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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 31, 2019 1:22:29 GMT -5
www.joblo.com/movie-news/warner-bros-announces-2021-release-dates-for-the-batman-and-suicide-squad-2So that will place its release about four years after Affleck’s last appearance as Batman in JL. About the same amount of time between Bales last appearance as Batman and Affleck’s first. Sounds about right as more proof that this will be a reboot. I’m fine with that. More time would be better but I’m also ready for something new and I don’t mean a prequel. I mean a clean break from Snyder. Suicide Squad....it’s so bad that WB basically salted the earth with that last f*ckin one. I love most of that lineup of the team from the comics but most of those versions of the characters just didn’t appeal to me because of the way they were executed and I’d have a hard time just forgetting that. I have no interest in seeing someone else try Juggalo Joker again. I hope Gunn gets to do totally new take. Even if it’s not new characters I want new actors, new designs, and a new story. If they want to say it’s a sequel fine but make it it’s own thing. With all the start/stops, and the now EXTREMELY confusing Justice League connections (if they choose to do a sequel with the original characters and not the same actors--- or even worse, reboot)- I've been saying this forever: just write Christian Bale a big fat check and figure out a way to meld it with the continuity (if possible) of the Nolan films for Batman. Suicide Squad has little interest for me, outside of James Gunn directing it. DC Super pets could be fun or a disaster, depending on the script/direction they take.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 2, 2019 18:20:40 GMT -5
Ya just know Super Pets is their response to Into The Spider-verse the same way Suicide Squad was their response to GOTG and Deadpool. If they ever did bring Bale back as Batman it’d be as a stand alone project and that would be the right call. The dceu is so uneven that there’s no way Nolan would want to tie to that. The signature series films or black label films or whatever they’re calling the side line of stand alone movies that Joker is a part of would be a good place to do it.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 3, 2019 12:43:54 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/the-batman-script-length-casting-talk/It’s going to be an interesting year. If I were Reeves I’d cast someone around 30ish. Maybe a little older. Reeves is doing a story about an established Batman. Not about a veteran but it’s not an origin story either. 30 gives time for an actor to do several films.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 3, 2019 23:50:45 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/the-batman-script-length-casting-talk/It’s going to be an interesting year. If I were Reeves I’d cast someone around 30ish. Maybe a little older. Reeves is doing a story about an established Batman. Not about a veteran but it’s not an origin story either. 30 gives time for an actor to do several films. To be honest, the detective work is the least interesting thing to me about Batman. Bale! Bring back BBBBBale!
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Post by Metallo on Feb 4, 2019 9:53:03 GMT -5
To me that’s his greatest power. His mind. It’s what sets him apart from guys like Punisher (besides...yknow...shooting people to death). We’ve never really seen it. Saw a little in Batman Begins and Batman Returns and arguably BvS but that’s it. We saw him do some forensics and ballistic work in other films but we’ve never really seen him go around unrevelling a mystery or solving a case with some hard work. They usually go for action and this is one way Reeves could set his film apart.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 5, 2019 0:58:29 GMT -5
To me that’s his greatest power. His mind. It’s what sets him apart from guys like Punisher (besides...yknow...shooting people to death). We’ve never really seen it. Saw a little in Batman Begins and Batman Returns and arguably BvS but that’s it. We saw him do some forensics and ballistic work in other films but we’ve never really seen him go around unrevelling a mystery or solving a case with some hard work. They usually go for action and this is one way Reeves could set his film apart. I'm open to it, but I think my disappointment comes from the riches of STM and the first two Nolan Batman films- where it felt like a 'history channel' documentary of sorts of the biggest highlights of these fictional heroes. Also, Batman has the most interesting rogues' gallery of all the comics. I don't think that they necessarily need or deserve their own movie (like Joker), but I do think not focusing on them is like leaving creative money on the table if the emphasis is the detective work. Still, I'm curious....
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Post by Metallo on Feb 5, 2019 10:27:29 GMT -5
Well you can still get that with a detective oriented Batman movie. If anything it could be more of documentary kind of documentary day in the life of type of film.
I think we will also see Batman’s rogues gallery. Detective story doesn’t mean he’s gonna deal with all normal criminals. If anything depending on the story we could see more of his rogues gallery than ever in one movie. If it’s some kind of whodunnit Batman’s rogues gallery makes for a huge number of suspects. The rumor is Arkham asylum might have something to do with the story so there’s more fuel for the speculation fire.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 5, 2019 15:43:08 GMT -5
Well you can still get that with a detective oriented Batman movie. If anything it could be more of documentary kind of documentary day in the life of type of film. I think we will also see Batman’s rogues gallery. Detective story doesn’t mean he’s gonna deal with all normal criminals. If anything depending on the story we could see more of his rogues gallery than ever in one movie. If it’s some kind of whodunnit Batman’s rogues gallery makes for a huge number of suspects. The rumor is Arkham asylum might have something to do with the story so there’s more fuel for the speculation fire. The psychological angle mixed in with the superheroics always fascinated me. If they approach it like ‘Hannibal’ the tv show, i could be more drawn in. Would also be fascinated if they go for an ‘R’ rating!
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Post by Metallo on Feb 5, 2019 18:01:20 GMT -5
That could be what the go for. I don’t really need an R but that’s just me. If it’s R rated it should be for the right reasons. Let the story and type of film dictate the rating not the other way around . If it turns out as an R fine but this can be done without an R rating.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 5, 2019 22:15:01 GMT -5
That could be what the go for. I don’t really need an R but that’s just me. If it’s R rated it should be for the right reasons. Let the story and type of film dictate the rating not the other way around . If it turns out as an R fine but this can be done without an R rating. RIght--- I also would want an R only for the right creative reasons. But, it would definitely wake people up to the idea that they were going for something different. I definitely give Fox credit for the 'R' rating for Logan.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 6, 2019 7:50:53 GMT -5
If they had the right project I’d be fine with it. It sounds like Joker should be R rated.
Of course doing it so late with a major character like a Batman just looks like them trying to copy what Fox has done. Suicide Squad already looked very reactionary to what other studios were doing instead of it being their own good idea.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 15, 2019 12:13:56 GMT -5
More confirmation, this time from Affleck’s own mouth, that he’s done playing Batman.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 15, 2019 13:14:30 GMT -5
More confirmation, this time from Affleck’s own mouth, that he’s done playing Batman. That was hilarious- and a touch sad, as you get the feeling that Affleck's heart was REALLY in the right place for Batman. When he chose to sniff the Liberace thong, I just laughed out loud. Who can hate a guy who can have a sense of humor about himself like this? Oh well... you know what I'm going to say next: BRING BACK BALE!!!
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Post by Metallo on Feb 15, 2019 16:57:53 GMT -5
Yeah I laughed too. I was like “WTF” but I laughed. Shows he doesn’t take himself too seriously and is being a good sport about all of this. He’s also been around long enough not to throw WB under the bus. He’s claiming him not being able to come up with a story that worked is the reason he’s leaving even though I don’t think he’s entirely telling the truth. He’s just being a good soldier on this one. He’s been out long before now and I think the cause was him feeling burned by BvS as well as butting heads with WB on the Batman. I think he was happy with his script but they weren’t. They wanted one movie and he wanted another.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 17, 2019 2:41:42 GMT -5
Yeah I laughed too. I was like “WTF” but I laughed. Shows he doesn’t take himself too seriously and is being a good sport about all of this. He’s also been around long enough not to throw WB under the bus. He’s claiming him not being able to come up with a story that worked is the reason he’s leaving even though I don’t think he’s entirely telling the truth. He’s just being a good soldier on this one. He’s been out long before now and I think the cause was him feeling burned by BvS as well as butting heads with WB on the Batman. I think he was happy with his script but they weren’t. They wanted one movie and he wanted another. Well, I think also he's working out personal problems far beyond the movies, too--- so hopefully he finds the right way to get those issues solved. When he says a story that worked- I wonder if that's also code for a script that makes the studio happy as well as what he think is good. Again, who knows what the chatter is behind WB doors.... sad that we can only speculate...
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Post by Metallo on Feb 20, 2019 16:50:06 GMT -5
I think you’re right. He didn’t deliver a script WB was happy with but it was sounding like he was pleased with how things were going at the time. The receptions to BvS and SS flipped everything upside down.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 20, 2019 16:54:39 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/batman-vs-ninja-turtles-animated-film-revealed/I grew up a fan of both and I’m sure they’ll go for something fun but I can think of team-up movies I’d like to see from both properties before I’d like to see them cross over with each other. It’s not surprising from a brand popularity perspective that this is finally happening on screen but I’m not sure it’s a ever going to be a good fit. If this had to happen I wish it could have been with established versions that were good fits like the 87 animated Turtles and the Superfriends/Superpowers team... or the DCAU Batman from Justice League and the 03 animated turtles. But I’m assuming these will be all new stand alone versions that were designed to fit together I’m guessing they’re going for a more fun Batman to make this work. That’s why he’s got the blue and gray suit with the yellow oval. That’s pretty much classic Batman.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 20, 2019 16:59:16 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/robbie-may-actually-return-for-squad-sequel/From a Creative standpoint I was fine with Robbie not being in the movie at all. She was one of the best parts of the movie but logically Harley’s involvement in the first film really made no sense unless Joker was the threat they had to deal with. She’s a crazy broad with a baseball bat. What does she bring to the team besides tits, ass, and MAYBE some unpredictable ideas and suggestions? At least the rest of them were hitmen, thieves, and monsters that brought more to the table for the kind of missions they were going on. She didn’t believably contribute as a physical threat. There was a way to make Harley relevant by playing up her experience as a psychiatrist and drawing on her expertise in certain situations when dealing with people but they didn’t even do that. From a marketing/popularity stand point it makes perfect sense to bring her back. I just hope they figure out a way to better integrate her into the story and make her necessary beyond hot funny crazy chick.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 27, 2019 14:30:58 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/robbie-may-actually-return-for-squad-sequel/From a Creative standpoint I was fine with Robbie not being in the movie at all. She was one of the best parts of the movie but logically Harley’s involvement in the first film really made no sense unless Joker was the threat they had to deal with. She’s a crazy broad with a baseball bat. What does she bring to the team besides tits, booty, and MAYBE some unpredictable ideas and suggestions? At least the rest of them were hitmen, thieves, and monsters that brought more to the table for the kind of missions they were going on. She didn’t believably contribute as a physical threat. There was a way to make Harley relevant by playing up her experience as a psychiatrist and drawing on her expertise in certain situations when dealing with people but they didn’t even do that. From a marketing/popularity stand point it makes perfect sense to bring her back. I just hope they figure out a way to better integrate her into the story and make her necessary beyond hot funny crazy chick. I agree. But the popularity of Robbie's Harley Quinn blew me away. I can't go to a convention without seeing someone dress up like her. My expectations for the film are low. I just want to see that gal from Scott Pilgrim in the original Huntress costume kicking butt and my geek is satisfied.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 28, 2019 8:15:27 GMT -5
She’s an easy and realistic thus popular costume choice. Hot topic Harley. Women probably find it more appealing than the jester outfit and more comfortable than the S&M leather and corset get up.
I hope they make MEW look great. Not sure if she’s right for the role but I’ll love her anyway cause I always do. I think she might have been a better fit for the Helena Wayne version actually.
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Post by mavcon75 on Mar 2, 2019 0:51:53 GMT -5
Hey everyone,
long time no post for me.....I actually sort of liked what they have been doing up until Justice League but dear god.....they are trying to cram storylines together too much, barely giving characters development before team-ups, and while I can't wait for Shazam and Wonder Woman 1984, did we really need a Suicide Squad 2, Birds of Prey, or Joker movie (dear god i don't know WHAT to think of that apparent trainwreck) while the actual main characters haven't even all had their own time to shine in their own movies? No Flash movie filming yet, No Green Lantern (feel like I'm doing Steppenwolf's Justice League Lines) Batman is still years away and we don't even have an actor yet, Superman is a toss up and with so many rumors abound do we STILL have Cavill or not?!? it's just a mess and I just wish they could figure out a Fiege-person to really spearhead all of this, write Flashpoint for Flash's movie and soft reboot a coherent storyline to move forward with ALL Primary DC figures first before going to their "Justice League International" rosters
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Post by Metallo on Mar 2, 2019 20:21:48 GMT -5
I agree. Even though I didn’t like most of that they did before JL and felt they crammed too much into BvS I also wish they would concentrate on getting what they have in order and just focus on what’s already on the slate instead of adding to it. Flash has been one long colossal mess.
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Post by Metallo on Mar 4, 2019 14:32:17 GMT -5
www.joblo.com/movie-news/ben-affleck-talks-giving-up-the-cape-and-cowl-as-dcs-batmanIn other words WB wanted something else he didn’t want and the two sides couldn’t agree. Respect Affleck for being a professional about it and not airing the dirty laundry but I remember before the rumors of him leaving came out he was saying he was happy with the progress of the script. Didn’t he even tweet that test footage of Deadshot? I do believe what he’s saying about time and taking the time to make it right. But the thing is...they’ve given Reeves more than enough time. He came on board The Batman two years ago and it’s still years away. WB probably would have given Affleck time (to a point) if both sides had been thrilled with what was being done. It wasn’t just the pressure of a rush job there was some kind of creative fracture behind the scenes.
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