Ben Affleck IS Batman...?

[Deleted]

Argo fuck yourselves.

(That's all I got.)

[Deleted]

Oh, wait, I had a smart ass idea ...

For the costume, let's dress him up as a physiologically correct bat. Like a bat with fur on the costume and the big wide ears. But, mainly the fur. He can be a Furry. Cuz that's never been done and would drive debate. Furries. You probably know one but just don't know it. heck, here in Boise, there was a news story about a guy who's a Furry who was arrested for sodomizing a real cat. People are fucked up, but they have the right to that shit as long as it's not fucking animals, right?

[ShogunLogan]

Ben Affleck as Batman doesn't seem too bad to me.

It's Matt Damon as Robin that worries me.

[Jack Tripper]

Aug 23, 2013 15:05:10 GMT -5 Superclark69 said:

Just read that Cranston has been cast as Lex!

Where?

[Melv]

Yeah, that's certainly not official yet but it would make anyone complaining about Affleck stop in their tracks!

[atp]

will cavill have to settle for second billing?

[EnriqueH]

He may have to settle for third if they get Cranston.

[cypher85]

Yeah, not sure about Cranston 's casting yet, no reputable sites I've seen are saying anything about this.

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[crazy_asian_man]

will cavill have to settle for second billing?

As polite as Cavill seems to be, I wouldn't blame him if he's at all irked about how the sequel seems to be pushing him towards the back of the bus.... (Though to be fair, we haven't seen the script to know if this will be another Superman III scenario or not yet-)

[atp]

Aug 24, 2013 10:53:56 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

will cavill have to settle for second billing?

As polite as Cavill seems to be, I wouldn't blame him if he's at all irked about how the sequel seems to be pushing him towards the back of the bus.... (Though to be fair, we haven't seen the script to know if this will be another Superman III scenario or not yet-)

He's going to be IN the back of the bus. He'll see. What Affleck did.

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[Metallo]

Even though I think the Fleck is a bit too old for what WB Is doing at least he's a rugged looking leading man and not a baby faced pretty boy like Bloom of a lot of the other guys Hollywood tries to pimp as their new top stars. At the very least its going to be very interesting to see what Affleck looks like in the cowl and the suit and what they look like.

[eccentricbeing]

Aflleck is not too old. When Brolin's name came up, no one batted an eye lash with his age.

[Scissorpuppy]

Yeah, I don't think Affleck is too old. He takes care of himself and doesn't seem to be aging badly at all. If the rumors of a multi-picture long term deal are true, he'll be attached to Batman for the next 10-15 years... Making him in his late 50's, Just right for TDKR?

[Metallo]

Everybody? Uh...what the heck are you talking about. I and other people here pointed out the problems with Brolins longevity in the role at his age. I thought he'd be a good pick for what WB wanted but his age also worked against him for what they wanted. People here who considered Urban said the same thing about his age and his longevity if WB has bigger plans. Plus could swear I thought I said *I* think he's too old. For me yeah I think he is.

Afflecks not as old as Brolin but he will be he oldest guy to ever wear the batsuit in an official production. He's older than Keaton Kilmer and Clookey. He's certainly older than Bale. If it was a one off like Clooney his age wouldn't be as much of an issue but you seem to be ignoring that WB has huge plans beyond that. what about a solo Batman franchise? Is that scrapped? Is his just for a JL series? Is Affleck really going to commit for so much for so long after his career has see such a resurgence. I think those are valid questions.

[Metallo]

Aug 24, 2013 13:41:01 GMT -5 Scissorpuppy said:

Yeah, I don't think Affleck is too old. He takes care of himself and doesn't seem to be aging badly at all. If the rumors of a multi-picture long term deal are true, he'll be attached to Batman for the next 10-15 years... Making him in his late 50's, Just right for TDKR?

You're assuming those rumors are true and i find it hard to believe he'd stick with it for 15 years. Even all The actors that have signed for marvel aren't signed up that long. The difference is those actors have been doing multiple films in a shorter period of time. RDJ made two film appearances as Stark in 2008 alone.

and anything could happen between now and "then" so I wouldn't count on a big name like Affleck sticking it out for that long when none of his predecessors did. Maybe he will but maybe not.

[crazy_asian_man]

I think it's more of a 'could be worse' feeling- than a 'DAMN HE'D BE AWESOME!' feeling that I'm hearing-

Jack Nicholson certainly was famous before Joker, but I'm guessing people generally felt, 'yeah, he's a little pudgy, but he doesn't have to do much to convince us he's the Joker' for Batman '89, when he was cast. It maybe was one of the times that there didn't seem to be a lot of disagreement with casting a 'name' for a famous comic character.

I agree that there are those that could have felt worse on the surface (Orlando Bloom), but to me it's a letdown because I give Snyder big props for his Superman casting --- (I was suprised that I liked him as Superman)- and wanted to be equally thrilled with his casting another relative unknown for Batman --- or at least feel like he
made just as good a choice as the ideas that fans on this forum have thrown out (Wes Bentley I liked the best, I think).

But----
Outside of it all- I do agree that it seems like an incredibly weird choice for Ben to accept--- given that he's said he was done with playing superheroes years ago after Daredevil & that he's in such a highly respected spot as a director after the Oscars.

Maybe he needs the cash badly?

[Metallo]

Someone online called Afflecks casting "90s comic book movie casting" and that's been one of the best descriptions I've read.

[crazy_asian_man]

Another thought:

So, if Batfleck is the future of the reboot for Batman movies, the (maybe) JL movie, etc---- if rumors are true that it's a 6 picture deal (or something to that extent)---
Is Affleck THAT much of a comic book fan to put Batman movies as a priority over directing/producing his own works?

On that front, I'm pretty curious what type of negotiations Affleck's agent fought for- though maybe Robert Downey Jr's hefty paychecks might have convinced him: "If I do 3 Batmans and get $60 million, I could pay for Argo 2 WITHOUT any investors!'

Or- maybe being married to Jennifer Garner is REALLY expensive and she'd kill him if he didn't take the job?

[Scissorpuppy]

Aug 24, 2013 13:52:41 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Aug 24, 2013 13:41:01 GMT -5 Scissorpuppy said:

Yeah, I don't think Affleck is too old. He takes care of himself and doesn't seem to be aging badly at all. If the rumors of a multi-picture long term deal are true, he'll be attached to Batman for the next 10-15 years... Making him in his late 50's, Just right for TDKR?

You're assuming those rumors are true and i find it hard to believe he'd stick with it for 15 years. Even all The actors that have signed for marvel aren't signed up that long. The difference is those actors have been doing multiple films in a shorter period of time. RDJ made two film appearances as Stark in 2008 alone.

and anything could happen between now and "then" so I wouldn't count on a big name like Affleck sticking it out for that long when none of his predecessors did. Maybe he will but maybe not.

I said "if", I don't consider that assuming the stories are true. I have no idea what the plans hold. I was just making a statement on how Affleck's age shouldn't be a factor. These days 41 isn't all that old, and a person can stay in great shape into their mid 60's with the time,money and opportunity a person like Affleck has available. Also the fact that at 41, IF the stories are true within that time frame he'd be the right age for TDKR.

But that's wishful thinking, let's face it. Hollywood/viewers/tastes... it all changes. This comic book craze started in the early 2000's and really picked up steam in the mid 2000's. I think WB is getting in on the tail end of the game, I seriously doubt no matter what the contract states that this current trend is going to last another 15 years. At some point people are going to get tired of the comic book films the same way they got tired of buddy cop films, Stallone/Arnold style action films and every other trend in the past.

Aug 24, 2013 14:16:43 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Someone online called Afflecks casting "90s comic book movie casting" and that's been one of the best descriptions I've read.

I agree, it defiantly is the "safest" comic book casting in a long while. I think what it boils down to is his casting seems to have been done for all the wrong reasons... Not because he was perfect for the role, but because he is probably seen
as a box office insurance policy for the studio, and that Affleck probably is getting something else out of the deal (like a directing deal of the like). In the past 10 years we have seen several major character roles go to actors who were not really
Box Office openers. Bale, RDJ, BR, HC were all well known actors, but none were considered huge stars. RDJ was more famous for his lifestyle than film roles at that point, regardless of the praise he got for Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang it didn't make much money at all.
Affleck is on a roll as an actor/director, and coming off an oscar WB will sure to blast him name everywhere.

[Jor-L5150]

after heath ledger as the joker (a casting that had me completely befuddled at the outset, then proved to be brilliant) ive kept a very open mind about casting.

on paper, marlon brando, jack nicholson, ian mckeelan, etc don't scream "comic book".


affleck is a surprise choice, but he is a quality actor/director and i think he'll bring a lot of gravitas.
if we get cranston as lex ill be exuberant.

exciting times!

[crazy_asian_man]

affleck is a surprise choice, but he is a quality actor/director and i think he'll bring a lot of gravitas.
if we get cranston as lex ill be exuberant.

I have no doubt Affleck will give a 100% percent, but I also felt like Keaton did as well---

I think my worries are similar to what Mank said about his issue with Roger Moore cast as Bond- I forget the exact phrase, but something like "with Bond, you want someone who you could plausibly believe could be at a dinner table with a woman, and believe him if he kisses her or kills her. Connery has that. With Moore, you believe he could kiss her, but if you see him kill her, it comes off as mean-spirited."

With Wayne/Batman, I feel like any actor cast has to have an edge, and feel like he's slightly scary, or capable of great good or evil.

When Keaton screamed out, "You want crazy, I'll give you crazy. C'monnn... let's get crazy!"--- I didn't out and out laugh, but had a slight wince.... like I often do when I feel like the filmmakers/actors are TRYING and WANT you to have a certain reaction, but can't quite get there.

When Bale did his bits in "American Psycho"--- I thought he was scary and creepy as heck... and could see how/why he was a great choice for Wayne. (Though the choice to give him a sore throat I didn't care for at all, even though I get why he'd do it.)

Though Affleck gave his all in Daredevil, I went with it, but was hoping he would 'disappear' as Ben Affleck and BE 'Matt Murdock'--- much like Anthony Hopkins never looked like Nixon, but disappeared in that role in about 10 minutes going into that picture.... but the movie sort of worked, but Affleck still was Affleck giving a performance by the end of the picture--

Affleck feels like Tom Cruise to me in the sense that I think both are good actors, but I rarely feel like either one is a chameleon.... and neither one feels all that dangerous nor scary to me, despite their great work ethic.

My two cents...

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I don't know if Brolin is the kind of guy you get behind and cheer for. He comes off as a dick. Fuck him.

[crazy_asian_man]

I don't know if Brolin is the kind of guy you get behind and cheer for. He comes off as a dick. Fuck him.

Interesting.

I don't have as strong a reaction to Brolin, but I think he's also too much of a celeb and feels (to me) just wrong as Wayne/Batman as well....

[EnriqueH]

Trust me.

Affleck is the LEAST of this movie's problems.