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Post by ye5man on Jun 6, 2010 13:57:18 GMT -5
Nobody is "crying"
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Post by EnriqueH on Jun 6, 2010 14:24:12 GMT -5
Why is it that you can't ever handle someone questioning your mod decisions?
I'm merely asking a valid question, and obviously, I'm not the only who feels that I'm posing a valid question. If I understood them correctly, Val and Kevin felt it a valid point. (Though Val mentioned that ATP may have been trying to cause problems, which did not occur to me at the time. Especially since you merely redirected the thread back to SR. Hence, my question on the issue.
As I said, *IF* ATP's intention was to cause problems, I understand the locking of the thread. But that's not what it seemed like to me.
The only one crying in a fit of rage is you, Mav.
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Post by Jimbo on Jun 6, 2010 14:33:41 GMT -5
It's a loaded question. Of course it was intended to cause problems.
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Post by MAVERICK on Jun 6, 2010 14:34:17 GMT -5
As I predicted. Tissue? Careful with that rage ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Anyway, its like this:
ATP has been pressing his luck for MONTHS now.
Every time he's made to stop beating one dead horse, he moves on to another. If you make him stop it with Warlock, he moves onto Amy. When you make him knock it off with Amy, he moves onto SR bashing. And so on. And while most folks think its funny at first, including me, it invariably does get out of hand & stupid after awhile & thats when folks complain to me about it & that when I do something about it.
I completely agree that the thread was a perfectly valid topic. And if anyone else had made it, it wouldn't have been locked. In fact, if ATP hadn't been pushing his luck so much lately, it wouldn't have been perceived as more of the same from him.
Indeed, if ATP were capable of ANYTHING besides Warlock, Amy, CGI, & SR bashing, his posts wouldn't be targets, but, as it stands, that pretty much IS all he is capable of, & that's why an otherwise perfectly legitimate thread was locked, so, you can blame him & he can blame himself.
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Post by indo77 on Jun 6, 2010 14:38:59 GMT -5
That is a reasonable point MAV if it's only about 1 person. This thread as it is can now center on Kevin Spacey then. Imo his Lex was very dark, the scene where he beats the cr*p out of Superman was disturbing.
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Post by EnriqueH on Jun 6, 2010 14:42:38 GMT -5
Yeah, very mature, Mav.
Again, you can't handle someone questioning your decisions.
All you had to do was explain your position, but you always have to throw in some needling comments because you feel insulted for being questioned.
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Post by MAVERICK on Jun 6, 2010 14:43:06 GMT -5
Indo gets it.
Thanks bud.
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Post by ye5man on Jun 6, 2010 14:46:46 GMT -5
. Imo his Lex was very dark, the scene where he beats the cr*p out of Superman was disturbing. The nadir of anything Superman related. I can't watch that awful scene; its not what Superman is about. |
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Post by EnriqueH on Jun 6, 2010 14:52:34 GMT -5
. Imo his Lex was very dark, the scene where he beats the cr*p out of Superman was disturbing. . The nadir of anything Superman related. I can't watch that awful scene; its not what Superman is about. yeah, that whole scene felt wrong. Particularly when those thugs started torturing Superman |
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Post by Keith on Jun 6, 2010 18:14:03 GMT -5
. The nadir of anything Superman related. I can't watch that awful scene; its not what Superman is about. yeah, that whole scene felt wrong. Particularly when those thugs started torturing Superman I think it just felt so wrong because we've never seen (aside from comics) Superman so weak, getting the crap beat out of him and being completely useless. Thats the first time in a live action standpoint that we've seen such a thing, and it shocked the fuck out of us. As much as I hate that scene.. I absolutely love it. It took balls to do a scene that disturbing with Superman. |
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Post by MAVERICK on Jun 6, 2010 21:16:23 GMT -5
Nah, the exact same thing happened in Superman II.
A powerless Superman got his ass kicked hard in a Diner.
SR was just more extreme.
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Post by Kirok on Jun 6, 2010 23:19:41 GMT -5
I blame Spacey's failure to live up to expectations on Singer's approach to the character. He could have finally brought he Post-Crisis Luthor to the big screen (something television has been doing for years with Smallville, Superman: The Animated Series, and Lois & Clark), but instead chose to stay in his Donnerverse comfort zone. The worst part about this is the film could have EASILY evolved Donner's Luthor INTO the Post-Crisis Luthor by explaining in Superman's absence he gained favor with the public and through his ingenuity established LuthorCorp. Superman returning to a Metropolis ruled by his greatest enemy, and embrace by the public no less, would have added a whole new layer to the story. Such a missed opportunity...
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Post by Keith on Jun 7, 2010 0:52:21 GMT -5
Nah, the exact same thing happened in Superman II. A powerless Superman got his ass kicked hard in a Diner. SR was just more extreme. Yeah, but the diner scene, to me was expected cause he was "human" for the first time.. in SR he just got weaker and he didn't even know about it. I dunno if that makes sense lol. But you are right that SR was just more extreme. |
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Post by Keith on Jun 7, 2010 0:55:01 GMT -5
I blame Spacey's failure to live up to expectations on Singer's approach to the character. He could have finally brought he Post-Crisis Luthor to the big screen (something television has been doing for years with Smallville, Superman: The Animated Series, and Lois & Clark), but instead chose to stay in his Donnerverse comfort zone. The worst part about this is the film could have EASILY evolved Donner's Luthor INTO the Post-Crisis Luthor by explaining in Superman's absence he gained favor with the public and through his ingenuity established LuthorCorp. Superman returning to a Metropolis ruled by his greatest enemy, and embrace by the public no less, would have added a whole new layer to the story. Such a missed opportunity... I really wished they would have done it.. would have been an easy transition to make Luthor into the Post-Crisis Luthor, and it would have worked so well. Missed opportunity indeed. I think Spacey would have done so much better with Luthor if the character was like that. |
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Post by ye5man on Jun 7, 2010 3:53:20 GMT -5
Nah, the exact same thing happened in Superman II. No way; in 2 he got punched in the back and went through a (convenient) glass door SR was a blatant nod to Passion of the Christ cos Singer pushed the allegory right the front instead of Donner's more subtle way. Having him being dragged about, kicked, punched, beaten, stabbed, and then thrown off a cliff into the sea is not the "exact same thing" Just an awful, uncomfortable scene and not what the character is about. |
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Post by EnriqueH on Jun 7, 2010 5:42:46 GMT -5
Weren't the thugs also dunking his head into a puddle?
Just saying.
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Post by ye5man on Jun 7, 2010 5:55:54 GMT -5
That too.
Infact they were one or two steps away from Buttfucking him!
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Post by Legsy on Jun 7, 2010 9:21:52 GMT -5
That too. Infact they were one or two steps away from Buttfucking him! Wasn't that the point? To tear him down? It was supposed to be a brutal beating and to me, Luthor achieved that. |
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Post by EnriqueH on Jun 7, 2010 9:26:44 GMT -5
It just didn't fit with the tone aleady established for Lex and his goons.
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Post by ye5man on Jun 7, 2010 10:35:32 GMT -5
There are ways of doing that in a family comic book film (off screen for example); this clearly wasn't the right way
Took me right out of the film
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Post by stargazer01 on Jun 7, 2010 11:23:52 GMT -5
There are ways of doing that in a family comic book film (off screen for example); this clearly wasn't the right way Took me right out of the film The fim is rated PG13. Not exactly a family film. Why not? These goons were not portrayed as dumb as Otis, and this Lex was clearly more sinister than the Lex from the Reeve films. It fits just fine to me. |
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Post by Legsy on Jun 7, 2010 11:34:01 GMT -5
There are ways of doing that in a family comic book film (off screen for example); this clearly wasn't the right way Took me right out of the film The PG-13 did mention - Parents Strongly Cautioned - Some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. Films given this rating may contain sexual content, brief or partial nudity, some strong language and innuendo, humor, mature themes, political themes, terror and/or intense action violence. I felt it fit, making Luthor more menacing. |
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Post by ye5man on Jun 7, 2010 11:41:29 GMT -5
Intense action violence is not right for PG13
Some of you guys are being biased cos its a film you all love.
and Star, Superman is always geared for the kids too. Saying its not a family film goes against all the marketing they did.
Since when has Superman been for adults only?
Its super retarded, that's what it is!
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Post by Legsy on Jun 7, 2010 11:45:14 GMT -5
Well, that's what the Motion Picture Association of America excepts as a PG-13 rating. Maybe you should write them a nice letter expressing your concerns.
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Post by ye5man on Jun 7, 2010 11:56:29 GMT -5
It doesn't matter about those cunts. Anyone should be able to tell that scene went over the top for the subject matter
You guys are against a dark Superman film - that scene was darker than anything I've seen in a Batman film.
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