MAN of STEEL 2 - wishlist

[Jor-L5150]

TRY to be realistic hahahaha

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Personally, what I want, is I think entirley plausible as to narrative - but probably falls under "too good to be true"
1) precredits sequence, maybe 15 minutes of general zod in his prime driving brainiac away from krypton. Get shannon back make him look a bit younger.
Maybe brainiac is responsible for the lost colonies,
Intro so supergirl.
2) brainiac as a way to introduce the wider, cosmic dcu.
How monkeyspanking awesome would it be to see brainiac attack THANAGAR on his way to earth? Seeing an armada of hawkmen taking on brainiac drones would be the gateway for hawkmen/man/woman to be in justice league...
Make thanagar a scifi egypt, stargate like, go all ancient aliens with it.
Maybe thanagar has a bone to pick with krypton?
3) brainiacs arrival adds momentum to luthors agenda against superman...

[atp]

I want a Godfather-2-style split.

Half the movie with Cavill as Superman, set after MoS.

Half the movie with Russell Crowe as Jor-El and Shannon as Zod.

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Luthor offers to rebuild the section of the city that was demolished by the gravity beam, he tries to blame it all on Superman.

One other villain to partner luthor and keep the action up and veer away from the bank robbers and cat rescues.

More character development, more extended dialogue, really use Adams talents to their fullest this time.

I was going to say really stretch Cavill's range but that's a given now we have the daily planet stuff available to use.

Most important thing for me, big build ups to some rescues, Cavill tearing out of the daily planet or wherever, transforming himself into Superman and doing his thing.

[El Presidente]

A FUN adventure.

[atp]

That Trailer 3 music had better be Superman's main theme in MoS2. It was wasted the way it was used in MoS.

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It wasn't wasted. It built up to it. He earned it. Like Bond.

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[crazy_asian_man]

A crazy asian man wishlist:

-Linear structure. Start with Brainiac/Zod/Jor-el --- using the material from the "Secret Origins" flashback.

-Fire Snyder's editor. Hire Stuart Baird to edit- his editing on GI Joe probably made that watchable. (And it looks like nothing could have saved Green Lantern, so I give him a pass on that one)

-No more desaturation. Tired enough of it as it is in other films. Save it for low-budget or fan made superhero films, where you're trying to hide the fact there's no budget! Yeeesh!
Speaking of which....

-Destroy all those damned steadicams and bite the bullet on the cost and at least buy ONE damn tripod--- even if you have to buy it from Walmart!

-Cast a supergirl as charismatic as Helen Slater in her youth, or don't bother

-Have Jenny Olsen disappear before the opening credits, and never spoken of again.

-Increase Superman's strength, slow down his superspeed capabilities

-Enough of the 'bam!' sound each time Superman has to fly. He doesn't ALWAYS have to go a thousand miles an hour--- it also makes the flying boring and repetitive, honestly.

-Get Cavill some shorts. Red ones. and a belt.

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I'm only interested in certain characters, plot devices, or whatever to allow the film to pose some new questions about the nature of this character and how his appearance will affect the world in the short-term and long-term basis. So ...

1. An introduction of Luthor as a plot device to obviously rebuild the city. But, his character should fuel the themes of paranoia, fear, and racism. Superman is an alien and cannot be trusted. His existence on Earth has endangered us all. Obviously, Superman has a lot of work to do with his public image as a guy who kind of led to the destruction of a small town and a large portion of a city. Does he misuse his position at the Planet to influence coverage of Superman? Does his already-established relationship with Lois and her involvement in the events of the first film place her in a conflict of interest to even cover Superman for the Planet? It could help flesh out her character, as well as Perry's. Some of that was explored in the first movie, if you think back to the scenes in which she finds a way to get her story out and is busted. Perry is obviously more complex than chomping cigars and yelling at people. He's shown he's willing to bury the truth for the sake of not inciting the public to panic. Interesting choices to be made with the Planet staff.

2. I wouldn't mind seeing John Corben on the big screen. Make his turn to Metallo a tragic downfall, like was done with Harvey Dent in "The Dark Knight." It doesn't have to be for this movie, either. But, if he does go full Metallo, he's another way to explore a person's duality without all that focus on Kal-El. How much humanity can you retain if you're a machine.

3. Building trust and building a family. How does he function and work with figures of authority, who may or may not have sinister motives to exploit his powers for a political or social agenda? Will they start to rely on him too much? Do they expect him to solve things like famine and disease? Also, if the seeds were really sown for Kara, how does he deal with the fact he is not truly alone? And who's to say Kara is a good person? There's a lot of interesting material to be mined from Loeb's Superman/Batman run, in which he re-introduced the real Kara Zor-El. Will they get along? Will they fall into a sibling rivalry? There's all kinds of stuff to explore.

[crazy_asian_man]

I'm only interested in certain characters, plot devices, or whatever to allow the film to pose some new questions about the nature of this character

Agreed.... the thing is- judging by the slivers we have of Superman's background- and his choices- we have hints as to who he is, but it's more about him being a loner and drifter most of his life so far- with a curse of cautious paranoia.

The basis of Jonathan's death is to teach Superman to distrust mankind in general- and to remind him that his survival is important at all costs.

This Superman might not be the Dark Knight- but his emotional scars kind of make him the Distrusting Knight.

Is this the first stage of Superman eventually being the optimistic hopeful guy- or is Superman's general distrust/ suspicion of mankind's nature just going to be a dominant character trait from now on?
--- and if it is... is it a step forward or a concession to a generally cynical audience?

[Jack Tripper]

1 - More character development.
2 - More heart.
3 - More joy. I don't want to see any more somberness from Superman. You're Superman. Get over it. 
4 - Better flying sequences.
5 - I want to see more holy shit moments. There were only 2 in MOS for me and they were the way Faora moved when fighting and Superman snapping Zod's neck.
6 - Pull the camera back during the fight scenes. If there's anything that MOS & Transformers actually have in common, it's the camera being way too close to the characters during fight scenes. It was so quick and close that it was hard to tell what was going on in some shots.
7 - Brighten up the color of the movie a little bit. That blue tint color correction in movies got old a long time ago. Superman's a colorful character. USE COLOR.
8 - Please create a musical theme for Superman. A recurring one.
9 - Linear story. No more flashbacks.
10 - Scale down the action. Make it more intimate. More one on one.
11 - Brighten up the suit. The red cape was nice but everything else was a little too dark. Also, if you're gonna make the yellow such an ugly dirty color, why even use it? It was like this pale, ugly looking gray poupon color. Just scrap it.I actually think the suit would look pretty much perfect if it looked like this promotional image. The blue is a little brighter. The red is vibrant and the yellow is gone. Also lose the leg stripes. They're not needed. They don't look bad around the waist though. 

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Jun 17, 2013 0:05:22 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

I'm only interested in certain characters, plot devices, or whatever to allow the film to pose some new questions about the nature of this character

Agreed.... the thing is- judging by the slivers we have of Superman's background- and his choices- we have hints as to who he is, but it's more about him being a loner and drifter most of his life so far- with a curse of cautious paranoia.

The basis of Jonathan's death is to teach Superman to distrust mankind in general- and to remind him that his survival is important at all costs.

This Superman might not be the Dark Knight- but his emotional scars kind of make him the Distrusting Knight.

Is this the first stage of Superman eventually being the optimistic hopeful guy- or is Superman's general distrust/ suspicion of mankind's nature just going to be a dominant character trait from now on?
--- and if it is... is it a step forward or a concession to a generally cynical audience?

Yep, agreed. I think it'll continue to build on issues of trust and not being such of a loner. Can he walk a line between trusting people or keeping them at arm's length? Is there a middle ground? Or it least this theme should continue to be a basis of the character. Learning which people are to be trusted is something we all deal with.

My interpretation is that he is learning to trust, "taking a leap of faith," and we already saw that in multiple ways: confiding in Lois at the cemetery, working with the military leaders, and then putting a shit load of trust in Lois to not out his ass when he shows up to be her cubicle buddy.

Now, some of the things I wrote about would help play into exploring new facets of trust: showing the varied responses of the people, meeting another Kryptonian in Kara and learning another angle of family, etc.

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Most of these changes would just streer it back towards the donnerverse I feel.

I hope he never gets the trunks back. One thing I think they were right to do away with.

The main thing for me is big rescues with a big build up, superman getting their just in time kind of theme.

[Jor-L5150]

not that it necessarily has to mean anything, but goyers MOS prequel comics was absolutely about supergirl.

maybe we'll get some sort of "public enemies" adaptation with luthor ginning up anti-superman views and the intro of supergirl.

id like to see saoirse ronan, or elle fanning as supergirl. they can actually ACT, and they are not pin-ups in a sexy bewbies way- but in a more elegant beauty sort of way.

[Metallo]

I'd want pretty much what everyone else has already said. More fun. Less filters and tinting. Less shakey cam during flying and action sequences. More character development. Like ATP Id love once flashback. Specifically Jor-El and Zod working together to stop Brainiac from destroying Krypton. This could set him up as the villain later on in MOS 2. Maybe it could play out that Zod wasn't the only one that received the beacon Clark activated.

[Keith]

• Brainiac or Metallo and bring in Luthor
• Introduce Batman or Wonder Woman (preferably Batman... Could do a Kryptonite angle where Batman saves Superman from Metallo.)
• A bit more fun, little more humor
• brighten up the colors, The "S" means hope so brighten the colors up on the suit a little more so it's not so "dark"
• More Daily Planet Clark & Lois together.
• A little bit more wire work for takeoffs and landings.. less hard landing and takeoffs..
• Introduce Kara
• 3 hour movie more time to flesh everything out..

[SupermanUF]

A more cerebral story.

To again follow the Nolan Bat-progression, the next film will probably have two villains and be slightly more cerebral. Luthor and Brainiac.

I wouldn't be surprised if Luthor was the Harvey Dent type character, a likable guy at first.

[cypher85]

I would love to see Metallo. Actually just ape the S:TAS episode introducing metallo. Introduce Lex also.

[Knight]

Superman speaking several different languages at some point during the film. More stuff on Krypton, have Jor-El and Zod actually getting along ''you have been known to disagree with the Counsel before'' sort of thing... I'd like to see how The Kent's discovered the crashed ship and finding baby Kal-El. Some new enemies that we haven't seen on the big screen before, yea, sure, have Luthor but I want more.

[Jor-L5150]

Jun 17, 2013 11:56:33 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I'd want pretty much what everyone else has already said. More fun. Less filters and tinting. Less shakey cam during flying and action sequences. More character development. Like ATP Id love once flashback. Specifically Jor-El and Zod working together to stop Brainiac from destroying Krypton. This could set him up as the villain later on in MOS 2. Maybe it could play out that Zod wasn't the only one that received the beacon Clark activated.

Exactly!

[cypher85]

Zod was good, but let's move on. I don't want to see Zod in the sequel.

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Word is that WB is pushing for MOS 2 to come out NEXT YEAR.

Here's a wish:

DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN.

I want to wait for a good Superman movie, not quickly get a lame one.

[Jor-L5150]

Jun 17, 2013 17:05:04 GMT -5 @ucfkevin said:

Word is that WB is pushing for MOS 2 to come out NEXT YEAR.

Here's a wish:

DON'T LET THAT HAPPEN.

I want to wait for a good Superman movie, not quickly get a lame one.

i heard that too.
not even close to plausible. mathematically impossible.

[theoj]

December 2014 possible but highly unlikely.
Most probably June 2015.

I want to see what they do with Clark in the Daily Planet.
I want to see the interaction between that Clark and Lois.
I don't want to see Lex Luthor.
I don't want to see the introduction of any other superheroes in this universe. Superman is BACK so keep it going, no need for anyone else, not even Batman.
Brainiac is the most plausible choice for MOS 2.
Doomsday the best choice for MOS 3 (Death of Superman story or if you really have to, then make it the major plot line to the Justice League movie).

Isn't it great to know we will have new Superman movies in cinemas for the next 5 or 6 years at least!

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What's more likely to happen in Summer 2015: Man of Steel 2 or Episode VII?

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Here's something to ponder about this series:

Kal-El was launched long before Krypton exploded, and he was sent through a wormhole. So, fragments of Krypton would not have followed him to Earth. This series could exist without any use of Kryptonite as a plot device.

Now, you say, well, Brad, you fucking idiot. How does your Tragedy of John Corben storyline work now? There's no Kryptonite for his heart? Simple. Lex Luthor steals fragments of the destroyed Kryptonian world engine as part of his clean-up effort. Just like after 9/11. He has a team of scientists reverse engineer the tech to form the basis of the Metallo alloy and the super-soldier program. Yeah, I know people would cry out about references to Iron Man. That's why you avoid the battle suit idea and go straight to cyborg. Instead of a Kryptonite-powered heart, his heart is powered by something else of Kryptonian tech. Re-engineered world-engine tech or something. heck, there's the basis in the first move, as Zod explained he converted the Phantom Zone dohickey into something else. The movie logic is in place.

I'm a genius. Suck it.