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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jul 1, 2013 0:27:17 GMT -5
Ok- its progected to tap out at 650-700 in total.
So- if you're a superman fan- just put a gun in your mouth right now because all is lost.
Its SUPPOSED to make 1.3 billion 6 weeks before its filmed or its a "failure".
That's it. WB goes out of business. DC sold to "Archie". Zack snyder is "disappeared". Henry cavill gets a job as pool boy for jon peters.
Epic fail. Bring on rocket raccoon!
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Post by Shane on Jul 1, 2013 4:14:06 GMT -5
MOS made more opening weekend in australia then SR did in it's entire run
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 4:35:03 GMT -5
Yeah it's a pity Michael Shannon didn't overdose or this would be doing TDK numbers
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 1, 2013 11:23:44 GMT -5
Yeah it's a pity Michael Shannon didn't overdose or this would be doing TDK numbers TDK was a legitimately great film completely deserving of the praise it got. To blame its success entirely on Ledger's death isn't entirely accurate. Word around socially is that MoS is good to ok. Whereas when TDK came out, I would hear things like, "You gotta see this!" "Movie's awesome!" And "I'm seeing it TODAY because I'm sick of hearing how awesome it is." MoS was good but a very flawed good IMO. TDK kicks the shit out of it on every level: acting, execution, script, drama, emotional content, you name it. |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 1, 2013 12:06:11 GMT -5
Ledgers death helps but there was already big buzz on his Joker even before he died. TDK was going to ALWAYS make more than MOS. It was a sequel for one thing and that gave it an immediate advantage. TDK was just a better made bette put together film. The action sequences weren't the equivalent of destruction porn for one thing. And that film was far more balanced because of the Joker and bits of Bales millionaire playboy act. heck all the characters were just more fleshed out. I care more about Harvey Dents story than anything in MOS. If gave more characters more to do an juggled them all more effectively. Nolan's Batflicks were a better reinvention.
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Post by Jimbo on Jul 1, 2013 13:26:29 GMT -5
Yeah it's a pity Michael Shannon didn't overdose or this would be doing TDK numbers Nah. Ledger was young and a heartthrob. Shannon is neither of those things. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 14:19:53 GMT -5
Yeah it's a pity Michael Shannon didn't overdose or this would be doing TDK numbers Nah. Ledger was young and a heartthrob. Shannon is neither of those things. Was just going to say that. When an young, good-looking guy plays a freaky nut job, that's interesting. When weirdo Michael Shannon does it, he's not exactly playing against type. Maybe Channing Tatum should play a villain? (I kid, I kid.) |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 1, 2013 14:40:21 GMT -5
Tatum was a villian when he helped ruin GI Joe. Wasn't he?
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Post by Jor-L5150 on Jul 1, 2013 14:58:00 GMT -5
Shannon is a hilarious guy.
Very dry witty humor.
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Post by atp on Jul 1, 2013 15:50:47 GMT -5
When he say, "If you love these people, you can mourn them" why was he speaking with Yoda's voice?
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 1, 2013 16:01:21 GMT -5
ATP, I was just thinking about MoS and was thinking it was an exhibition. It needs emotional content.
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Post by atp on Jul 1, 2013 16:09:43 GMT -5
Anger?
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 1, 2013 16:13:01 GMT -5
::watching STM::
That's it! How did it come to Donner?
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Post by atp on Jul 1, 2013 16:22:27 GMT -5
Its like the opening credits had the daily planet building pointing away to the moon
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 1, 2013 16:24:19 GMT -5
Donner didn't think! He FEEEELS.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 1, 2013 16:31:38 GMT -5
Donner was more concerned about making it good than he was about making it cool. He knew if you make a great movie that people love that could go a long way to taking care of the cool part. You can tell he really gave a damn about about making sure the character was respected as a piece of Americana.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 16:39:41 GMT -5
Yeah it's a pity Michael Shannon didn't overdose or this would be doing TDK numbers . To blame its success entirely on Ledger's death isn't entirely accurate. Word around socially is that MoS is good to ok. Whereas when TDK came out, I would hear things like, "You gotta see this!" "Movie's awesome!" And "I'm seeing it TODAY because I'm sick of hearing how awesome it is." MoS was good but a very flawed good IMO. TDK kicks the shit out of it on every level: acting, execution, script, drama, emotional content, you name it. will have to totally disagree there, I'm not sure if I could watch it start to finish again. I was obviously being sarcastic about MOS having TDK numbers, but yeah, I remember the massive increase in buzz in the film when Ledger snuffed it. |
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 1, 2013 17:07:03 GMT -5
Hey, you can tell me The Godfather is the worst film ever made. That's your priviledge.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 1, 2013 17:22:31 GMT -5
TDKs greatness didn't depend on finally seeing its main character punch something.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 17:48:38 GMT -5
There was no greatness, it was dependant on one of it's cast mixing up his meds  |
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Post by Metallo on Jul 1, 2013 17:57:49 GMT -5
Again I think you've confused it with the schizophrenic MOS.
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Post by eccentricbeing on Jul 1, 2013 18:20:12 GMT -5
Kris...just because you don't feel The Dark Knight isn't a great movie doesn't mean that it's not in other points of views. Considering the critical praises and the amount of money it made, we can all safely say that it's highly regarded a great comic book movie. It still is and there's a reason it still is. Man of Steel is falling into the realm of Superman Returns where it's more of an acquired taste to appreciate its value and worth. It's quite funny that it's become that, but that's how it is now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 18:38:38 GMT -5
I don't really give a shit to be honest. I think it's a good film, nothing more. The way I see it Batman Begins was great though it didn't exactly get high praise on release. TDK had its buzz amped up to the max with Ledgers death, suddenly the sheep flocked to see it, TDKR was a mess which rode on the coat tails of it's predecessor. Above all else TDK doesn't even feel like a comic book movie to me.
But the main question is, why are people not happy with me voicing my opinion on TDK but they get offended by the fact that I enjoyed MOS and have defended it against some of the more pathetic criticisms. I'm starting to wonder if the people who sent the early TDKR reviewers death threats and abusive messages for not giving good reviews were actually members of this forum.
Yeah Man of Steel isn't a brilliant film, but so what, if you don't like it don't watch it, but don't piss and moan about Superman killing Zod, buildings crashing etc when you're determined to turn a blind eye to him killing Zod in SII and punching Non through a skyscraper, launching Zod into a coke sign etc. Incidentally that isn't necessarily directed at you eccentric
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Post by EnriqueH on Jul 1, 2013 19:56:55 GMT -5
Kris, it's becoming increasingly apparent that you're not "listening" to other points of view here, and shutting other opinions out, and so this is my final attempt to get you to understand my POV.
Further, if you can't understand and acknowledge why someone would prefer SII over MOS than there is similarly little point in continuing the discussion. Superman II featured Superman acknowledging the danger around him to others, which is what Superman would do as opposed to what we saw in MOS. It added to the drama and it made for an entertaining an iconic superhero film.
As for TDK, Ledger's death may have added to the mystique of the film, but the film was damn good on its own merits. But I think you know that and simply want to persist on the Ledger thing just to annoy people.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2013 20:13:34 GMT -5
This has all gotten so wonderfully entertaining.
Best part? We ALL at least kinda like MOS! At least! No one straight up hated it! Dahahahaha!
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