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Post by Metallo on Oct 25, 2017 16:00:29 GMT -5
www.joblo.com/movie-news/deathstroke-film-in-development-with-the-raids-gareth-evans-at-the-helm-223The Raid 1 and 2 are amazing action films so if WB lets him do what he wants this could be entertaining. My issue is WB doesn't seem to know what they're doing. Deathstroke was going to be in a The Batman movie now he's not so they give him his own movie? They have all these movies in development with no real plan or idea of what they're doing. I think they should just use Deathstroke in a Batman or Titans movie. It's the most natural fit. Wonder what this means for Manu Bennett and his return as Deathstroke on Arrow?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 26, 2017 14:29:13 GMT -5
www.joblo.com/movie-news/deathstroke-film-in-development-with-the-raids-gareth-evans-at-the-helm-223The Raid 1 and 2 are amazing action films so if WB lets him do what he wants this could be entertaining. My issue is WB doesn't seem to know what they're doing. Deathstroke was going to be in a The Batman movie now he's not so they give him his own movie? They have all these movies in development with no real plan or idea of what they're doing. I think they should just use Deathstroke in a Batman or Titans movie. It's the most natural fit. Wonder what this means for Manu Bennett and his return as Deathstroke on Arrow? I dug the first Raid film, but felt 2 was really misguided. I agree that the DC 'plan' is all over the place. I imagine that's what happens when leading by a committee that's not even fans to begin with. (Assuming that's the situation at WB) Originally, when WB canned the George Miller JLA film because of Nolan's wanting there to be one version of Batman on film at the time- I thought it a bad decision. Now.... with arbitrary (it seems) decisions on what's out there- it feels like quality control is more quality confusion. Who knows what the heck is the thinking behind anything there. If that's the case, might as well do me a favor and reboot/recast Superman and Batman right now.... |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 26, 2017 16:37:31 GMT -5
If Justice League fails a Flashpoint movie might give you what you want.
I think they have so many movies in development because they are unsure of the future. JL could underperform. It's looking like there's a strong chance it'll open lower than BVS. I think theyr giving themselves options for if JL succeeds or fails.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 26, 2017 16:42:13 GMT -5
If Justice League fails a Flashpoint movie might give you what you want. I think they have so many movies in development because they are unsure of the future. JL could underperform. It's looking like there's a strong chance it'll open lower than BVS. I think theyr giving themselves options for if JL succeeds or fails. There's such a degree of overlap in terms of what superhero films offer now- I think that even Marvel might be having talks that there's no telling when/if people will start just waiting for the dvd on these new superhero projects versus going to the theatre. If "Blade Runner" was trying to sell the visual spectacle at all- pretty shocked how many weren't at all interested in even checking it out the first weekend. To me, I think it's all about interest in the characters now. With JL having only WW as a 'solid' character, I highly doubt it'll approach anything to Avengers numbers. But, will see very soon! |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 26, 2017 16:54:10 GMT -5
The superhero genre isn't going to die anytime soon but it can take a massive downturn if the market is flooded with a new movie opening every weekend and two or three tv shows on different networks and platforms each night. Overexposure and oversaturation will hurt the superhero genre. Especially if most of it is mediocre or outright bad. No one can watch it all so some of this stuff will fail regardless of quality. There's just not enough room
What killed Blade Runner 2049 at the box office was the producers and the studio overestimating the brand recognition and popularity. You hear how great the first films are but most people have never seen them and have little to no interest in seeing them.
The same thing happened with Ghost In The SheII and Tron Legacy. The originals are classics but they were closer to cult classics than massive mainstream hits. They had niche audiences. Hollywood mixed up respect in the genre or medium amongst cinephiles with awareness from the average joe.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 26, 2017 23:55:07 GMT -5
The superhero genre isn't going to die anytime soon but it can take a massive downturn if the market is flooded with a new movie opening every weekend and two or three tv shows on different networks and platforms each night. Overexposure and oversaturation will hurt the superhero genre. Especially if most of it is mediocre or outright bad. No one can watch it all so some of this stuff will fail regardless of quality. There's just not enough room What killed Blade Runner 2049 at the box office was the producers and the studio overestimating the brand recognition and popularity. You hear how great the first films are but most people have never seen them and have little to no interest in seeing them. The same thing happened with Ghost In The SheII and Tron Legacy. The originals are classics but they were closer to cult classics than massive mainstream hits. They had niche audiences. Hollywood mixed up respect in the genre or medium amongst cinephiles with awareness from the average joe. I enjoyed Blade Runner 2049, but damn, that thing was unnecessarily slow-moving. Ghost in the Scarjo Sheck and Tron Legacy I thought just weren't all that good, period. So it's hard for me to be objective about their lack of success. But- you're right. Just because it may have a lot of fan recognition- doesn't necessarily mean that the average movie joe knows or cares. (Or at least enough to buy a ticket to try it out) |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 27, 2017 8:07:41 GMT -5
I thought BR 2049 was fantastic. The pace wasn't an issue for me (it flew by because I was so into it) but I know it was for some. It could have had 20 minutes cut out. They let Villeneuve make the movie he wanted to make which is admirable in this day in age but some of those slow ponderous shots and scenes could have been trimmed.
Tron Legacy was ok but not great. Kosinski is a solid filmmaker and the film looked great but not special. Unlike the first tron the look of the film wasn't exactly groundbreaking and the first film didn't even do that well.
Ghost in the SheII looked great but it was one of the most generic derivative movies I've ever seen. The marketing was weak as well. Lucy was much the same but that did tons better at the box office. It's one of many examples of a not so great film making big money because of the way it looked and marketing.
The three films above all looked strong but the marketing was poor. Blade Runners marketing never really even told people what the film was about so why would they be interested? It all relieved on the visual appeal and assuming people's reverence for the original.
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Post by Metallo on Oct 27, 2017 13:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Oct 27, 2017 18:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 27, 2017 20:22:32 GMT -5
I could have sworn this was a post on the Deathstroke movie, but I must have been imagining things, oh well....  Seriously, though- Levi would have been a great Batson- when he was much younger. I wonder two things: (!) the 'dark' hoodie Captain Marvel (hopefully not!!!) -or-(2) Happy/light Captain Marvel? Will see... |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 28, 2017 13:54:04 GMT -5
It'll be a lighter version of Cap/Shazam. After tossing snyder out on his ear for mucking up Superman they aren't going to go through this again with yet another traditionally optimistic fun character. Doing a dark Shazam would end up worse than doing a dark Superman. The whole movie universe is going to go lighter. Some will be lighter than others though. Levi wasn't my first choice. In fact he was a dark horse for this role...but I like it. I can see it working. In fact the more I think about it the more I like it. He's got a sense of humor and boyish charm you'd need for Shazam. He's a kid living out a wish fulfillment fantasy made real. He's going to have to bulk up but that can be done. He's got the height already. Plus he's already gone against one Superman   |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 28, 2017 22:29:20 GMT -5
It'll be a lighter version of Cap/Shazam. After tossing snyder out on his ear for mucking up Superman they aren't going to go through this again with yet another traditionally optimistic fun character. Doing a dark Shazam would end up worse than doing a dark Superman. The whole movie universe is going to go lighter. Some will be lighter than others though. Levi wasn't my first choice. In fact he was a dark horse for this role...but I like it. I can see it working. In fact the more I think about it the more I like it. He's got a sense of humor and boyish charm you'd need for Shazam. He's a kid living out a wish fulfillment fantasy made real. He's going to have to bulk up but that can be done. He's got the height already. Plus he's already gone against one Superman It still amazes the heck out of me that Chuck is the same height as Superman. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 29, 2017 7:42:18 GMT -5
He's a pretty tall guy. In the Thor films he holds his own against guys like Hemsworth Elba and Ray Stevenson.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 30, 2017 12:43:11 GMT -5
He's a pretty tall guy. In the Thor films he holds his own against guys like Hemsworth Elba and Ray Stevenson. I think there was a photo of Routh and Bale, where Routh was much taller. It's crazy that Chuck is taller than the Dark Knight, too. |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 30, 2017 14:14:21 GMT -5
Rouths almost 6'3" (probably somewhere around 6'2.5") and Bales around 6 ft. It was one of the things he had going for him that Cavill and Hoechlin lack. Kinda strange to see Superman shorter than most of the Justice League and the new Shazam.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 30, 2017 17:46:16 GMT -5
Rouths almost 6'3" (probably somewhere around 6'2.5") and Bales around 6 ft. It was one of the things he had going for him that Cavill and Hoechlin lack. Kinda strange to see Superman shorter than most of the Justice League and the new Shazam. It'll even be more strange to have Cavill be the first Superman ever with digital CGI lips. ;p |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 30, 2017 22:21:10 GMT -5
At the rate he's going he's going to need a digital hairline. They coulda gone rebirth and just given Cavill a beard.
Affleck looks like sh!t in some of the trailers scenes. Not at all how he looked in BVS. He looked great in that. I wonder if he was heavy into the booze in those shots? He just looks bloated. Coulda used a cgi touch up too.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 30, 2017 23:38:35 GMT -5
At the rate he's going he's going to need a digital hairline. They coulda gone rebirth and just given Cavill a beard. Affleck looks like sh!t in some of the trailers scenes. Not at all how he looked in BVS. He looked great in that. I wonder if he was heavy on the motor oil in those shots. He just looks bloated. Coulda used a cgi touch up too. That may happen before JL hits the screens. I have a feeling things are still being altered as we speak, up to release date! |
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Post by Metallo on Oct 31, 2017 7:49:23 GMT -5
This is a down to the wire production. I don't believe any of the fanboy responses of Whedon just finishing up what Snyder didn't. Got a feeling they've reshoot huge chunks of this movie. Han Solo went through the same thing. Im guessing Whedon reshot a lot of story and character moments. With some tweaks they should be able to keep most of Snyders set pieces.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 6, 2017 16:12:18 GMT -5
News that Billy Batson has been cast!
Ok- more of a feeling that it'll be closer to the CC Beck comics, now.... maybe.
Wonder if Zach Levi will bulk up?
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Post by Metallo on Nov 6, 2017 16:26:25 GMT -5
I saw that too. Looks like they're going classic instead of Billy being a grown man. Levi's definitely gonna be putting some muscle on. He joked about being in the gym all the time from now on. I'm wondering what the suits going to look like. Snyders out so I don't see his aesthetics permeating the dc movie universe anymore. I have no clue what stylistic direction they're going in with this. What's the Rock going to look like as Black Adam? Will they be more CC Beck or more New 52? A combination of both?
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Post by Metallo on Nov 25, 2017 7:03:07 GMT -5
 He was in JL but I think this is the best look we've gotten of him so far. Looks very Arkham Games inspired which I like. I think he could be good in the role but everything's so up in the air. Who knows when or if we will see him in anything anytime soon. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 25, 2017 15:57:17 GMT -5
I actually like the actor (from what I've been able to glean in interviews anyways)- He does have a great look here.
If the Batfleck movie was going to concentrate on mainly character stuff with Deathstroke contrasting with Batman, that would have been cool.... but you're right- who KNOWS what's going to happen next?
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Post by Metallo on Nov 27, 2017 6:27:07 GMT -5
Manganiello has a good look and the right build to make the suit look good. As good as Manu Bennett is as Slade on Arrow I always thought he looked too broad and bulky in the Deathstroke armor.
Not sure about Joes ability to play it but I'll give him a chance. He's willing to do sillier stuff like the newest Pee Wee Herman movie on Netflix. I actually thought he was ok in the David Ayer film Sabotage. He might be a good foe for the Suicide Squad at some point.
Its hard to imagine JL2 happening right now. If it doesn't I'd like to see him pop up in the Nightwing film to build to an eventual Judas Contract movie. Such a shame Snyder strip mined the potential future of this movie universe with such divisive and flawed but ambitious films.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 27, 2017 13:08:38 GMT -5
Manganiello has a good look and the right build to make the suit look good. As good as Manu Bennett is as Slade on Arrow I always thought he looked too broad and bulky in the Deathstroke armor. Not sure about Joes ability to play it but I'll give him a chance. He's willing to do sillier stuff like the newest Pee Wee Herman movie on Netflix. I actually thought he was ok in the David Ayer film Sabotage. He might be a good foe for the Suicide Squad at some point. Its hard to imagine JL2 happening right now. If it doesn't I'd like to see him pop up in the Nightwing film to build to an eventual Judas Contract movie. Such a shame Snyder strip mined the potential future of this movie universe with such divisive and flawed but ambitious films. Saw Manganiello on a panel for True Blood- I actually thought the guy very down to earth. Love that he has a good enough sense of humor to do the Pee Wee movie. About Snyder: Can't fault the guy for passion- I do think he's genuinely a fanboy, but just makes choices that drive me crazy at the wrong times. |
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