlock, you've sold me.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Jul 6, 2011 8:53:21 GMT -5
CAM, you're a Starlin fan? Good man!
Read that copy of Back Issue. Some interesting stuff re: Death Of The New Gods. Although, honestly, NOBODY has done anything worthwhile with those concepts since Kirby, so I don't really point fingers for that one.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 6, 2011 20:18:53 GMT -5
Sweet! The nice thing about that particular volume of Marvel Masterworks is that, that one in particular covered ALL the Starlin issues (plus an extra 'side' issue that had a bit of continuity definitely needed) & so, unlike the Captain Marvel Masterworks (which should have had the Avengers' tie-in & the extra non-Starlin issue at the end to tie up loose ends)- it's a complete story covering the whole life, as the first issue of Starlin's even a recap of his history up to then.
Will be curious what you think. There are some great sites (or ebay) to where you can get this book at a great price....
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 6, 2011 20:23:00 GMT -5
Ah, I take it that you also are a Starlin fan, Val?  Some stuff doesn't age as well as others, but other stuff is even better over time. I count Starlin's stuff during that era as being in that latter group. (Although his 'Dreadstar' series and stuff post-Warlock has been so-so....) About the New Gods..... if ANYONE was going to a great job with these characters, it should have been Starlin (especially as I thought his "Captain Marvel" series with Thanos/Mentor/Eros was almost his version of Kirby's New Gods)--- but, man, what a sad result....  |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Jul 8, 2011 1:27:51 GMT -5
V for Vendetta
The more I read this, the more I dislike the movie. The story's message in the graphic novel is much clearer and actually more inspiring. Not that I'd want to blow shit up, but the principle behind making a world through our own choices is a very inspiring one. In the case of the story...to achieve that, V had to be the "terrorist" against that regime. The movie totally overlooks that, I believe. It's been a while since I've seen it.
I think Val said this like a couple of years ago, or maybe it was in person....but this works better as a miniseries. As I've read it, I think it'll work much better as a 30-minute animated miniseries. (in fact, that's what you said, I think)
And you know what, I think it would be cooler if it was done in 1990s anime style. Hand drawn and detailed.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jul 27, 2011 18:09:20 GMT -5
"Superman : whatever happened ot the man of tomorow?"
brilliant.
whats funny(innane) is that DC used to call what would become "elseworlds", "imaginary stories" which is/was dumb as ALL comics are imaginary- and alan moore poked fun at that in the intro!
but since it was not "cannon" he got away with a LOT more than he would have othewise.
brilliant story, man i wish alan moore would write more superman.
did he do anything else besides this and "for the man who has everything" and that swamp thing arc?
i know he did a run on "supreme" which was a proxy superman.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 0:43:28 GMT -5
Captain America: Winter Soldier
My first Cap read. Otherwise, I've only read about him in the Ultimates, but never a stand alone Cap storyline.
Holy shit.
So, basically, Captain America is like half Batman half Superman? This was SO fucking good. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Really damn fun. I had no idea Cap could be like this. Impressive. I will buy more.
(I didn't really care for Invisibles, Val. I liked it, sure, but not enough to want to buy more. It's a little (trumpet noise) out there)
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 2, 2011 9:38:58 GMT -5
As far as Superman goes, I think that was it. As far as proxies go, he did "Promethea" which was a gorgeously drawn version of Wonder Woman/Captain Marvel- except the ending, which blew.
It's funny that as much as Moore says he's done with supeheroes and DC- he keeps going back to it in one way or another....
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Post by ShogunLogan on Aug 8, 2011 17:37:57 GMT -5
Captain America: Winter SoldierMy first Cap read. Otherwise, I've only read about him in the Ultimates, but never a stand alone Cap storyline. Holy shit. So, basically, Captain America is like half Batman half Superman? This was SO fucking good. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Really damn fun. I had no idea Cap could be like this. Impressive. I will buy more. I read bits and pieces but that Cap (the Winter Soldier) was Bucky, correct? He was frozen too and had a robotic arm or something. Was brainwashed..yadda yadda, right? He was recently killed (again) in Fear Itself. This paved the way for Steve Rogers to be Cap again just in time for the movie. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 14:53:26 GMT -5
New Frontier
Goddamn wonderful. I wish the animated movie had every single thing from the comic in it. It should be four hours long. I don't care. Longer, even.
Anything else by Cooke worth checking out? I love his art and his writing.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Aug 21, 2011 13:43:20 GMT -5
World War Hulk
Good, dumb fun. It's a giant Michael Bay movie of a comic.
World War Hulk: Incredible Hulk
This was the main tie-in by the same writer, Greg Pak. It deals with Amadeus Cho (the smartest teenager on Earth) and Hercules trying to help the Hulk out a bit.
Incredible Hercules Volume 1
This spins out of the whole World War Hulk thing. It is FUCKING BRILLIANT. It's hilarious. They ran with this concept for about 40 issues. It's a buddy movie with Amadeus Cho and Hercules as they're on the run from SHIELD and mixing it up with various mythological baddies. Honestly, if they wanna make a Marvel Hercules movie, this is the way to do it. It's HILARIOUS and very, very smart. It wrapped up recently and I'm working my way through the whole thing.
Villains United
This is what launched the Secret Six series...which I think I'm gonna start a separate thread for, as it really deserves it. Basically, it's a team of B and C list supervillains (Catman! Deadshot! Scandal! Ragdoll!) who are kind of like The A-Team. Except evil. Amazing.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Sept 5, 2011 20:37:39 GMT -5
MARVEL : CIVIL WAR  not sure how i feel about the ending, but i thinkit's not "the end". i like that cap went all libertarian and how tony (unintentionally) went all fascist "for our own good" |
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Post by Paul (ral) on Sept 6, 2011 19:17:07 GMT -5
Batman: Arkham City prequel by Paul Dini.
5 issues - each one is great.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Sept 6, 2011 21:14:11 GMT -5
Hated Civil War. HATED it. Preachy, obvious, Mark Millar dreck.
Cool Cap moments in the first issue, though. But I NEVER bought Tony's rationale for the whole thing. Not for one minute. Nor did I buy that "resolution".
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Sept 6, 2011 21:52:58 GMT -5
Hated Civil War. HATED it. Preachy, obvious, Mark Millar dreck. Cool Cap moments in the first issue, though. But I NEVER bought Tony's rationale for the whole thing. Not for one minute. Nor did I buy that "resolution". ...hmmmm.... see, i was always respond to my own personal craving being validated, and in this case, captian america validated my take- he was totally libertarian and anti-government. cap was like me/ i wanted to be cap. iron man? yeah he was a dick. but i didn't buy that this was 'the end". it felt like something else was building up. like cap was just waiting to find a way. anyway, i value this discussion. |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Sept 7, 2011 9:41:57 GMT -5
SUPERMAN: ending battle.
not bad, B/B+
geoff johns (and joe kelly so you know it's violent)
and several artists.
the plot : "someone finds out superman is clark kent/kent is superman".
NOT a brilliant thing. you may remember the epic-fail of "the death of clark kent" which solidified the predictable angle that if someone did find out the secret they would either a: conveniently die or b: conveniently get amnesia. (or c: be lois lane and marry superman)
"ending battle" does it a lot better than "death of clark kent" and it uses a lot of under-used villains like "master jailer" and so forth.
also- the ending is weird. its not like "death of clarkkent" as such, and it involves a character(s) brought in in action # 775 "whats so funny about truth justice and the american way" (which i have recently acquired- but haven't read yet)
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Sept 8, 2011 15:14:21 GMT -5
ACTION 775
"whats so funny about truth, justice and the american way? "
very interesting. a direct precursor to "ending battle".
basically a debate about whether a benign superman is 'relevant" and whether we'd prefer "darker/grittier" heroes/anti-heroes.
EDIT:
this is evidently being adapted into a new DC/premiere animated flick.
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Post by belloq on Sept 12, 2011 13:18:45 GMT -5
just cracked open the first volume of y the last man.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Sept 12, 2011 15:15:51 GMT -5
Been meaning to check that out. Heard universally great stuff about it. And I loved the writer's other series, Ex Machina...
Let me know how it is! Start a new thread for it!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2011 16:31:24 GMT -5
You haven't read Y?
I...I've read something you haven't?
Jesus Christ...what's happening?!?
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