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Post by Metallo on Oct 27, 2017 14:35:09 GMT -5
Mark Hamill and Joker, Trickster, and Swamp Thing
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Post by Metallo on Oct 29, 2017 9:21:47 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Nov 21, 2017 12:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 22, 2017 14:16:45 GMT -5
Wow! Also dig the 'Crisis on Two Earths' pic. Lots of gold you're finding on the net- thanks! |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 22, 2017 19:04:59 GMT -5
It's based on a comic panel but I'd like see a version that has all flashes for a cool multiverse pic. If wb had any sense they'd have the tv and movie universes acknowledge each other with some kind of crossover on the big or small screen even if it's a brief cameo by Miller or Gustin in each other's flash properties.  I just think it's too soon to do Flashpoint as the first flash movie. I know why there doing it to fix a lot of problems but if the brand is damaged and they don't rebuild people's trust a Flashpoint movie could bomb and hurt them even more.  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 23, 2017 0:27:23 GMT -5
Damn you find great stuff on the web, Metallo!  Thanks as always for sharing these- About Flashpoint: I'd be suprised if they go through with it. Like anything else, mainly depends on the script & execution. But, yeah... could make things worse. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 23, 2017 8:08:48 GMT -5
I think...it's such a huge story and such a huge risk. I can see why they want to do it but I don't feel like they've earned that yet. It'd be like them doing the death of Superman or dark knight returns early...  They should just hold off and do a simple Flash story first. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 23, 2017 16:01:04 GMT -5
I think...it's such a huge story and such a huge risk. I can see why they want to do it but I don't feel like they've earned that yet. It'd be like them doing the death of Superman or dark knight returns early... They should just hold off and do a simple Flash story first. Agreed. I think it doesn't help, though, that there's a successful Flash on tv at the same time- unless the Flash movie is REALLY special and gets people to make the effort. Maybe WB/DC should look back at "Wrath of Khan" where they made a better story but slashed the budget to have a success with their sequel. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 23, 2017 22:02:06 GMT -5
That's a problem to me. Not s big problem but splitting their effort on some heroes in two directions can cause issues. While I was watching JLs scenes with Henry and Barry Allen I couldn't help but think I've seen all this stuff a few years ago and it was in more detail. It's not a major problem since not everyone watches the tv shows but its one more hurdle. Some people are going in preferring Gustin. Miller can change that but not before people have seen him.
So far the Arrowverse has been more consistent than the DCEU and its future is looking more assured.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 24, 2017 3:07:35 GMT -5
That's a problem to me. Not s big problem but splitting their effort on some heroes in two directions can cause issues. While I was watching JLs scenes with Henry and Barry Allen I couldn't help but think I've seen all this stuff a few years ago and it was in more detail. It's not a major problem since not everyone watches the tv shows but its one more hurdle. Some people are going in preferring Gustin. Miller can change that but not before people have seen him. So far the Arrowverse has been more consistent than the DCEU and its future is looking more assured. I think it definitely hurt SR that Smallville was still going on. I know it confused a family member why Martha seemed so old in the movies, when in Smallville she was considerably younger. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 24, 2017 10:24:25 GMT -5
I don't know if they split the general audience but they've definitely split the fandom even more. It was already fractured with people prefering one over the other but now it's far more hostile between the different groups. Especially when it comes to zack Snyder. You've got die hard snyderites attacking anyone they perceive to be a threat or critical to what they like.
Now you've got a situation where you've got FOUR guys who could play Superman right now and their fans wishing it was their guy. Some Smallville fans are still mad Welling isn't in the movies. Others mad it's not Routh. Others think Hoechlin is better than Cavill. Maybe Welling should have been the Arrowverse Superman. Maybe Routh should have been the Arrowverse Superman.
All these guys are still young enough to be credible in the role. The same problem exists with other DC characters but not as severe.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 24, 2017 15:24:22 GMT -5
I don't know if they split the general audience but they've definitely split the fandom even more. It was already fractured with people prefering one over the other but now it's far more hostile between the different groups. Especially when it comes to zack Snyder. You've got die hard snyderites attacking anyone they perceive to be a threat or critical to what they like. Now you've got a situation where you've got FOUR guys who could play Superman right now and their fans wishing it was their guy. Some Smallville fans are still mad Welling isn't in the movies. Others mad it's not Routh. Others think Hoechlin is better than Cavill. Maybe Welling should have been the Arrowverse Superman. Maybe Routh should have been the Arrowverse Superman. All these guys are still young enough to be credible in the role. The same problem exists with other DC characters but not as severe. If JL was a big hit, I wonder whether or not Flashpoint would have tried to do what DOFP did, in terms of making actor deals- and try to get as many versions of previous Supermen on screen (as well as others) as well. BUT.... it's such a moot point with JL bombimg. If I were WB/DC, I would reconsider putting all their eggs in one basket with the gigantic budget superhero films, and try building up more moderate hits insteadwith minor DC characters. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 24, 2017 15:42:58 GMT -5
That's exactly what they need to do. They need to rebuild faith and interest in the DC brand. Like you said smaller solo films.
If JL was a big hit I think they'd hold off on Flashpoint. It might not even happen now but if the film had been amazing and done big numbers there'd be no need for Flashpoint. Affleck might have been more willing to stay and not as much would have needed correcting continuity wise.
Now I think they feel they have to do it to recast Batman and give them a clean slate not bogged down in Snyders continuity. At least Fox delivered four good films before DOFP. DC came out of the gate limping with increasing failures. They're kinda stuck with Juggalo Joker for example unless they reboot. I liked Leto but a lot of people didn't. I still think he could be a great Joker. Luthor on the other hand is ruined to the core in this universe. Jesse f*ckin Eisenberg. 😫
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 24, 2017 15:50:43 GMT -5
That's exactly what they need to do. They need to rebuild faith and interest in the DC brand. Like you said smaller solo films. If JL was a big hit I think they'd hold off on Flashpoint. It might not even happen now but if the film had been amazing and done big numbers there'd be no need for Flashpoint. Affleck might have been more willing to stay and not as much would have needed correcting continuity wise. Now I think they feel they have to do it to recast Batman and give them a clean slate not bogged down in Snyders continuity. At least Fox delivered four good films before DOFP. DC came out of the gate limping with increasing failures. They're kinda stuck with Juggalo Joker for example unless they reboot. I liked Leto but a lot of people didn't. I still think he could be a great Joker. Luthor on the other hand is ruined to the core in this universe. Jesse f*ckin Eisenberg. 😫 Was not crazy about either Joker nor Luthor's casting, but oddly, I was more annoyed by Leto's Joker than Eisenberg-Luthor. In any case- you're right. It'd be weird to totally clear the slate and start over, with Wonder WOman and possibly Aquaman being good- but weird to semi-clear the slate, too. There's no real 'win' situation here that completely satisfies. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 24, 2017 16:05:00 GMT -5
That seems to be the consensus. WBs in a tough spot. They reboot and they lose some of the good things. The don't and they risk damaging the brand further
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 24, 2017 18:31:13 GMT -5
That seems to be the consensus. WBs in an tough spot. They reboot and they lose some of the good things. The don't and they risk damaging the brand further In some parallel (better) universe, DC would have been able to take Marvel's model for success and copied the right parts. How awesome would that have been? It's odd to think that a Kevin Feige would be such a rarity, but I guess he really is instrumental to the overall superior quality of the Marvel brand. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 24, 2017 19:08:48 GMT -5
It really was that easy. Get someone in charge who is a strong producer with comic book knowledge or at least respects the material and just follow the model. Instead they tried to be like Marvel but not look like they were being like model.
Copying the Marvel blueprint would have been fine. Keeping the characters faithful to the DC comics would have taken care of any comparisons.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 24, 2017 21:30:09 GMT -5
It really was that easy. Get someone in charge who is a strong producer with comic book knowledge or at least respects the material and just follow the model. Instead they tried to be like Marvel but not look like they were being like model. Copying the Marvel blueprint would have been fine. Keeping the characters faithful to the DC comics would have taken care of any comparisons. If they really did entrust Nolan-Snyder to plant the first seeds (and it looks like they did), then perhaps WB/DC didn't have such a bad plan, but just entrusted the wrong talents. On the flip side, have to credit Snyder for his casting of Wonder WOman, Batman finally fighting the way he should (at least I felt he did), and Biker Aquaman- that looks interesting even if I have to get used to Khal Drogo as the king of the seas. |
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Post by Metallo on Nov 29, 2017 16:03:30 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 29, 2017 23:57:30 GMT -5
That's hilarious. Love the last bit about the Avengers. Good point.
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Post by Metallo on Nov 30, 2017 10:23:36 GMT -5
That video represents every die hard Snyder fanboy who thinks he can do no wrong.
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