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Post by Metallo on Oct 15, 2012 13:26:37 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I think the DCAU origin of the Justice League was perfect. I just don't think they'll go that route for two reasons: 1) "The Avengers" did an alien invasion, and people will already see this as a copycat (and with Thanos coming down the pipeline that might rule out Darkseid for a while too). 2) No Martian Manhunter. The powers that be will want to push their current brand, and MM isn't part of the team anymore. Needless to say, I think Starro is completely off the table:  The Batman Beyond version of Starro could make for a pretty cool sci fi action film but the idea of alien control is something we've seen a lot of before. I think the comics did something similar in the 90's. Avengers did the kind of outsider influence a little but but not enough that JLA couldn't do it. Crisis on Two Earths could make for a great live action film but not only do you have to introduced people to the League but the concept of alternate Earths and their evil counterparts. Its still something a superhero film hasn't done yet. For this movie to really work it obviously has to be good but things have to be played straight AND kept fun. Thats why Iron man worked and Green Lantern didn't. Thats why Avengers worked. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 15, 2012 15:09:07 GMT -5
I dont think people are going to give a crap if JLA has alien invasion..People are looking for entertainment. Huge disappointment if Lex is the villian.That would be shit writing like SR was. It called competition.. I look at it as Marvels Brand and then WB brand. Plenty of similar flims......Dante Peak/Volcano...... Armageddon/Deep Impact...War of the worlds/Independence Day/The day the earth stood still... Its goes on and on...So whats the difference here?  ? Except the problem is some of those films DIDN'T do as well because of similar subject matter and stories and others opened DECADES apart. Dredd was a damn good film but besides the poor marketing a lot of people wrote it off as a knock off of OTHER similar seige films. Even the filmmakers on both sides commented on similarities. The Raid wasn't even an american film but people wrote Dredd off as being too similar without giving it a chance. Didn't Dante's Peak TANK at the domestic box office box office? So did Volcano. Doesn't help what you are saying. Independance Day opened a DECADE before the War of the Worlds remake and 40 years after the original. Thats not going to be the case the the Marvel films and the DC films. They'll go head to head and HAVE gone head to head. When the competition goes head to head aroudn the same time and rather large simiarities pop up people DO notice sometimes. Doesn't help when these types of films are opening so close to each other and so frequently. |
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Post by Keith on Oct 19, 2012 9:03:17 GMT -5
Looks like it's Official! Just announced right after the WB Superman victory that the Justice League movie will hit the theaters summer of 2015. Shooting starts next summer and cast, director and all that will be announced within the next 2 weeks to a few months. www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-justice-league-superman-20121018,0,6421111.story Doing the JL movie first, then spinning off with Individual character movies.. I hope this works. I hope that they do a good casting job like how Marvel has been doing.. people that looks like the character they are supposed to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 10:58:21 GMT -5
Well. The next few years will certainly be interesting, then.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Oct 19, 2012 11:25:53 GMT -5
No sources cited.
yawn.
Wake me when WB issues an official press release. Until then, I believe not one word of this.
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Post by Kirok on Oct 19, 2012 11:26:52 GMT -5
Bad idea going directly up against "Avengers 2." JL's only hope is a March release date; it would give them the jump on A2 for superhero team-up film of the summer, and enough time (1 1/2 to 2 months) to have some legs box office-wisre before A2 comes out the first week of May and take everything over. March is Zack Snyder's time of year anyway, and at this point he would be the obvious choice to direct.
Now, going into JL with only Superman established is another bad idea, but at this point it is what it is and let's hope the casting is top notch for all the other Leaguers. If a character fails to win over audiences then that's goodbye to their potential solo franchise before it even gets off the ground.
All that said, part of me IS happy they're taking a different route for JL than Marvel did for "Avengers." It'll diffuse the inevitable cries of copycatism.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 20, 2012 23:42:10 GMT -5
Unless MOS is mind-blowing, I'd still have more faith in George Miller for the JLA, even with all the crazy rumors from fans about how bad that was going to be. Also, since they don't seem to have a lot of production time, (it seems) why not go back to the guy who was prepping it for years?
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Post by Valentine Smith on Oct 21, 2012 8:46:57 GMT -5
I know nothing about George Miller, but I'd probably cut off a pinkie to see photos of the costumes and sets that were built for that project. I hear they were amazing, and that the bat-gadgets in particular were really cool looking.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 21, 2012 13:58:07 GMT -5
George Miller did the cult Mad Max series with Mel Gibson years back, did the best episode of the Speilberg produced "Twilight Zone" movie (where four directors did remakes of four tv episodes but for the bigscreen in a collection), and more recently was the producer of "Babe" and the "Happy Feet" series.... but check out Mad Max 3: Beyond Thunderdome- great scifi/ actioner.... and Mel in his prime before he got old and a little nuts. If you see Max 3, I think you might agree he would be great doing a superhero film.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Oct 21, 2012 16:13:17 GMT -5
oh, holy crap! I don't know why I didn't put that together!
In that case, yes...I think I would have been fine with that Justice League movie. Can anyone remember what the outcry about it was? Or was it just the typical: "the actors are younger/more attractive than me, therefore I can't aspire to be these heroes anymore" garbage?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 21, 2012 16:43:28 GMT -5
If I recall right, (and anyone can correct me if I have this wrong), the list was:
#1: the age of the actors cast for the roles... I think Megan Fox was cast as Wonder Woman, which I guess I can understand some worry, given a less-than great reputation. (I only vaguely remember her from the first Transformers and that her name gets thrown around a lot in the press for bad on-set behavior)
#2: the use/non-use of Batman in the film (Nolan's coming out and saying he wasn't going to be happy about two Batman on-screen I think morphed the script to be Batman-free, but it's all internet rumors on what that script originally was)
I think casting was the main thing, but it was sad to hear one of the actors talk about how deep Miller wanted the prep- the guy who was cast as Batman had an interview about how Miller had the actors go through preps and wanted the actors to approach the material with a deep psychological understanding of who they were, versus just a 'take the money and run' type attitude showing up.
Even if they asked Mller back at this point, I'd highly doubt he'd return. Hopefully who has just as high a reputation for great filmmaking takes it on*......
((*Although should be probably noted that Martin Campbell had a good reputation on putting together a solid movie- but his films generally were hit/miss, depending on the scripts, but there's that giant question mark over just whether or not the studio or Campbell was the reason GL was such a trainwreck. If it was the studio interference that blew it, then the same could be true for any director if it'll be the same set of circumstances...))
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Post by theoj on Nov 6, 2012 10:16:32 GMT -5
Really hope they don't rush Justice League.
Even at its best, it stands almost no chance of eclipsing Avengers 2.
Best bet is to delay till Xmas 2015 or June 2016.
Go for Ben Affleck as director... Argo is fantastic!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 10:24:39 GMT -5
Since no one liked my idea for re-casting Rhoady ever flick and my suggestion for "Iron Man 3" I hereby submit that Martian Manhunter should be portrayed by Tyler Perry. Otherwise, fuck this movie.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 6, 2012 11:12:52 GMT -5
Haven't seen it yet, but reviews on the net say it's great, too.
Wouldn't be opposed to Affleck directing, but...
My vote is for Whedon to write/produce, since he's too busy to direct. While he's not THE best director, he can deliver fast (with all his experience in tv) but he's a genuine fanboy who can write just about anything, it seems, and more than makes up for anything else.
He's also groomed a lot of great writers on his tv shows, if he didn't have time to do the screenplay, he could put someone on who would be good and still be a guiding creative hand over the shooting screenplay.
Vaughn would be a good choice, I think, too--- but mainly (imo) because he's smart enough to keep using Jane Goldman as his primary screenwriter for his films. (or rewriter as the case may be)
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Post by Valentine Smith on Nov 6, 2012 11:15:52 GMT -5
I'm gonna assume Whedon is unavailable because of Avengers 2.
Brad Bird? I haven't seen Ghost Protocol, so maybe you guys can let me know about that.
Duncan Jones? Probably too big for a first timer. Look at the difficulties Singer had making X1 look big enough.
Matthew Vaughan? I like him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 11:47:11 GMT -5
Brad Bird did a superb job with Ghost Protocol. It's a great-looking film.
Matthew Vaughn would be good, presuming he doesn't bail 3 months from the start date. That happens frequently with him. He's rumored to be up for the Episode VII job, so he may be occupied.
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Post by Jimbo on Nov 6, 2012 14:37:35 GMT -5
My vote is for Whedon to write/produce, since he's too busy to direct. While he's not THE best director, he can deliver fast (with all his experience in tv) but he's a genuine fanboy who can write just about anything, it seems, and more than makes up for anything else. He's also groomed a lot of great writers on his tv shows, if he didn't have time to do the screenplay, he could put someone on who would be good and still be a guiding creative hand over the shooting screenplay. That is not how this business works. Whedon would not work on a Marvel film and DC film at the same time, or even close to each other, not without alienating one of them and getting left behind. See also: Bryan Singer It would be most unwise to do that. |
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Post by Melv on Nov 6, 2012 17:22:22 GMT -5
It needs to have a completely different tone anyway. If it even feels a bit like The Avengers people will cry rip-off.
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Post by Kirok on Nov 7, 2012 16:00:42 GMT -5
At this point I'd rather see Brad Bird direct the Star Wars sequel trilogy, but if things don't turn out that way I'd be thrilled to see him tackle JL.
The problem with Matthew Vaughn is he's unreliable and apparently can't stayed committed to projects. Kinda like Bryan Singer, ironically.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 7, 2012 20:20:30 GMT -5
Ah.... very true. Pity. Can you imagine if Singer WAS allowed to oversee Xmen 3 as well as direct SR (he mentioned he'd hoped he could have done that at comicon years ago--- have to upload it sometime if folks here are interested in seeing it)?
Oh well... At least he's back with Xmen.... (for now)
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 7, 2012 20:22:32 GMT -5
;D
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Post by theoj on Nov 8, 2012 12:57:38 GMT -5
Perhaps Robert Zemeckis would like a shot at it, since he's back at live action movie making and always moving the effects industry forward with new, dazzling and groundbreaking visual effects.
If not, JJ Abrams would also be ideal, assuming Trek 2 is as good as Trek 1 (and he's not busy on Trek 3!).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2012 1:23:04 GMT -5
I honestly don't want Abrams involved. He's too much of a name, now. He is, in fact, probably more of a name now than Spielberg would be. It would be an Abrams film, but a Justice League film done by Abrams. It would be all him. All whacked out and chronologically off and all that sorta shit. It works for L O S T and some other things, but not JLA. Enough with your bullshit, Abrams, just make a good fucking movie without relying on your tricks.
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Post by Melv on Nov 9, 2012 4:00:11 GMT -5
I don't think there are too many of his tricks in MI 3 or Star Trek. They're both just fun, roller-coaster film rides.
I think he'd be great myself.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 9, 2012 12:26:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure why Abrams is so revered beyond Trek-
Loved the new Trek, although I felt that the only thing that felt 'not Trek' was the lack of any real message, that most of the other Trek films have usually tried to have, so that it wasn't just a rollercoaster ride.
Mission Impossible 3 was engaging but ultimately lightweight (preferred the silly but stylish MI 2).
I enjoy but haven't been head over heels over his tv shows.
He might be a bigger name than Speilberg now, but outside of a brilliant re-inventing of Trek- my own feeling is that his work is a bit overrated, although others of course love his stuff.
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