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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 2, 2011 23:19:12 GMT -5
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 2, 2011 23:44:40 GMT -5
SUPERMAN
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 3, 2011 12:34:31 GMT -5
i'd like to see a bio-pic ( like "ray" or the one about johnny cash) of NEIL DIAMOND with routh as neil. he looks a like a young neil.
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 3, 2011 13:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 3, 2011 13:33:51 GMT -5
That girl is interviewing Superman!
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 3, 2011 13:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 3, 2011 13:54:09 GMT -5
As well there fucking should be. Watching cavill in recent interviews reminds me of just how much more Brandon GETS the responsibility of the role of Superman. He was always so humble, & kind & honest in interviews. Whereas cavill always has this slightly Jude Law-ish smug looking grin on his face & care free attitude about the whole thing. Watching Requiem for Krypton makes it hard to forgive the company that shafted Brandon Routh just because they didn't want to confuse the laypeople, who will only see the new movie once in passing & who don't even care or give a fuck anyway. Studios are always so afraid of confusing the Layfucks. FUCK the laypeople crowd. Studios are putting too much thought into the whole thing. They think that lay folks will be confused if they reboot the franchise but keep Routh (The most perfect Superman on planet earth at this time). They think that those people will say " Why are we seeing an origin with the guy from the last movie?" They wont. They will go see the movie & say " Gee what a fun Superman movie! He punched stuff!" And then they might watch it once more on netflix. Whereas fans who will see the movie multiple times & buy multiple editions on Blu Ray are smart enough to know " They rebooted the franchise but kept that Awesome Routh guy. Makes sense!" God dammit it just makes me so fucking mad. Gonna go watch Routh interviews from the time of the release. He understands the weight, gravitas & responsibility of the role. He gets it, like cavill never will. I think cavill gets it about as much as snyder does. Probably why snyder likes him. Maybe they will go get matching Superman \S/ tattoos that have tribal art & flaming barbed wire surrounding the \S/.
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 3, 2011 14:15:53 GMT -5
MAV, agree 100% with everything you said. Brandon really is The real Superman. I've seen lots of comments from people like this on both twitter and Facebook, "hehehehe...look at what our new Superman has been doing!!!!"Source: www.facebook.com/DylanDogDeadofNightApparently, lots of people still don't know that there is a roboot with a new Superman. To them Brandon is still the new Superman.
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 4, 2011 1:04:23 GMT -5
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 4, 2011 3:41:46 GMT -5
99% of the people who post comments on that site act like 14 year old idiots.
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Post by Shane on Apr 4, 2011 4:52:27 GMT -5
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 4, 2011 15:21:16 GMT -5
As well there fucking should be. Watching cavill in recent interviews reminds me of just how much more Brandon GETS the responsibility of the role of Superman. He was always so humble, & kind & honest in interviews. Whereas cavill always has this slightly Jude Law-ish smug looking grin on his face & care free attitude about the whole thing. completely 100% disagree. i just saw a clip of him and i read his first major interview and was VERY impressed with his attitude and sense of reverance for the character and that it is an honor and he's glad he's doing it now- as a more epxerienced actor- than when he was up for mcg's and SR superman. i think he'll win over a huge majority. agree. routh got shafted, but it is just as likely he was only hired because he looked like reeve. well, if recent information is any indication it doesn't sound at all like they're afraid of confusing people. they're already saying the nolan-snyder superman will be independant of the justice league movie (IF it happens) and that there will be TWO superman films simultaneously that aren't connected. there's lingering talk of a smallville-ah-heck-let's-do-season-11 or possibly some smallville tv movies that also will be unconnected, so it sounds like confusion is the business model. i don't blame you. but it's been YEARS. routh has moved on and accepted it. sounds a LOT like people boycotting SR because it didn't have tom welling. attacking henry cavill isn't brining routh any closer to a new superman movie.
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Post by ye5man on Apr 4, 2011 15:51:36 GMT -5
People now attacking Cavill because they liked Routh in the role?
Has Hurst come back to the board or something?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2011 16:08:06 GMT -5
I think it's a bit too early to tell if Cavill "gets it" so to speak. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if he's incredible in the role. Getting it or not.
Furthermore, good interview with Routh. He really does love the character. Getting the role and not coming back hasn't spoiled his love for it, he was clearly a fan way before, and that's pretty cool. I'm glad he mentioned the CGI flying, too. Finally. Someone from the movie said something about it.
Ah, what would have been...ahhhhhhh well. Life goes on.
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Post by stargazer01 on Apr 4, 2011 16:23:01 GMT -5
I just watched the Collider interview with Cavill and the director to his recent movie. It was the first time I've seen a video of him (had only seen him in pictures).
I was a little hesitant, I thought 'what if I like him?' What if he is just as amazing as some others say?'
I felt nothing. He's a good looking guy, but he doesn't say Superman to me the way Reeve and Routh did/do. I just don't see the wholesome all-american boyscout in him at all. And his voice is deep but it didn't impress me. He sounds even more nasal than Brandon. I really didn't like the color of his voice much.
Sure you can say I'm bias and I am in a way. I just feel like Brandon embodies the role so perfectly and he has ruined other 'Supermen' (besides Reeve) for me so far.
I disagree. I think he was also hired because he could act and because he felt like the character on and off the screen.
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Post by eccentricbeing on Apr 4, 2011 16:34:04 GMT -5
I wonder if the internet was rampant in 1970 like it is now, would people feel the same way with Lazenby like how people feel with Routh in this thread? Because I kinda see that here. But then again, Lazenby walked away from the role.
I'm not taking anything away from anybody here, just making an observation.
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Post by Conor on Apr 4, 2011 16:38:00 GMT -5
8-)Not going to compare until I see MOS in at the movies at least twice. If the movie is excellent will I prefer Cavill? Not sure. I'll try picture both actors in both movies then compare but it's pointless until we see him in action.
Wouldn't it be cool if Routh was recast as Superman in the JLA movie?!? Everyone wins!!
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Post by Jack Tripper on Apr 4, 2011 16:45:03 GMT -5
stargazer, is that you laughing in the background?
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 4, 2011 17:34:55 GMT -5
. Watching Requiem for Krypton makes it hard to forgive the company that shafted Brandon Routh just because they didn't want to confuse the laypeople, who will only see the new movie once in passing & who don't even care or give a fuck anyway. I disagree. I think he was also hired because he could act and because he felt like the character on and off the screen. these are facts: the "company", that is WB, did NOT directly hire OR fire routh. WB hired McG to direct a superman movie. McG found brandon routh and had him screen test/audition. when McG couldn't/wouldn't fly to Sydney he quit. McG did not hire brandon routh.(there was talk of josh hartnett and ashton kutcher) WB hired bryan singer to make a superman movie. bryan singer threw out everything except the routh audition. bryan singer hired brandon routh to play superman in a movie. when the sequel to SR was discussed at least most of the blame for the negotiations falling apart has to lain at singer's feet. yes, WB had unrealisitc expectations, but singer fumbled. WB did not fire singer, he quit. WB did not fire routh. he was hired for a film, he made the film. the job ended. WB hired chris nolan to make another superman film. chris nolan hired henry cavill. chris nolan did not "fire " routh. chris nolan hired another new actor to play superman. just as singer hired an actor to play superman. to suggest that nolan was somehow obligated to hire routh would like saying he was obligated to hire george clooney to play batman in batman begins. this is observation: people will like what they like. if you like routh. fine. if you like welling, fine. this is opinion: if you want to HATE cavill because he's not routh, fine. but cavill is superman. he is. for at least this one movie. maybe more. so HATE cavill. hate all day. blame him. it's his fault. cavill is the reason routh is "fired". sure. that will help.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 4, 2011 17:35:46 GMT -5
8-)Not going to compare until I see MOS in at the movies at least twice. If the movie is excellent will I prefer Cavill? Not sure. I'll try picture both actors in both movies then compare but it's pointless until we see him in action. Wouldn't it be cool if Routh was recast as Superman in the JLA movie?!? Everyone wins!! we'd take it.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 4, 2011 17:38:11 GMT -5
I wonder if the internet was rampant in 1970 like it is now, would people feel the same way with Lazenby like how people feel with Routh in this thread? Because I kinda see that here. But then again, Lazenby walked away from the role. I'm not taking anything away from anybody here, just making an observation. interesting. personally i like lazenby. OHMSS is in my top-5 bond flicks. but lazenby didn't need the internet to get raked over the coals or to have his own cult. ;D no one wants to follow connery, but to follow the guy who followed connery is roger moore.
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 4, 2011 19:00:54 GMT -5
My opinion, based on interviews that I have watched with cavill, stands. It stands until he changes my mind. Its early in the game, & thus far, I'm very unimpressed every time he speaks.
Thats my honest opinion.
Sorry that you have trouble with it.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Apr 4, 2011 19:07:37 GMT -5
My opinion, based on interviews that I have watched with cavill, stands. It stands until he changes my mind. Its early in the game, & thus far, I'm very unimpressed every time he speaks. Thats my honest opinion. Sorry that you have trouble with it. your opinons are never less than honest. blunt, vulgar, reactionary, yes. but honest. much like....me.
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Post by MAVERICK on Apr 4, 2011 19:20:31 GMT -5
Like I said, I'll let you know when cavill impresses me.
The rest of the cast does.
Not him.
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Post by ger-el on Apr 4, 2011 19:58:50 GMT -5
I'm not very impressed with the cast right now. I like Diane Lane, but can't see her as Ma Kent. Kevin Costner hasn't done anything worthwhile in a long time. Amy Adams is a good actress, but I can't see her as Lois Lane. I don't think she fits the mold. Henry Cavill...I just keep thinking of him in "The Count of Monte Cristo." He was so whiny in the role. Right now, I am less than impressed.
I know Routh is gone now, and I thought he was the best thing about SR (which I enjoyed). A big problem in that movie was that some of that cast was miscast, and also the lack of some action. It would be cool to see Routh in a good Justice League movie. That would be a great consolation prize for those of us who enjoyed Routh, and there are MANY of us.
I am just not very optimistic about this new movie. Maybe something will change my mind. I hope so.
On a side note, I thought Rachel McAdams would have been a nice choice for Lois Lane.
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