CW’s Superman & Lois - Truth, Justice, and Family panel/Q&A

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www.darkhorizons.com/the-cw-plans-superman-lois-series/

The CW Plans “Superman & Lois” Series

By Garth Franklin

Monday, October 28th 2019 12:01 pm

The CW’s DC universe is reportedly looking at “Superman & Lois,” a present-day drama series based on the DC characters and starring “Supergirl” guest stars Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch as the famed couple.

The project is now in development and hails from “The Flash” executive producer Todd Helbing, DC TV Universe architect Greg Berlanti and Warner Bros. TV.

Helbing pens the series which revolves around the world’s most famous Super Hero and comic books’ most famous journalist as they deal with all the stress, pressures and complexities that come with being working parents in today’s society.

Sarah Schechter and Geoff Johns will also executive produce. “Superman & Lois” is being developed as a standalone pilot, not a planted spinoff on one of the existing DC series though the characters have been established in several episodes of the series already with Hoechlin in the role since 2016 and Tulloch since 2018.

Source: Deadline

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Tyler Hoechlin posted this on Instagram

tylerhoechlin

I could not be more grateful for the opportunity to tell this story, that for now shall remain a secret. But I’ve been blessed with nothing less than the most wonderful people to do it alongside of. I couldn’t ask for a better partner than @bitsietulloch in all of this. I’ve already learned so much from her and I know that won’t stop anytime soon. So thank you @gberlanti and everyone else who brought her in as our Lois Lane. All the people behind the scenes care so much about these characters and their lives and the parts to which we’ll be speaking about, it gives me great comfort to know that they’ll steer us in the right direction. Thank you to everyone that said “yes” to this project (Warner Brothers, DC, CW). We won’t let you down. It’s going to be a grand adventure. Can’t wait to get to work!

P.S. I had no idea this picture existed when someone grabbed the shot of Bitsie and I on the monitor, and I just noticed today the resemblance of my expression to that of Mr. Reeve. Had to share. Hope we make something he would be proud of.
Up, up!

http://instagram.com/p/B4LFeoHgL_W

[atp]

Who is "Mr Reeves"?

[Metallo]

A typo.

[crazy_asian_man]

Oct 29, 2019 15:32:50 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Tyler Hoechlin posted this on Instagram

tylerhoechlin

I could not be more grateful for the opportunity to tell this story, that for now shall remain a secret. But I’ve been blessed with nothing less than the most wonderful people to do it alongside of. I couldn’t ask for a better partner than @bitsietulloch in all of this. I’ve already learned so much from her and I know that won’t stop anytime soon. So thank you @gberlanti and everyone else who brought her in as our Lois Lane. All the people behind the scenes care so much about these characters and their lives and the parts to which we’ll be speaking about, it gives me great comfort to know that they’ll steer us in the right direction. Thank you to everyone that said “yes” to this project (Warner Brothers, DC, CW). We won’t let you down. It’s going to be a grand adventure. Can’t wait to get to work!

P.S. I had no idea this picture existed when someone grabbed the shot of Bitsie and I on the monitor, and I just noticed today the resemblance of my expression to that of Mr. Reeve. Had to share. Hope we make something he would be proud of.
Up, up!

http://instagr.am/p/B4LFeoHgL_W

NOT looking forward to this, given the costume and the casting. Ugh.

[Metallo]

I think the casting is solid. I’m more interested in the storytelling potential. This is also the first true Superman series in almost 25 years. How is that gonna play now? The idea of the kid and being married is also appealing. It’s like they’re going to really get into the stuff Lois & Clark only scratched the surface of.

[crazy_asian_man]

Oct 30, 2019 9:35:32 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I think the casting is solid. I’m more interested in the storytelling potential. This is also the first true Superman series in almost 25 years. How is that gonna play now? The idea of the kid and being married is also appealing. It’s like they’re going to really get into the stuff Lois & Clark only scratched the surface of.

I never liked the casting for Oliver Queen, Black Canary, and now Superman.

On the other hand, Grant Justin is perfect for Flash, initially I had resistance but Melissa Benoist fits perfectly for their version of Supergirl, and some of the casting for Titans is fantastic.

Maybe I'll grow to adjust to Hoechlin as Supes.... but I think the casting director for "Smallville" had more 'hits' in my book.

[Metallo]

I think their casting was just as mixed especially with the supporting roles and some of the villains. Never felt their Zod or Deathstroke or Cat Grant. I liked Smallvilles Jimmy Olsen better but they just had to convolute it needlessly. Then there’s the issue of casting for looks vs casting for talent. I’d take Benoist over Vandervoort anytime. I really think Melissa has made the Supergirl role her own. I still think Shipp is the best cast Barry Allen but I like Gustin a lot. Amell isn’t really any kind of comic book version of Green Arrow but I think his version works. It’s just it’s own thing. Hartley was definitely more a golden age green arrow though. I also think the Krypton versions of Zod and Brainiac were better than the Smallville or Arrowverse versions.

The original Arrow version of “Laurel” Lance/Black Canary was a disaster but I love the earth 2 version. I really feel like they took what didn’t work and fixed it. It’s a different character but it’s better.

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Oct 30, 2019 14:15:44 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I think their casting was just as mixed especially with the supporting roles and some of the villains. Never felt their Zod or Deathstroke or Cat Grant. I liked Smallvilles Jimmy Olsen better but they just had to convolute it needlessly. Then there’s the issue of casting for looks vs casting for talent. I’d take Benoist over Vandervoort anytime. I really think Melissa has made the Supergirl role her own. I still think Shipp is the best cast Barry Allen but I like Gustin a lot. Amell isn’t really any kind of comic book version of Green Arrow but I think his version works. It’s just it’s own thing. Hartley was definitely more a golden age green arrow though. I also think the Krypton versions of Zod and Brainiac were better than the Smallville or Arrowverse versions.

The original Arrow version of “Laurel” Lance/Black Canary was a disaster but I love the earth 2 version. I really feel like they took what didn’t work and fixed it. It’s a different character but it’s better.

I mainly meant for Smallville's casting for the leads.

Welling and the gal for Lois--- PERFECT young Lois and Clark.

Singer originally wanted the actor who played Iceman for Jimmy Olsen, funny how they got his twin.

Hartley IS the Green Arrow imo. Such a pity he wasn't approached for the 'real' arrow but I think he's loving being on "This is us."

[Metallo]

He wasn’t approached for Arrow for the same reason Alan Richtson from Smallville wasn’t approached to play Aquaman in the Mercy Reef pilot (and they cast Justin Hartley instead). They wanted to do their own take with their own version free from the continuity from smallville. If they’d cast Hartley people would think Arrow was a continuation of that. They had the freedom to do their own version of the dc universe. The Smallville versions had already gone a certain way

As for Welling and Durance they looked the parts but were average actors imo. Welling was pretty weak as an actor early on but did get better. In terms of sheer performance a lot of other actors have done better than both. Give me Hatcher or Kidders talent over Durances any day. I think even Cain had more charisma than Welling.

[crazy_asian_man]

Oct 31, 2019 8:50:24 GMT -5 Metallo said:

He wasn’t approached for Arrow for the same reason Alan Richtson from Smallville wasn’t approached to play Aquaman in the Mercy Reef pilot (and they cast Justin Hartley instead). They wanted to do their own take with their own version free from the continuity from smallville. If they’d cast Hartley people would think Arrow was a continuation of that. They had the freedom to do their own version of the dc universe. The Smallville versions had already gone a certain way

As for Welling and Durance they looked the parts but were average actors imo. Welling was pretty weak as an actor early on but did get better. In terms of sheer performance a lot of other actors have done better than both. Give me Hatcher or Kidders talent over Durances any day. I think even Cain had more charisma than Welling.

I don't know if Welling or Durance are great thespians, but the charm and charisma as their characters have/had me sold as the characters.

Hartley had some interesting things to say about Arrow and Aquaman on the "Inside of you" podcast by Rosenbaum. Worth checking out!

[booshman]

My concern for this show is going to be the writing. I stopped watching all the CW shows a while back because the writing was just utter shit across the board. 5 years of Arrow, 3 Flash and a couple of seasons of Legends and Supergirl and I'd had enough. I haven't seen anything of them since then. I'll be tuning into the the Ciris special for Routh, but I can't imagine this new show being anything other than more of the same. Who is Superman going to fight? Haven't all of his rogues gallery shown up on Supergirl already?

[crazy_asian_man]

Nov 3, 2019 20:03:05 GMT -5 booshman said:

My concern for this show is going to be the writing. I stopped watching all the CW shows a while back because the writing was just utter poop across the board. 5 years of Arrow, 3 Flash and a couple of seasons of Legends and Supergirl and I'd had enough. I haven't seen anything of them since then. I'll be tuning into the the Ciris special for Routh, but I can't imagine this new show being anything other than more of the same. Who is Superman going to fight? Haven't all of his rogues gallery shown up on Supergirl already?

A lot of the Berliantiverse I agree is pretty mediocre- there's good stuff, but there's also a lot of boring romance woven in and just DULL material.... but compared to Netflix's Iron Fist, Inhumans, etc.--- it's definitely ahead of those shows and one appreciates the Berlianti stuff more.

I really have issues with the casting... I had some issues with casting with Arrow, but the first few seasons entertained enough. I'll probably check It out, but.... with the casting and costume, I am a bit turned off...

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Oct 31, 2019 13:52:59 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Oct 31, 2019 8:50:24 GMT -5 Metallo said:

He wasn’t approached for Arrow for the same reason Alan Richtson from Smallville wasn’t approached to play Aquaman in the Mercy Reef pilot (and they cast Justin Hartley instead). They wanted to do their own take with their own version free from the continuity from smallville. If they’d cast Hartley people would think Arrow was a continuation of that. They had the freedom to do their own version of the dc universe. The Smallville versions had already gone a certain way

As for Welling and Durance they looked the parts but were average actors imo. Welling was pretty weak as an actor early on but did get better. In terms of sheer performance a lot of other actors have done better than both. Give me Hatcher or Kidders talent over Durances any day. I think even Cain had more charisma than Welling.

I don't know if Welling or Durance are great thespians, but the charm and charisma as their characters have/had me sold as the characters.

Hartley had some interesting things to say about Arrow and Aquaman on the "Inside of you" podcast by Rosenbaum. Worth checking out!

I’ll listen to it. I’ve listened before and it was pretty good. I think you can say that about most of the supermen btw. Cains not great but he’s likable and charming. Teri plays it well even though she’s got a terrible reputation.

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Nov 3, 2019 20:03:05 GMT -5 booshman said:

My concern for this show is going to be the writing. I stopped watching all the CW shows a while back because the writing was just utter poop across the board. 5 years of Arrow, 3 Flash and a couple of seasons of Legends and Supergirl and I'd had enough. I haven't seen anything of them since then. I'll be tuning into the the Ciris special for Routh, but I can't imagine this new show being anything other than more of the same. Who is Superman going to fight? Haven't all of his rogues gallery shown up on Supergirl already?

They really haven’t even scratched the surface. We haven’t seen the original Brainiac at all. Zods status is up in the air. Lex is back and a lot of those characters are still around. Just because they’ve been used doesn’t mean they’re dead or off limits. If anything it’ll make some things easier since they don’t have to do origins they can just get right too it. Parasite is a transferable organism and Id imagine Metallo could be someone else or even rebuilt the way Otis Graves was. This is a Superman whose been around for a while so most of his known adventures are probably backstory. They’ll have to craft a lot more new stuff which is a good thing.

[crazy_asian_man]

Nov 10, 2019 17:35:48 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Nov 3, 2019 20:03:05 GMT -5 booshman said:

My concern for this show is going to be the writing. I stopped watching all the CW shows a while back because the writing was just utter poop across the board. 5 years of Arrow, 3 Flash and a couple of seasons of Legends and Supergirl and I'd had enough. I haven't seen anything of them since then. I'll be tuning into the the Ciris special for Routh, but I can't imagine this new show being anything other than more of the same. Who is Superman going to fight? Haven't all of his rogues gallery shown up on Supergirl already?

They really haven’t even scratched the surface. We haven’t seen the original Brainiac at all. Zods status is up in the air. Lex is back and a lot of those characters are still around. Just because they’ve been used doesn’t mean they’re dead or off limits. If anything it’ll make some things easier since they don’t have to do origins they can just get right too it. Parasite is a transferable organism and Id imagine Metallo could be someone else or even rebuilt the way Otis Graves was. This is a Superman whose been around for a while so most of his known adventures are probably backstory. They’ll have to craft a lot more new stuff which is a good thing.

I'll probably check it out.... but I really hope that they recast both Supes and Lois prior to shooting...

[Metallo]

I think you’re going to be dissapointed.

[crazy_asian_man]

Nov 12, 2019 11:16:30 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I think you’re going to be dissapointed.

Yeahhhh.... I can hope anyhow.

[Metallo]

www.supermanhomepage.com/casting-call-for-roles-in-superman-and-lois-tv-series/

Casting Call for Roles in “Superman and Lois” TV Series

November 25, 2019
Television News 1

Rapaport Casting has issued an Open Casting Call for two roles required for the upcoming “Superman & Lois” TV series.

The announcement was issued over the weekend that Warner Bros./CW Network were seeking young teen actors to audition for series regular roles in the upcoming pilot.

The two roles are described as:

[MATTHEW] – Male, 13 to 16-years old to play 14-year old Caucasian, well on his way to becoming a physical specimen. Clean cut, modest and kind-hearted, with an aw-shucks attitude that somehow doesn’t seem dated. A three-sport athlete who’s already garnering attention from college and pro scouts.

[ETHAN] – Male, 13 to 16-years old to play 14-year old Caucasian, a young Leonardo DiCaprio who has an inherent darkness to him. Ethan’s wildly intelligent, but his mercurial temperament and social anxiety limits his interactions with people, and consequently, he spends most of his free time playing video games.

“Superman and Lois” will reportedly focus on the pressures Lois and Clark face in balancing their professional lives, superhero responsibilities, and the complexities of raising a child. That child will be introduced in the upcoming Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover, a twist that also explains why the couple have been spending so much time off-world in recent seasons of “Supergirl”.

Produced by Berlanti Productions and Warner Bros. Television, “Superman & Lois” is being written and executive produced by Todd Helbing, former showrunner of “The Flash”. Greg Berlanti, Sarah Schechter, and Geoff Johns will also executive produce the series.

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[booshman]

It's definitely better. The Reeve-esque \S/ and the collar shape look good. Shame they're still sticking with the cape clasp attachments.

[crazy_asian_man]

I wish I could get over the casting...which of course is totally subjective.

I'm old enough to remember the George Reeves re-runs, was pleasantly shocked when the Reeve/Donner film came next (always pictured Superman as always looking 40-50 years old not a 25 year old, until the Donner film)- Didn't quite connect to the first Superboy, but the second one felt also like he came out from a comic book- Enjoyed the unique tv Dean Superman- but that came packaged uniquely with Teri Hatcher and the amusing first season- And then was fine with Tom Welling- and of course shocked how Routh emulated Reeve. I even was actually 'okay-sh' with Henry Cavill despite horrible take from the writers on him....

But...
Tyler REALLY feels miscast to me. The costume is better, but I just feel like it's a guy trying to play the part rather than feeling like the other actors who more embody my sense of the character.

I know... sour grapes. Still will check out the show, but....

[Metallo]

Tyler’s got that million dollar superman smile and when he’s being positive you can totally see why they cast him as Superman.


To me if Routh is more of a post Crisis (now Kingdom Come) Superman, and Cavill is a new 52 Superman, then Hoechlin is the DC rebirth Superman. His costumes totally reflect that take. He has a great moment in Crisis when the Anti Monitor is about to destroy the waverider and everyone is defiant in the face of death. Right when Iris looks at him when their about to die he gives her a reassuring look that was pure Superman. That right there told me why the cast him.

www.cbr.com/crisis-tyler-hoechlin-superman-final-moment/amp/

Any issues I’ve had with his Superman lately is down to writing. I do feel like they’ve made him look a little weak recently to put other characters over. It’s the same problem the first season of the justice league cartoon had where they used Superman getting overpowered to out over how powerful any new threat was.

[Metallo]

www.supermanhomepage.com/superman-and-lois-tv-series-character-breakdowns/

“Superman and Lois” TV Series Character Breakdowns

February 5, 2020

Primetimer.com claims to have gained access to the script for the pilot episode of the upcoming “Superman and Lois” TV series, posting a brief (mostly spoiler free) breakdown of the characters we’ll be introduced to.

As the series opens, LOIS LANE (Elizabeth Tulloch) is still working at the Daily Planet, but CLARK KENT (Tyler Hoechlin) has just been fired following a massive layoff plan at the journal. His father JONATHAN KENT is no longer with them, while his mother MARTHA KENT is living alone on the farm where he grew up in Smallville. They have twins, JONATHAN and JORDAN KENT, who are thirteen and very different – both physically and otherwise. Jonathan is the popular one, an all-star athlete who’s about to enter the Varsity team, while Jordan is more introverted, anxiety prone, and very much into computers and video games. They don’t know who their father really is… yet. And they may or may not have inherited his powers.

Lois’s father GENERAL SAMUEL LANE is in the picture and knows about Clark. LANA LANG is also a big part of the show. She’s a banker, still living in Smallville, with her husband KYLE CUSHING, a firefighter, and their daughters, SARAH, who’s fourteen, and younger SOPHIE who’s eight. They are in a dark place: Kyle is a drunk and Sarah tried to take her own life a year ago.

And yes, Superman has an enemy in this version of the story, who appears as THE STRANGER in the pilot. His true identity is revealed ar the end of the episode…
Produced by Berlanti Productions and Warner Bros. Television, “Superman & Lois” is being written and executive produced by Todd Helbing, former showrunner of The Flash. Greg Berlanti, Sarah Schechter, and Geoff Johns will also executive produce the series.

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www.supermanhomepage.com/kent-twins-cast-for-superman-and-lois-tv-series/

Kent Twins Cast for “Superman and Lois” TV Series

February 5, 2020

Deadline.com reports that actors Jordan Elsass and Alexander Garfin have been cast in the roles of Clark Kent and Lois Lane’s twin sons, Jonathan and Jordan Kent.

Jonathan – Clean cut, modest and kind-hearted, with an aw-shucks attitude that somehow doesn’t seem dated. A three-sport athlete who’s already garnering attention from college and pro scouts.

Jordan – Wildly intelligent, but his mercurial temperament and social anxiety limits his interactions with people, and consequently, he spends most of his free time playing video games.

Elizabeth Tulloch, who plays Lois Lane on the series, confirmed the casting via Twitter saying, “Can’t wait to share their talent with you all – [Tyler Hoechlin] and I read with them and they are both terrific young actors.”

Written by Todd Helbing, based on the DC characters created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, “Superman & Lois” revolves around superhero Superman and journalist Lois as they deal with all the stress, pressures and complexities that come with being working parents in today’s society.