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Post by atp on Jul 20, 2013 14:51:41 GMT -5
Try to answer honestly. Please.
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Post by bizzaro72 on Jul 20, 2013 19:10:58 GMT -5
Surely that must be a big no because there was absolutely no time when Henry cavill was actually flŷing .i mean Snyder mentioned that the wire work in this film was minimal
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 19:12:11 GMT -5
You'll be disappointed when you find out that Reeve couldn't really fly either, he was just on wires  |
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Post by bizzaro72 on Jul 20, 2013 19:21:42 GMT -5
Yeah but atleast they made him look like he was flying
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Post by Jimbo on Jul 20, 2013 19:56:24 GMT -5
MOS made me believe a man could fly.
Through buildings.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jul 20, 2013 19:58:22 GMT -5
Just.
Fucking.
Stop.
Stop it.
You are KILLiNG this board.
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Post by Rod on Jul 20, 2013 20:01:35 GMT -5
here and then it was ok but not in general.
it made me believe a man could blur.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 20:08:22 GMT -5
They should shut down, stick on STM and go and have a cry wank about the fact no-one's ever going to do the big blue boy scout dangling on wires for 1hr 30 mins again
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jul 20, 2013 20:28:05 GMT -5
They should shut down, stick on STM and go and have a cry wank about the fact no-one's ever going to do the big blue boy scout dangling on wires for 1hr 30 mins again heck I'm still pissed they don't jump-cut to shabby black and white cel-animation for the flying scenes. That part where he kicks his legs like a swimmer...that makes it. I can't believe they're not doing it that way. Hacks. |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 20, 2013 20:44:04 GMT -5
Sure he could fly...in all his shakey cam glory!
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 20, 2013 21:52:35 GMT -5
MOS made me believe a man could fly. Through buildings.   |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 20, 2013 23:08:11 GMT -5
MoS made me believe that they could spend $225 million for the same type of flying fx we got on Smallville.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 8:56:23 GMT -5
MoS made me believe that they could spend $225 million for the same type of flying fx we got on Smallville. They were closer to the shots in SR (which i really liked 80% of the time). Only it didn't have any really bad full CGI close ups like this   adding this one just for giggles  |
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 21, 2013 16:28:22 GMT -5
Ha, you would like that last pic, Kris.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 16:43:16 GMT -5
yeah the chick in the background is hot
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Post by Metallo on Jul 21, 2013 16:47:59 GMT -5
Mos made me believe a man could fly. Just not past $300 million domestic.
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 21, 2013 16:57:49 GMT -5
Tell me about it.
I just checked.
It dropped from #10 to #15 in a week.
AND it's definitely going to be overtaken by Despicable Me 2 next week.
Another friend announced on Facebook that they saw it but left a lot to be desired.
Yeah, Batman is an attempt at damage control. They don't want to reboot, but they don't think Superman can fly on its own. They also don't think MOS brought in enough new fans probably.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 21, 2013 17:31:22 GMT -5
There were some artistic flying shots in SR, but overall, very LITTLE of the action in SR did I think was well done. The drama was fantastic, the action was not great, outside of parts of the airplane rescue in the beginning.
MOS feels like it had some great action ideas, but the superspeed kills any 'high' that could have been gotten from it. I would have greatly preferred Snyder to have stuck to his slo-mo and speed ramping by comparison. I bash his other films, but thought the action was great in them. Realistic super speed? Perhaps, but at the expense of really enjoying what it would feel like to be Superman in a battle like that.
MOS I'm not singling out, though. The beginning of Spiderman 3 also is too darn fast to enjoy and just felt like a sped-up videogame. SII's action sequences (what little there were) may be considered too slow by today's standards, but MOS's action moves too fast. I know Snyder can create an awesome action sequence, I'm hoping that at least he'll do that for MOS 2.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 21, 2013 17:33:04 GMT -5
I don't know- if they have a good enough story, then anything's forgiveable--- but on the surface, it certainly looks like they don't have confidence that a standalone MOS sequel is enough....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 17:43:03 GMT -5
It's not damage control atall.
They're just desperate to work Batman in so they can ready Justice League and attempt to start catching up with Marvel!
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 21, 2013 17:46:03 GMT -5
Suuuuuuure.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 21, 2013 17:51:28 GMT -5
Tell me about it. I just checked. It dropped from #10 to #15 in a week. AND it's definitely going to be overtaken by Despicable Me 2 next week. Another friend announced on Facebook that they saw it but left a lot to be desired. Yeah, Batman is an attempt at damage control. They don't want to reboot, but they don't think Superman can fly on its own. They also don't think MOS brought in enough new fans probably. Yeah I think you're right. WB knows this is the best way to get people more excited about another superman movie AND a way to rush Batman back onto movie screens faster. Fastest road to JLA. And I bet its WBs idea not Snyder's. they can say otherwise but all those guys were talking about developing Superman further. Not using it to intro a new Batman. Not only that but they're letting it be know early so they can build up the hype machine early. And maybe spike MOSs current bo numbers a bit I figured MOS would crawl to 300 mil but it looks like its not even going to do that unless WB has it play for ages just like SR did to crawl over the line. Ya gotta think WB was hoping for more with MOS right? |
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 21, 2013 18:05:18 GMT -5
I would think so, Metallo.
This was marketed as a Superman film with Christopher Nolan's name attached. It was supposed to be Superman's big comeback into a respectable action franchise, and Nolan's name added to those expectations.
The initial explosion during its first week at the boxoffice was great, but the 60 some odd percent drop off the following week means ONE THING and ONE THING ONLY: word-of-mouth wasn't strong enough.
Yeah, some poeple loved it, some people hated it, but MOST people seem to be lukewarm. I can remember word-of-mouth for Batman Begins was very, very strong. I can remember word-of-mouth being very strong for X2, Spiderman 2, and TDK.
Man of Steel was ABSOLUTELY missing that buzz. It did have it UP TO RELEASE TIME, but it unquestionably lost it.
I don't think even MOS's strongest supporters can deny that.
Batman being added is damage control. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 18:14:20 GMT -5
Word of mouth was strong for BB?
Not where I was it wasn't.
MOS has done better than BB as a reboot.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 21, 2013 18:14:33 GMT -5
Exactly. Even Iron man had a lot of talk that built up and up. I'm not seeing as much of that with MOS. somebody here called MOS front loaded and I think they were right. Interest was so high becuse it was a reboot that LOOKED different and Nolans name as attached.
Then everybody saw it. Some loved it. Some were kinda cold to it. People split. I guess you could say it was becuse it was a reboot and all that shit but even Star Trek 09 had MUCH stronger talk after release and I didn't like it but its true. and Trek was a lot more tired and unpopular than Superman before the reboots. I haven't seen that same level of post release buzz with MOS. Yeah...I gotta think WBs hopes were much higher even if they weren't realistic. They certainly had to expect over 300 mil domestic considering how much of their machine they threw behind it.
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