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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 20, 2011 1:11:38 GMT -5
That's shocking. And VERY sad. Geez....
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Post by ye5man on May 20, 2011 4:28:11 GMT -5
He got paid $1million? Would that be like $600,000 after tax? If I got that much after tax for 1 gig that included a serious career launch I would not be complaining. That's it.
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Post by ShogunLogan on May 20, 2011 6:45:53 GMT -5
So, he's not allowed to express disappointment about the fact that he didn't get to play a role that he loved more than once? Isn't that whining? I don't see why he needs to be contacted about a movie that isn't going to be made.
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Post by ye5man on May 20, 2011 8:51:25 GMT -5
Here's how it should have gone down:
??: And it did make quite a bit of money, by any standard.
BR: It’s one of those things, you know. But I'm not bitter because it has set me up for life and put me on the map. I don't need to tend bar any more nor worry about financial insecurity acting brings. It also opened a lot of doors for me, even though I didn't really make the most of it. In an ideal world I'd have played Superman for 15 years but I'm certainly not going to complain about what might have been - especially 5 years after the event
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 20, 2011 12:10:15 GMT -5
Nah. There's a difference between being asked about how one felt about something vs. telling the world that they inherently deserved more. So, no, it wasn't whining.
He was asked because the interviewer was curious, as were some of us who loved SR.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 20, 2011 12:18:36 GMT -5
I get what you're saying- but, we dont' know for sure if he really is set.
Reeve should have been (ideally) 'set for life'- but even before the accident, investments went bad, & from what we can tell, he didn't abuse his resources with drugs/etc. If someone is tossing out their money on partying or being Charlie Sheen, then I have zero pity, but it doesn't seem like Routh is in that category.
WB should have told him- SOMEONE should have told him that the sequel wasn't happening.
I generally don't have unnecessary sympathy for artists- but even though of course there are ten billion 'real' cases to feel sorry for (people with ill kids that they can't afford to take to the doctor, etc etc)- I still think at least Routh should be cut some slack for his situation. Any actor could have been a diva in his situation. He wasn't.
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Post by Jimbo on May 20, 2011 12:43:06 GMT -5
You dawg, I heard you like whining. So I put a whine in your comment about Routh whining, so you can whine while you talk about whining.
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Post by ye5man on May 20, 2011 12:44:18 GMT -5
Routh was in no position to be a diva; you can't defend someone who was not who they were not supposed to be anyway
I had no idea about this. Was he not so well off by the early 90s? He got $4M for Superman IV alone which is a lot more than he was getting prior to STM. Its not what you do with it, but the fact you're getting paid so much for relatively minor work (i.e. Reeve got more for Superman IV alone than what most people make in a lifetime)
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 20, 2011 13:08:52 GMT -5
rotuh isnt' whining, he's answereing a question, the same one he'd been getting for over a year and will probably be getting for years to come. (if i hit the powerball, it'll be a different career path for him )
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 20, 2011 13:23:10 GMT -5
I get what you're saying- it is a lot for relatively minor work - being an actor is definitely a risk- on one hand, even if you're making a mint for a short amount of time, if you never know if the Superman IV's are going to constantly be coming, then the dollar BETTER be stretched out for a lifetime (just in case).
The flip side could be said that the dice is rolling ALL on those parts. Mark Pillow I think- as a person- should get a TON of credit for transitioning between the 'actor career' to a business that wasn't nearly seeming as glamourous.
Other actors become pretty bitter/miserable when the acting opportunities dry out.
In Routh's case, I feel for the guy because there was such a giant expectation that there would AT LEAST be ONE more opportunity to make a mint. If SR had been a REAL 'bomb', then, yeah, the writing is/was on the wall.
With the sequel/reboot using Routh in limbo for years as a real possibility- that's why I feel some sympathy for the guy. If he had been given the 'nope, sorry' right away -or warned ahead of time- or, damn, even getting a phone call..... that's at least a courtesy that should have been afforded a guy who's got to have been responsible for a part of Superman Returns' $390 world gross.
So, yeah, even though we're all responsible for our finances, it's got to be said- from what we can see....at least he could have gotten a warning or a phone call.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 20, 2011 13:47:44 GMT -5
But the contrary happened. He was really let to believe by the studio (for at least 2, 3 years or maybe even more) that a sequel or a 'routhbooth' would happen for sure. But nothing. I even think that he probably was paid some money for being available just in case they'd used him, because WB did like him for the role and as a person.
But they changed their minds.
Any way, I think Brandon was just too naive in those days, and like ye5man said, he didn't make the most out of his big break with SR. I think some of his career choices haven't been the best, especially at the beginning. Hope he learns more and soon. He's still very young and is a good actor with a great personality. I don't think this is the end for his career, I'm not that pessimistic. He might never get to be a big star, but he can still get work in decent things.
And I think he's made enough money so far to not be worried about the future. He really seems like a very healthy and thoughtful/careful guy. The only thing I think he might be spending good money on is food, he always talks about it! He's like me, I love yummy food. ;D
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Post by eccentricbeing on May 20, 2011 14:05:17 GMT -5
You know...how does everyone here pronounce "Routh"? I'm lead to believe that it rhymes with "south", but I did pronounce it like "booth" in the beginning (which lead me to ask this question). ;D
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Post by Jimbo on May 20, 2011 14:06:23 GMT -5
It's rhymes with south.
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Post by ShogunLogan on May 20, 2011 14:29:37 GMT -5
Nah. There's a difference between being asked about how one felt about something vs. telling the world that they inherently deserved more. So, no, it wasn't whining. He was asked because the interviewer was curious, as were some of us who loved SR. See...I didn't get that from the interview. To me, Routh brought it up and the interview followed it along: The question was about a sequel to Dylan Dog...Routh brought up SR and the interviewer was made to expound on it.
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Post by MAVERICK on May 20, 2011 16:09:07 GMT -5
rotuh isnt' whining, he's answereing a question, the same one he'd been getting for over a year and will probably be getting for years to come. Nah. There's a difference between being asked about how one felt about something vs. telling the world that they inherently deserved more. So, no, it wasn't whining. He was asked because the interviewer was curious, as were some of us who loved SR. Common sense FTW!
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Post by stargazer01 on May 20, 2011 16:39:46 GMT -5
yeah, I think he's allowed to answer the question. It's not like he's complaining all the time. Now that'd be whining.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 20, 2011 17:10:52 GMT -5
and "bryan singer" rhymes with ... ''ditch"
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Post by ShogunLogan on May 20, 2011 17:27:48 GMT -5
yeah, I think he's allowed to answer the question. It's not like he's complaining all the time. Now that'd be whining. My point was, he wasn't asked a question about a sequel to Superman Returns, he was asked... Awww, forget it. Brandon is awesome!!!
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Post by MAVERICK on May 20, 2011 18:30:53 GMT -5
Good lad
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Post by ye5man on May 20, 2011 19:53:37 GMT -5
I want to see Routh do some proper drama, just to show his acting chops.
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Post by MAVERICK on May 21, 2011 1:36:48 GMT -5
Aye.
Gazer, did that movie with him & his wife called "Lie To Me" ever get released?
I REALLY wanted to see that after I saw the trailer.
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Post by stargazer01 on May 21, 2011 11:50:47 GMT -5
Aye. Gazer, did that movie with him & his wife called "Lie To Me" ever get released? I REALLY wanted to see that after I saw the trailer. It's an indie and yes it was released on dvd. Haven't seen it yet, but have heard good things about it. And yes it's a drama. They changed the title to 'FLING.' You can read some reviews here: www.amazon.com/Fling-Brandon-Routh/dp/B001O1RYGMBrandon also showed some good acting chops on CHUCK (third season). His character was very stoic and understated most of the time, but he had a chance in some episodes to really show some good range of emotion. It all makes sense once you see it. I really liked what he did there. His character brought a lot of intrigue and new drama to the show. He also filmed another drama film with his wife recently called MISSING WILLIAM. It's a love triangle I think. Sounds like it could be good, really want to see it when is out. But yeah, he hasn't done much drama, but he hasn't done a lot of things yet so, lol. I think right now he's shown to be better at comedy. He also does action really well, and he can play great villains.
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Post by MAVERICK on May 21, 2011 12:07:37 GMT -5
Didnt he also play a Meth addict in a movie? What was that?
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Post by stargazer01 on May 21, 2011 12:30:28 GMT -5
Didnt he also play a Meth addict in a movie? What was that? Oh yeah, the film is called 'Life is Hot in Cracktown.' Haven't seen it either, heard his role is very small. They show it sometimes on cable, but I don't have those channels. Here is the trailer:
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 24, 2011 8:25:49 GMT -5
It's possible that Routh wasn't as aggressive as Reeve about using Superman as a stepping stone to other things.
I guess in some ways Reeve was luckier than Routh, by having the opportunity to be in a few sequels and have the opportunity to headline some films beyond Superman--- but after the accident, it's hard to call someone in Reeve's situation lucky at all.
Routh's chance to headline movies again is questionable after the reception of Dylan Dog- but then again, Hollywood is always a long shot anyways. Besides, Tarantino loves SR.... and Tarantino has been known for ressurecting more than a few Hollywood careers in his time. Who knows?
And.... there's one more season of "Chuck". Can't hurt to have Shaw back one more time...
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