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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 12, 2011 10:24:45 GMT -5
you can get free "superman celebration " posters, autographed for free.
additional items, like posters/toys are subject to whatever fees the celebrity and thier manager can get.
so if you want a FREE autograph, you can get one, but if you want your SR poster or action figure it's 30.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 12, 2011 10:28:26 GMT -5
THIS is what blows: to get in line to meet routh and the others you HAVE to get a ticket to attend autgraph sessions. you CAN NOT get these tickets in advance online ! it's first come first serves and FREE. that may sound nice, but i'd rather PAY so that i know i won't drive 9 hours only to tell the kids that they can't meet superman! so be there at 7 am and then wait till saturday and you MIGHT get to meet superman. i think i might have to skip it....
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 12, 2011 10:45:22 GMT -5
Comicon has it worse and has (on the surface it seems) tried to make it fair for people who go there for specific autographs over the years, but it's been so disorganized, it's maddening- if you bought the ticket/ paid to travel there/ hotel/ etc.--- then trying to find the right person to give you a consistent answer on where/ when you were able to get tickets to get to the line to get the autograph- would drive you nuts. Went there when Angelina Jolie was there- wherein a giant line of fans who waited over 6 HOURS in line for her autograph- only to be told by the staff that the line they were told to wait in by staff afterwards was the wrong line! (I know this, because one of my friends was IN that line)..... - And, apparently- from what I hear, it's not the first (or only) time that they've had these kinds of mixups. An easier way to get autographed items I've found are dealers at the show at the convention or ebay- but, of course, there's always the danger/risk of fake autogaphs..... So....
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Post by stargazer01 on May 12, 2011 10:54:12 GMT -5
Well that sounds a bit depressing.. that's why I don't do those things.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 12, 2011 10:58:21 GMT -5
Well.....as mentioned, the scary/sad thing would be if Routh NEEDS the money- Stan Lee was recently at a comic shop & tickets were $40 for him to sign a couple of items.
In talking to my friends who are autograph hounds- some celebs don't sign that often/ go often to the shows- (resulting in higher autograph costs)--- whereas others go to ALL the conventions.
Hard to say which camp Routh will be in. Hopefully he'll be one of those stars that really enjoy the experience. He came twice to the bay area conventions (dunno if he did autograph signings though) and unfortunately missed his appearance twice- both were suprise/ last minute visits.
Friend of mine was able to chat w/him and shake his hand at one of these. Said he was pretty cool and....a 'damn he's tall in person!'
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 12, 2011 19:30:09 GMT -5
i hope routh doesnt need money, but thats not my point.
its not at all uncommon for celebs, b-celebs and c-celebs and ex-athletes to charge for autographs. sometimes they HAVE to because of contracts, sometimes they license autographed memorobilia on the condition that they keep it exclusive, and yes, sometimes it's an income. plus, they have agents who book these things and expect a return.
what BUGS me is the poor planning here. giving "free tickets" with no garauntee that it'll do you any good is actualyl a DETERRENT to going. BUYING a ticket that gaurantees me a chance to therefor buy a glossy or a poster to get sigend is like buying piece of mind.
all i want is to buy a ticket to get admission, THEN i will wait in line to pay an agent 20-30-50 bucks to shake hands and get a pic with my hero.
but i don't like an epic road trip for a SLIGHT chance to get a ticket to get that access.
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Post by ShogunLogan on May 13, 2011 16:45:04 GMT -5
A lot of times it isn't the actor/celebrity that charges the autograph fee. They have an appearance fee and the event itself dictates the autograph fee based on the appearance fee. I've met a lot of sports stars and got their autographs and they didn't even know how much the autograph fee was.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 13, 2011 17:55:29 GMT -5
funny, I don't really care about autographs. ;D It's just a piece of paper to me. I rather have a pic taken with my fave celebrity and to get to touch him/her. You know a hug or at least a hand shake! ;D
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Post by Jimbo on May 13, 2011 18:30:54 GMT -5
Before thepariah fell off the map, she got both from Brandon.
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Post by ye5man on May 13, 2011 19:19:46 GMT -5
Well.....as mentioned, the scary/sad thing would be if Routh NEEDS the money I don't give a fuck. Do I look like a charity case? I'll pay to support my local cat/dog charity, not some actor who chose his/her profession. Routh's made enough already to be secure for life. Christ, if I were an actor, give me a mill for one job and you won't ever see me charging the folks who made me famous for my autograph. I'd be so grateful, I'd do it for free. I think they're cunts for charging Way to rip off Joe public who already pay a small fortune just to turn up. How difficult is it to book your client for an afternoon at comicCon? Man, I'm in the wrong business.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 13, 2011 20:49:12 GMT -5
Wow. Do you go to church with that mouth? My goodness, calm down. Who cares what any of us look like? Seriously, though, I get what you're saying- but actors at a table (to me) offering to sign autographs for money is different than being harassed on the street for money. (Something I despise, depending on how the person is approaching me for money). Like the other comments above mentioned, who knows if it's Routh that's personally charging? And--- If he is, then he's not the only actor at a convention who's ever charged for one, if you're going to have rage at actors who should have made enough money to be set for life, (Margot Kidder got millions for her role in STM/SII but is at conventions, charging for autographs, too) but still need cash & attend conventions, you're going to have to yell at a LOOOOONG list of actors at these tables with that same story. Just sayin-
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Post by stargazer01 on May 13, 2011 22:05:34 GMT -5
Before thepariah fell off the map, she got both from Brandon. I don't recall anything like that. I think you're mistaken.
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Post by ye5man on May 14, 2011 8:03:07 GMT -5
CAM, I am talking about actors in general who do this. Greedy fuckers who cannot manage their money if they make millions and yet have to pretty much beg for more at these conventions. I can understand lesser known actors who cannot get other jobs (such as "Q" in the Bond films, who wasn't paid too much and couldn't find other work), but people who get enough to be financially free for life, and despise the fans by doing this crap is not right. Give the money to animal charities and not for snorting more coke or buying expensive cars!
If Routh quoted me a score for his autograph I'd laugh in his face!
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 14, 2011 11:56:44 GMT -5
Hm. I get where you're coming from- (the animal stuff aside- I used to live in area where a pit bull was allowed on the street to rip off half of a four year old's face- so I'm pretty animal-irritated, truth to tell, but that's another forum) -
At the conventions I've gone to, I've witnessed actors being a*holes.... but I've also witnessed FANS being a*holes, too--- (Tarantino was actually a pretty easy going guy on the dealers' floor, but then got mobbed- pretty rudely - not too long after)...
So, I guess over time I've gotten the mentality that it's a 'case by case' basis up-close on how people treat one another at these things.
I know some fans that get autographs for the personal connection/ expression of gratitude, and other fans that act pretty rude to actors' faces & are only getting the autographs so that they can turn around and sell them.
At the same time, I've also heard of fans that treat the actors pleasant enough chatting about other things, that the actor genuinely feels comfortable & then goes out of their way to offer some gesture or such that that isn't normally given.
Is Routh being a jerk by charging money for having non-event stuff autographed? I think it's easy to jump to conclusions. Again, I'm not so deep into the autograph seeking as my friends who do attend these conventions, but they've shared stories with me on both sides of the fence-
If, on the other hand, he charged money for taking a picture with him---- then, I'd be more quick to come to the conclusion that the actor was greedy- (*and some actors have been jerks about that at conventions, too. David Carradine anyone?) but autographs - since they could be converted into money- I'm a little more forgiving when it comes to celebs charging for autographs.
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Post by ye5man on May 14, 2011 12:52:26 GMT -5
Blame the owners; the dog was probably not looked after properly; if they don't get enough exercise they go crazy
Anyway, why do we put actors on pedestals anyway? They're not special or anything. It's just a profession. Why are movie stars paid so much more than red cross nurses? Fucked up priorities if you ask me.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 15, 2011 2:55:26 GMT -5
I blame a LOT of pet owners in the area, who don't pickup the shite that their dogs leave on the sidewalks, let their dogs run amok without leashes in areas that clearly have signs posted around that leashes are required- etc. etc. etc. . (I also blame friends who have let their pets trash neighbors' yards- I'm pretty open to their face about it, too.) And yet--- pets are generally given higher status on pedestals just because--- ough, don't get me going.... I put the ones with good work ethics above those who don't have them- but, I agree- in general the universe DOES have f*d up priorities. But then again, in the scheme of things, if we really boil it down to basics, does anything really amount to much as we're all going to die one day anyways?
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Post by ye5man on May 15, 2011 6:24:55 GMT -5
Yep, a lot of people wrong assume winning life = how much toys you have at the end of it
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 11:51:17 GMT -5
Seeing how actors interact and just are in general is fascinating. They truly think they live in a different world. They aren't normal. The rules don't apply to them. This isn't standard, of course, there are plenty of actors I've encountered that are COOL as all heck. But I've also encountered the kind that you can't even look at eye to eye. Those are the kind of people that need to be homeless, as far as I'm concerned.
Anybody who acts like their shit don't stink, no matter what their profession, should have to take a bath in it.
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Post by ye5man on May 15, 2011 12:46:31 GMT -5
I'm so grateful I'm not part of that awful industry.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 13:21:39 GMT -5
While I think acting is pretty awesome and a heck of a lot of fun, at the end of the day it's fucking stupid. It's a ridiculous way for someone to make not only a living, but a massively lucrative living, and for someone to think they're better than anyone else.
You can pretend you're someone else really well. Neat.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 13:23:25 GMT -5
Fame does weird things to people. It doesn't have to be a character thing, necessarily. It definitely has a permanent effect on one's personality, though. I think it's because famous people will forever be at a disadvantage in any conversation with a stranger- most of the people they meet will already know their name, their work, their relationships, etc. It makes some actors a bit defensive and weird, while others will always seem like they're constantly "on," like a smiling car salesman roaming around a dealership. I can understand it, but it's a big reason why I don't care about meeting most celebrities. Your chances of cutting through the defensive layers and having a real conversation with one of them are pretty minimal. There are exceptions to the rule, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 13:27:35 GMT -5
I've encountered a few who were legitimately pleased to meet me and to know they actually had a fan out there, even though they so clearly have many. Cedric Yarbrough and Dave Foley are a few.
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Post by ye5man on May 15, 2011 13:39:33 GMT -5
I think if I were an actor I'd do a lot of stage work and try to live more anonymously. My idea of heck is having to sell a movie by travelling the world and answering the same idiotic questions over and over
No amount of money is worth living the life the likes of Jolie has to live these days. She steps out in tracksuit bottoms and it makes the gossip rags. Completely horrendous. Paparazzi are scum of the earth.
If you're in acting for the the money, then best to try to make it in another profession. Nobody needs the money they earn. What can you with so much? I bet the concept of having so much gets stale after time. I personally live a comfortable life (so far) for a fraction they make and live an anonymous life
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 15, 2011 14:00:37 GMT -5
i'm actually not so much about the "autograph", the kids will think its neat but autographs only really matter if you get them in person. i'd never pay for an autograph if it was not in person.
the autograph is beside the point, what i want is to just MEET the individual, shake a hand, buy a drink - just to say thanks for the work i have enjoyed and for having a positive role in my life.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 15, 2011 15:00:26 GMT -5
I think you hit the nail on the head perfectly. One of the videos posted on this forum (though videotaped by someone else) that showed Brandon Routh being videotaped at an airport- apparently without his consent, though he was aware of it- just made me feel uncomfortable watching it, as I was trying to put myself in his shoes.
If he put on a fake smile 24 hours a day wherever he went, just in case he ran into a fan who loved his work, then he'd be a fake person. If he put up any objection or didn't have a smile or was in a poor mood, then a fan could take it personally & shout out all over cyberspace (or videotape him with a cellphone & upload it to youtube) about what an a*hole he was.
In putting myself in his shoes for a second, it can only seem a bizzarro situation to live the rest of his life under an extreme microscope with all eyes watching & being labelled ALL the time. Moreso with the internet.
To willingly go to a convention- and sit behind a table hoping that someone enjoys their work enough to purchase a photo or autograph & behave the way that a particular fan may expect/want--- can't imagine that it's the easiest thing to do.
Margot Kidder herself said in interviews how Reeve handled being a celebrity much better than she did.
Anyhow- I digress. Having a genuine conversation with someone under those circumstances & getting a blip of who they really are, seems pretty rare. I agree. Moreso if money is involved.
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