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Post by Metallo on Aug 13, 2010 13:41:17 GMT -5
I read that rumor too. It could be true but I doubt it. I can't imagine they are even close to screen tests or casting yet. I don't even expect this movie till 2013 at the earliest.
Nolan should just make his Superman movie an indirect PREQUEL to Superman Returns and change mostly anything he wants like music, designs, and even some casting. Problem solved. That way he doesn't have to acknowledge Superman Returns but he doesn't have to totally contradict it either. Just say its all before he left Earth.
He'd have a status quo "classic Superman" with none of the baggage of Superman Returns and can do whatever he wants. No kid, no Richard White, no Luthor, recast Lois, and a bad guy of his choosing. Its the best of both worlds
I don't get why thats so hard to do.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Aug 14, 2010 11:14:15 GMT -5
If it's confirmed that Brandon tests for the role, and doesn't get it, I'll feel a little better about things than if he doesn't even get a chance. I'm willing to accept a new Superman, but think he at least deserves another shot.
Sorta like how Gerard Christopher pretty much landed the part of Superman for Lois And Clark, but then the producers kicked him off because he had already done Superboy. Dumb.
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Post by EvilSupes on Aug 14, 2010 12:51:14 GMT -5
I read that rumor too. It could be true but I doubt it. I can't imagine they are even close to screen tests or casting yet. I don't even expect this movie till 2013 at the earliest. Nolan should just make his Superman movie an indirect PREQUEL to Superman Returns and change mostly anything he wants like music, designs, and even some casting. Problem solved. That way he doesn't have to acknowledge Superman Returns but he doesn't have to totally contradict it either. Just say its all before he left Earth. He'd have a status quo "classic Superman" with none of the baggage of Superman Returns and can do whatever he wants. No kid, no Richard White, no Luthor, recast Lois, and a bad guy of his choosing. Its the best of both worlds I don't get why thats so hard to do. You stole my idea! Just kidding! I had a very similar idea for the way Singer could take SR when he was still attached. It loses any connection to anything Superman fans disliked about SR with it being a prequel, while also still keeping all the strong bits that made Brandon so good at being Supes. That way fans on both sides of the fence get what they want, unless of course they are Tom Welling bum bandits. |
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Post by stargazer01 on Aug 30, 2010 16:52:42 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Aug 30, 2010 17:45:28 GMT -5
I read that rumor too. It could be true but I doubt it. I can't imagine they are even close to screen tests or casting yet. I don't even expect this movie till 2013 at the earliest. Nolan should just make his Superman movie an indirect PREQUEL to Superman Returns and change mostly anything he wants like music, designs, and even some casting. Problem solved. That way he doesn't have to acknowledge Superman Returns but he doesn't have to totally contradict it either. Just say its all before he left Earth. He'd have a status quo "classic Superman" with none of the baggage of Superman Returns and can do whatever he wants. No kid, no Richard White, no Luthor, recast Lois, and a bad guy of his choosing. Its the best of both worlds I don't get why thats so hard to do. You stole my idea! Just kidding! I had a very similar idea for the way Singer could take SR when he was still attached. It loses any connection to anything Superman fans disliked about SR with it being a prequel, while also still keeping all the strong bits that made Brandon so good at being Supes. That way fans on both sides of the fence get what they want, unless of course they are Tom Welling bum bandits. Hollywoods just full of idiots with big egos. WB could have kept the things that worked in SR while still dumping the bad stuff. Prequels are all the rage these days anyway. |
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Post by Metallo on Aug 30, 2010 17:46:49 GMT -5
Voted. Isn't a decade of Tom Welling as Clark Kent enough? Even he must be ready to move on. |
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Post by Legsy on Aug 30, 2010 23:46:30 GMT -5
I voted, guess who?  |
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Post by Valentine Smith on Aug 31, 2010 1:45:31 GMT -5
I voted Routh. The dude deserves another shot at the role.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 31, 2010 2:24:19 GMT -5
I was originally suprised to hear that Sam Raimi felt that some things didn't work in Spiderman 1 that he directed, and then went ahead and make corrections based off those things for the superior Spiderman 2.
Similiarly, the Leonard Nimoy-directed Star Trek IV is far far better than his Star Trek III.
And- Xmen 2 by Singer by (just about) unanimous opinion is far better than his Xmen 1.
Even the horrible first Fantastic Four film by Tim Story got a better sequel (although still parts that are dreadful) by the same director.
The ideal would have been working with the same director for the sequel- it's definitely not unheard of for a director to look back and see things that he might have changed or learns things he can improve upon for a sequel.
Anyhow.... it's all been said before and argued about before.
At this stage- realistically, best scenario now (imo) is to hope for is for Routh to come back under Nolan's film- and that it be great.
Imo WB made a giant mistake in not pushing MOS under Singer & sticking to it.
A second mistake would be dumping Routh for someone that may not like nearly as much.
I know some here don't mind a change in actors for Superman, but if it's for the worse...... OUGH.... ;p
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Post by stargazer01 on Aug 31, 2010 10:00:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the support guys! Any way, it doesn't really mean anything, it's just an internet poll and one where people can easily cheat (keep voting and voting by deleating the cookies). Not sure how they do it but those with a lot of time in their hands do it, no doubt. It'd be better if only members of the board could vote.
Meh, Whatever
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Post by EvilSupes on Aug 31, 2010 10:51:54 GMT -5
I voted for Brandon but I don't think it made much of a difference from looking at those poll results.  |
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Post by Jimbo on Aug 31, 2010 10:53:22 GMT -5
Eh, the people who like Smallville are the same ones who think the Twilight series are the best things to happen to movies since Titanic. Except for Kirok and legsy, of course.  |
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Post by Legsy on Aug 31, 2010 11:22:05 GMT -5
No, there's way more Smallville fans out there that loathe Twilight as much as I.
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Post by Jimbo on Aug 31, 2010 11:32:31 GMT -5
No, there's way more Smallville fans out there that loathe Twilight as much as I. Surely not the Clana shippers, though. ;D |
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Post by Legsy on Aug 31, 2010 11:42:23 GMT -5
Unfortunately not. Thems loves Twilight!
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Post by stargazer01 on Aug 31, 2010 13:04:26 GMT -5
No, there's way more Smallville fans out there that loathe Twilight as much as I. Surely not the Clana shippers, though. ;D Oh I'm sure the Clana shippers adore Twilight. Man these people are so not real Superman fans. They just want angst! Cringe-worthy angst like this (and going by the comments, they would totally watch a Clana based movie)..  Lois? What's Lois for Clark after scenes like this, though?? No wonder why so many hate Lana. What I don't understand is WHY they don't hate this pathetic version of Clark as well..  |
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Post by Metallo on Aug 31, 2010 13:09:15 GMT -5
I was originally suprised to hear that Sam Raimi felt that some things didn't work in Spiderman 1 that he directed, and then went ahead and make corrections based off those things for the superior Spiderman 2. Similiarly, the Leonard Nimoy-directed Star Trek IV is far far better than his Star Trek III. And- Xmen 2 by Singer by (just about) unanimous opinion is far better than his Xmen 1. Even the horrible first Fantastic Four film by Tim Story got a better sequel (although still parts that are dreadful) by the same director. The ideal would have been working with the same director for the sequel- it's definitely not unheard of for a director to look back and see things that he might have changed or learns things he can improve upon for a sequel. Anyhow.... it's all been said before and argued about before. At this stage- realistically, best scenario now (imo) is to hope for is for Routh to come back under Nolan's film- and that it be great. Imo WB made a giant mistake in not pushing MOS under Singer & sticking to it. A second mistake would be dumping Routh for someone that may not like nearly as much. I know some here don't mind a change in actors for Superman, but if it's for the worse...... OUGH.... ;p There's so many things about Spidey 2 that trounce part 1. The dialogue is better, Doc Ock is handled better than Green Goblin. The emotional arc is just more potent. My biggest beef with studios being all reboot happy when they screw up is why should people invest themselves and get excited for a new movie in a new series when there's a good chance it'll just be ignored and tossed out after it comes out? Sometimes reboots are needed but Spider-man is one of those times where I don't feel its totally justified. Spidey 3 had a lot of crap in it but that series isn't unsalvageable. I don't even mind recasting now but I have no interest in redoing the origin. There's so much they already got right in the first two movies. Why throw all that away? |
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Post by stargazer01 on Sept 30, 2010 12:14:24 GMT -5
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Post by Legsy on Sept 30, 2010 12:15:51 GMT -5
 Amazing, absolutely amazing!
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Post by Valentine Smith on Sept 30, 2010 13:31:04 GMT -5
yeah, ummmm...that's Superman, right there.
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 7, 2010 18:06:28 GMT -5
yeah, ummmm...that's Superman, right there. He'd look something like that in another Superman movie, no doubt. Love this pic, my two fave Clarks ever.  |
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Post by ye5man on Oct 7, 2010 19:37:31 GMT -5
Still looks too young IMO, plus it emphasises how WB screwed up the colours in his Superman film
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 8, 2010 2:04:20 GMT -5
When I saw early Reeve photos of Superman (before the movie was released), I thought Reeve too young. Sold when the actual movie came out, though.
I wouldn't be opposed to an older interpretation.....but I have a strong hunch that any summer blockbuster from a major studio would have a hard time backing any unknown who's beyond the 25-35 age range for Superman.
(*Then again, Indiana Jones is 70 & Robert Downey Jr. is in his 40's, so you never know, but I have a feeling that these are exceptions to the rule....again, will see....)
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Post by ye5man on Oct 8, 2010 8:09:44 GMT -5
Routh's neck is too skinny; it looked like the costume was choking him!
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Post by stargazer01 on Oct 8, 2010 11:43:30 GMT -5
His neck is not 'too skinny' anymore. He's older, and he looks more mature in every way. He'll be 31 tomorrow.   This one was taken back in 2006 or so, and he's not in Superman shape. Still, I see Superman right there. It's not so much about all the dimensions of his body, but on how the actor embodies and inhabits the character, imo.  Also, I don't think an older Superman like George Reeves would really sell nowdays. It could work for other heroes that aren't as iconic as Supes, but I don't think it'd work for him. He's supposed to be eternally handsome and god-like. Someone around 30 sounds about right, especially if they want sequels. Being Superman really requires someone with LOTS of energy for all the action scenes, imo. |
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