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Post by EnriqueH on Aug 24, 2013 19:54:09 GMT -5
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Post by eccentricbeing on Aug 24, 2013 20:09:34 GMT -5
Afflecks not as old as Brolin but he will be he oldest guy to ever wear the batsuit in an official production. He's older than Keaton Actually, Affleck is the same age as Keaton when Keaton was in Batman Returns. |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Aug 24, 2013 20:10:52 GMT -5
Everybody? Uh...what the heck are you talking about. And um, I didn't say "everybody". I just didn't include you. |
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Post by Metallo on Aug 24, 2013 20:17:24 GMT -5
Everybody? Uh...what the heck are you talking about. And um, I didn't say "everybody". I just didn't include you. Forgive me. You said NO ONE. How could "no one" have batted an eyelash when I and a few others brought up the point of Brolins age when he was being rumored? A few people pointed it out early on even here. |
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Post by Metallo on Aug 24, 2013 20:20:54 GMT -5
Afflecks not as old as Brolin but he will be he oldest guy to ever wear the batsuit in an official production. He's older than Keaton Actually, Affleck is the same age as Keaton when Keaton was in Batman Returns. I meant when they were FIRST cast. I've even clarified that before in the various threads this has been brought up. Maybe not today but I've said it in this same topic. Keaton was about 37 going on 38 when Batman was released. Younger when he was cast. Afflecks the oldest live action guy first cast. Lewis Wilson was the youngest. Keaton was about 40 when Batman Returns FILMED in 1991. Affleck is 41 NOW before filming begins so even then Keaton was younger. |
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Post by Metallo on Aug 24, 2013 20:28:52 GMT -5
You're assuming those rumors are true and i find it hard to believe he'd stick with it for 15 years. Even all The actors that have signed for marvel aren't signed up that long. The difference is those actors have been doing multiple films in a shorter period of time. RDJ made two film appearances as Stark in 2008 alone. and anything could happen between now and "then" so I wouldn't count on a big name like Affleck sticking it out for that long when none of his predecessors did. Maybe he will but maybe not. I said "if", I don't consider that assuming the stories are true. I have no idea what the plans hold. I was just making a statement on how Affleck's age shouldn't be a factor. These days 41 isn't all that old, and a person can stay in great shape into their mid 60's with the time,money and opportunity a person like Affleck has available. Also the fact that at 41, IF the stories are true within that time frame he'd be the right age for TDKR. But that's wishful thinking, let's face it. Hollywood/viewers/tastes... it all changes. This comic book craze started in the early 2000's and really picked up steam in the mid 2000's. I think WB is getting in on the tail end of the game, I seriously doubt no matter what the contract states that this current trend is going to last another 15 years. At some point people are going to get tired of the comic book films the same way they got tired of buddy cop films, Stallone/Arnold style action films and every other trend in the past. Someone online called Afflecks casting "90s comic book movie casting" and that's been one of the best descriptions I've read. I agree, it defiantly is the "safest" comic book casting in a long while. I think what it boils down to is his casting seems to have been done for all the wrong reasons... Not because he was perfect for the role, but because he is probably seen as a box office insurance policy for the studio, and that Affleck probably is getting something else out of the deal (like a directing deal of the like). In the past 10 years we have seen several major character roles go to actors who were not really Box Office openers. Bale, RDJ, BR, HC were all well known actors, but none were considered huge stars. RDJ was more famous for his lifestyle than film roles at that point, regardless of the praise he got for Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang it didn't make much money at all. Affleck is on a roll as an actor/director, and coming off an oscar WB will sure to blast him name everywhere. His age isn't just about how he looks but what he wants to do later on in his career when his leading man status begins to wind down. Younger actors are more willing to commit because what else do they have to lose? The thing is at this stage Batman doesn't NEED to be a big star. |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Aug 24, 2013 21:24:27 GMT -5
Actually, Affleck is the same age as Keaton when Keaton was in Batman Returns. I meant when they were FIRST cast. I've even clarified that before in the various threads this has been brought up. Maybe not today but I've said it in this same topic. Keaton was about 37 going on 38 when Batman was released. Younger when he was cast. Afflecks the oldest live action guy first cast. Lewis Wilson was the youngest. Keaton was about 40 when Batman Returns FILMED in 1991. Affleck is 41 NOW before filming begins so even then Keaton was younger. Younger by a year or two. It's so trivial, though. While Batman is no Ironman, Robert Downey Jr was 43 when the first one came out and will be 53 when his last Avengers movie comes out. I seriously think Affleck's age is irrelevant. |
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Post by Metallo on Aug 24, 2013 23:43:48 GMT -5
I meant when they were FIRST cast. I've even clarified that before in the various threads this has been brought up. Maybe not today but I've said it in this same topic. Keaton was about 37 going on 38 when Batman was released. Younger when he was cast. Afflecks the oldest live action guy first cast. Lewis Wilson was the youngest. Keaton was about 40 when Batman Returns FILMED in 1991. Affleck is 41 NOW before filming begins so even then Keaton was younger. Younger by a year or two. It's so trivial, though. While Batman is no Ironman, Robert Downey Jr was 43 when the first one came out and will be 53 when his last Avengers movie comes out. I seriously think Affleck's age is irrelevant. Not so trivial when you tried to point they were the same age (when strictly speaking Keaton was still younger.)  Iron man and Batmans ages when dealing with actors aren't all that comparable because who the characters are and what they do isn't exactly the same. Batmans a character more concerned with physicality than Iron Man. Stark could be 80 and climb in that suit. Batmans usually a man in his physical prime and at his peak if we aren't dealing with "the last great Batman adventure". He doesn't always use powered armor to enhance himself and when he does its only when he has to. Entire shows and episodes have delt with the issue of an aging Batman and how that affects what he does. Batman can only do what he does for a short time before the wear and tear begins to show if we are comparing their superhero careers Considering Stark is an experienced captain of industry WHEN he begins his career as Iron Man it makes sense he'd be a bit older than Batman when he makes his debut. He was already the Howard Hughes of his world in a lot of ways long before he put on the suit. It's not just about the characters but the actors longevity in the role. A better comparison than iron man would be Captain America and Marvel actually thought long term and didn't just say "hey casting a 40 year old isn't a big deal". If Evans sticks around for a while what he looks like at 50 sure as shit isn't going to be an issue yet in ten or even fifteen years. That's Marvel thinking long term where WB has failed time and again. . As for iron man... Downey doesn't even wear a whole fully built suit as Iron Man. The works pretty easy physically speaking compared to Batman even thought the Batmen don't do much stuff physically. Iron Mans even cgi a lot of the time. It's a younger mans game when it comes to certain superhero roles. That's why Jackmans had such longevity and even he says its not as easy anymore to train. Compared to a lot of superhero actors was younger when he first played Wolverine. It's also why Reeve could look pretty good even after a decade of playing Superman. He still could have gone for years before he really aged out. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 23:59:57 GMT -5
Wonder how everyone will feel when the actual movie comes out? Ah, no I dont. Everyone who is pissed about the casting will hate it regardless.
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Post by Metallo on Aug 25, 2013 0:03:18 GMT -5
If the movie blows the yeah they will and I can see why. If its great an Affleck does great ill be cheering him just like everyone else. I don't even hate the casting but its pretty "meh."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 0:10:40 GMT -5
Okay, understood.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 0:16:19 GMT -5
You know, had Brolin been cast as the Bat, every retort to anything Superman could throw at him would have been: "Yeah, well, I'm fucking your mom!"
Chew on that.
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Post by Metallo on Aug 25, 2013 0:21:57 GMT -5
Well...if we go by Hollywoodland Batman STILL screwed his mom in another on screen life. The Highlander fucked Supermans mom too. Martha Kent gets around.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 0:54:42 GMT -5
Well...if we go by Hollywoodland Batman STILL screwed his mom in another on screen life. The Highlander fucked Supermans mom too. Martha Kent gets around. Mind=blown.  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 25, 2013 0:55:11 GMT -5
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Aug 25, 2013 14:43:35 GMT -5
Wonder how everyone will feel when the actual movie comes out? Ah, no I dont. Everyone who is pissed about the casting will hate it regardless. Sent from my SPH-D710 using proboards And watch it make a bajillion dollars but still be called "failure". |
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Post by atp on Aug 25, 2013 14:46:36 GMT -5
Funny how 40 is no big deal these days.
Connery stopped at age 41 after DAF because he was too old for Bond. And he looked it too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 15:23:18 GMT -5
It's the new 30.
40 ain't what it used to be, for damn sure. We as a species are beginning to mutate, I believe. We're starting to look younger for longer. I mean, when I was a kid, even a teenager, really, 40 year olds were OLD. Christ, even 30 year olds were old. Not really the case anymore. Age is getting very hard to determine. hecks bells, I can't even look at chicks under the age of 25 or so, they all look like little kids to me now. I didn't expect that. A girl could be 21 but I'll see her as 15 and therefore won't even bother Terminator-scanning.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 15:30:35 GMT -5
It's the new 30. 40 ain't what it used to be, for damn sure. We as a species are beginning to mutate, I believe. We're starting to look younger for longer. I mean, when I was a kid, even a teenager, really, 40 year olds were OLD. Christ, even 30 year olds were old. Not really the case anymore. Age is getting very hard to determine. hecks bells, I can't even look at chicks under the age of 25 or so, they all look like little kids to me now. I didn't expect that. A girl could be 21 but I'll see her as 15 and therefore won't even bother Terminator-scanning. |
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Post by ye5man on Aug 25, 2013 16:44:26 GMT -5
Funny how 40 is no big deal these days. Connery stopped at age 41 after DAF because he was too old for Bond. And he looked it too. Nonsense. He quit because he hated Saltzman, fell out with Cubby and grew bored. NSNA? I agree with you guys about age. 40 year old women in the 80s were middle aged. Now look at the likes of Jenny Aniston. Look at Downey Jnr. Late 40s now and still looks great. Late 40s 30 years ago was well past the prime. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 18:37:46 GMT -5
I can't say I'm thrilled with Affleck. I mean, what, a month ago we were wondering about Man of Steel 2, and now we've got a Batman-Superman flick with Ben Affleck involved? WB is rushing forward with this thing, lots to take in in a short amount of time.
I still have some bad memories of Affleck from the early 2000s- his performances always seemed like cut-rate Tom Cruise, alternating between mugging for the camera and "I'm taking softer because I'm being serious now." The fact he was in Pearl Harbor gives him a giant black mark on his permanent record. I do feel like the Ben Affleck of 2013 is a more mature, well-rounded artist than the one from 2003, though. Hollywoodland was an impressive "Hey, the kid's not so bad" performance, and he's been building on that ever since. He scrapped his way back into Hollywood's good graces, and I admire that. I love a good comeback story.
I'm not sure if it's a good fit, but I'm not getting my pitchfork out. Curious to see how it turns out.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 25, 2013 19:57:24 GMT -5
I saw Affleck in person at comicon when he was promoting Daredevil- very cool guy, very down to earth, and genuinely seemed like he was trying his best to please the fans in the movie- BUT.... (To me) he was wrong physically, and his presence felt wrong for Daredevil. I think it's the difference between casting someone that looks and feels just like you'd imagine the character- versus someone that gives a very good effort, but you need to add an extra sense of suspension of disbelief to it. Daniel Day Lewis and Robert DeNiro disappear so much into their roles, that I feel it only takes maybe a minute or two, and all past associations are erased with them. With someone like Tom Cruise, Bruce Willis, or Ben Affleck, I rarely see so much difference in their performances or mannerisms in each movie, that I feel like they've disappeared as well. What bothers me about this type of casting- is that i worry it'll encourage studios to go back into the direction of not wanting to take chances on unknowns for leads anymore on these superhero projects. Do we really want to see 'name' actors for the rest of the Justice League?  |
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Post by eccentricbeing on Aug 25, 2013 20:00:33 GMT -5
It's the new 30. 40 ain't what it used to be, for damn sure. We as a species are beginning to mutate, I believe. We're starting to look younger for longer. I mean, when I was a kid, even a teenager, really, 40 year olds were OLD. Christ, even 30 year olds were old. Not really the case anymore. Age is getting very hard to determine. hecks bells, I can't even look at chicks under the age of 25 or so, they all look like little kids to me now. I didn't expect that. A girl could be 21 but I'll see her as 15 and therefore won't even bother Terminator-scanning. I see IDs of females everyday. A LOT look older than what's on the ID. It's rather scary. Once they pass 18, they age. (and no, they're not fake IDs. I have means to know they're not fake.) Men, on the other hand, are the opposite. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 25, 2013 20:04:02 GMT -5
There was a science article not too long ago that theorized that a lot of the chemicals in food are resulting in kids reaching puberty much faster now, than in times past. I think Kevin might not be wrong in saying that the human race in general may be mutating to a degree...
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Post by Metallo on Aug 25, 2013 21:04:12 GMT -5
I like Affleck personally and felt he got a bum rap ten years ago. He's not a guy that disappears into roles but he can still be good. Great sometimes. Hopefully he does well but he's so famous and so...himself...it might be hard to look past the fact that its Ben Affleck. He was an ok daredevil but not really exceptional.
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