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Post by Metallo on May 25, 2017 20:12:23 GMT -5
Fascinating
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 28, 2017 18:22:00 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on May 28, 2017 20:31:31 GMT -5
I really like their videos. They do their homework. They were spot on on everything with the Ghostbusters reboot and Fantfourstic.
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Post by Metallo on Nov 3, 2017 14:08:26 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 3, 2017 23:31:14 GMT -5
I just REALLY hope that there's a good counterbalance to Goyer in the showrunning department-
If so, this show could really be something.
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Post by Metallo on Jan 9, 2018 18:30:09 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/syfy-unveils-full-krypton-trailer/Looks pretty meh to me. Some of it looked alright but other parts looked pretty hammy. Wasn’t impressed with the lead guy. At first I thought it would at least look good but saw some set photos and it looks pretty cheap for what’s supposed to be an advanced alien world. Not Inhumans cheap but it looked like a back alley of some old castle with a pub next door. Also looks like they’re admitting the DCEU isn’t so strong because Krypton is cutting its ties to Man of Steels continuity. Originally this was Goyers MOS prequel. Notice they changed Superman’s S to a more traditional design with a bit of the MOS winding pattern inside it. There also an S on the back of Superman’s cape.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jan 10, 2018 18:37:06 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/syfy-unveils-full-krypton-trailer/Looks pretty meh to me. Some of it looked alright but other parts looked pretty hammy. Wasn’t impressed with the lead guy. At first I thought it would at least look good but saw some set photos and it looks pretty cheap for what’s supposed to be an advanced alien world. Not Inhumans cheap but it looked like a back alley of some old castle with a pub next door. Also looks like they’re admitting the DCEU isn’t so strong because Krypton is cutting its ties to Man of Steels continuity. Originally this was Goyers MOS prequel. Notice they changed Superman’s S to a more traditional design with a bit of the MOS winding pattern inside it. There also an S on the back of Superman’s cape. After “inhumans” and “iron fist” , the bar is so low that i’m Now even re-evaluating my reviews of a lot of “ Smallville”, so there’s that- but, dMned if this wasn’t a perfect fit for a great Trek writer like Ron Moore or Manny Coro.... |
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Post by Metallo on Feb 21, 2018 16:52:14 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 23, 2018 0:09:22 GMT -5
I don't know how the show is going to be, but bringing in iconic Superman characters and giving them the classic look is definitely a step in the right direction! Love the photo.
Kind of wish Gough and Miller was part of this team- the main things that killed Smallville was the 'no tights, no flights', 'Clana', and the 'amnesia plot device'--- but they DID make you care about the characters in the beginning and would have episodes now and then that were incredibly effective.
Maybe Gough and Miller would have balanced Goyer's rather cold view of things. But, will see....
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Post by Metallo on Mar 18, 2018 22:40:37 GMT -5
Watched some of the sneak peak on SyFy and it looks like the show is going to use a bit of the Williams theme...at least for one episode.
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Post by Metallo on Apr 17, 2018 15:27:37 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on May 18, 2018 11:08:08 GMT -5
I think most people have jumped ship but I’m trying to hang in there for the finale. It’s been a mixed bag. It feels like a lot is happening yet nothing is happening. It’s strange. The main story has progressed very quickly but we haven’t really learned anything outside of that. I think the pace on some things might be too fast. I think the show is pulling smallville and Gotham by leaning too hard on certain future things like a crutch. At times the stakes are played as big but feel hollow. The show does occasionally rise to the challenge from a visual and action standpoint but game of thrones it isn’t. It tries to present itself as that but it’s a poor mans version of that. I have liked Colin Salmon a heck of a lot but goyer just had to go for the most cliche predictable revelation possible. I called it as soon as the character showed up. I’m hoping he’s lying because if not it’s so lazy and stupid. Goyer has good idea but once again his flaws of flow pace and execution are on full display here. Things aren’t given the time to sink in. I will give the show credit for brainiac. This is the best live action version of any brainiac. He really comes off as a disturbing inhuman monster.  |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 19, 2018 0:17:43 GMT -5
I think most people have jumped ship but I’m trying to hang in there for the finale. It’s been a mixed bag. It feels like a lot is happening yet nothing is happening. It’s strange. The main story has progressed very quickly but we haven’t really learned anything outside of that. I think the pace on some things might be too fast. I think the show is pulling smallville and Gotham by leaning too hard on certain future things like a crutch. At times the stakes are played as big but feel hollow. The show does occasionally rise to the challenge from a visual and action standpoint but game of thrones it isn’t. It tries to present itself as that but it’s a poor mans version of that. I have liked Colin Salmon a heck of a lot but goyer just had to go for the most cliche predictable revelation possible. I called it as soon as the character showed up. I’m hoping he’s lying because if not it’s so lazy and stupid. Goyer has good idea but once again his flaws of flow pace and execution are on full display here. Things aren’t given the time to sink in. I will give the show credit for brainiac. This is the best live action version of any brainiac. He really comes off as a disturbing inhuman monster. I can only imagine what this show might have been like if it was given to Ronald D. Moore or Manny Cotto to world build. Goyer I've found always has some good ideas, but underwhelming execution without a good partner. |
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Post by Metallo on May 19, 2018 8:18:52 GMT -5
It would have been better. BSG and Caprica faces the same limitations as this show but were so much better. I honestly can’t believe they went with such low hanging fruit. I called most of the shows shocks in the first few episodes. It’s gimmick instead of quality to draw viewers. It’s a shame because it could have been a good show. I’d excuse the limitations of tv budget if it was just written better. The actors are decent enough. The cg is decent enough. It’s just not very creative and it’s not like it’s impossible.
Babylon 5 was dealing with the same limitations 25 years ago and yet JMS managed to craft an epic piece of storytelling. Krypton can’t even manage to get off the same sh!tty tiny hallway sets when B5 was giving us other worlds and interstellar conflict and Shakespearean drama. Krypton should by any right be an easier show to produce because the technology has come so far and is cheaper to do than the cgi in the b5 days of 93. They’re even both Warner bros shows.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 19, 2018 14:08:16 GMT -5
It would have been better. BSG and Caprica faces the same limitations as this show but were so much better. I honestly can’t believe they went with such low hanging fruit. I called most of the shows shocks in the first few episodes. It’s gimmick instead of quality to draw viewers. It’s a shame because it could have been a good show. I’d excuse the limitations of tv budget if it was just written better. The actors are decent enough. The cg is decent enough. It’s just not very creative and it’s not like it’s impossible. Babylon 5 was dealing with the same limitations 25 years ago and yet JMS managed to craft an epic piece of storytelling. Krypton can’t even manage to get off the same sh!tty tiny hallway sets when B5 was giving us other worlds and interstellar conflict and Shakespearean drama. Krypton should by any right be an easier show to produce because the technology has come so far and is cheaper to do than the cgi in the b5 days of 93. They’re even both Warner bros shows. I bought all five seasons of B5, but oddly have never been able to get through the whole thing yet, despite lot of raves from fans. (Much easier to go through DS9- I have no problem with that, oddly.) JMS I admire from a distance for having a five year plan for his series, whether it would be renewed for not each year & writing most of the episodes. I know he's said it's his version of a sci-fi novel on tv. Wonder what JMS is doing now? I wonder... |
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Post by Metallo on May 19, 2018 14:25:46 GMT -5
JMS has had his fair share of misses but he’s had a lot of hits too. He’s worked for marvel comics and if they had any sense they’d have home working on marvel tv shows. He’s got a lot more experience in television than Loeb did. He’s the guy who made real ghostbusters what it was when it was great and he made one of the most underrated kids shows with captain power doing things that few kids shows did back then. B5 speaks for itself.
B5 is so serialized and involved that it makes for a long watch but it’s worth it. Great storytelling. When it’s all over you’ll find yourself saying “Oh! That’s what that meant five seasons ago”. Everything is for a reason and most of it hangs together. It’s very operatic in its storytelling and it’s acting though. Very broad and big. It’s not as subtle as TNG and DS9. Tastes may vary on that. But if you look up the term space opera you’re probably going to see a photo from Babylon 5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 19, 2018 14:31:50 GMT -5
JMS has had his fair share of misses but he’s had a lot of hits too. He’s worked for marvel comics and if they had any sense they’d have home working on marvel tv shows. He’s got a lot more experience in television than Loeb did. He’s the guy who made real ghostbusters what it was when it was great and he made one of the most underrated kids shows with captain power doing things that few kids shows did back then. B5 speaks for itself. B5 is so serialized and involved that it makes for a long watch but it’s worth it. Great storytelling. When it’s all over you’ll find yourself saying “Oh! That’s what that meant five seasons ago”. Everything is for a reason and most of it hangs together. It’s very operatic in its storytelling and it’s acting though. Very broad and big. It’s not as subtle as TNG and DS9. Tastes may vary on that. But if you look up the term space opera you’re probably going to see a photo from Babylon 5 I don't mind serialized at all- I thought TNG and DS9 worked best often when they did, I think it's keeping track of all the moving parts so far that I'm feeling lazy on (I got halfway through season two and stopped, though I own them all). I have to mention that I was always a little bothered by how the leaders would seem to always be getting pilots killed every few episodes in space, but not really be all that torn up about it. But, I did admire that B5 dared to take on the Trek empire when Trek was at its height of popularity. When life slows down hopefully I can do a binge watch- of 5 seasons from start to finish.  |
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Post by Metallo on May 19, 2018 15:39:27 GMT -5
I think most shows like that are guilty of the redshirt mentality. I think that’s just the nature of being a military commander. Mourning comes later and those are the risks. But B5 did recognize when people lost their lives in the line of duty. The pilots who fought on “the line” during the earth mimbauri war were almost revered and it was seen as a turning point in history.
Being serialized can make it harder for some people to jump into a show cold because it’s a lot take in. I was lucky enough to watch B5 from day one when it premiered in 93 so I had no expectations going in. I just saw the pilot on tv one night.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 19, 2018 19:35:42 GMT -5
I think most shows like that are guilty of the redshirt mentality. I think that’s just the nature of being a military commander. Mourning comes later and those are the risks. But B5 did recognize when people lost their lives in the line of duty. The pilots who fought on “the line” during the earth mimbauri war were almost revered and it was seen as a turning point in history. Being serialized can make it harder for some people to jump into a show cold because it’s a lot take in. I was lucky enough to watch B5 from day one when it premiered in 93 so I had no expectations going in. I just saw the pilot on tv one night. I loved the pilot and saw it when it first aired. Also I think most of season 1- but it did bug me a bit when the lead actor got replaced by Bruce Boxleitner. Do you know what the story was behind that? |
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Post by Metallo on May 19, 2018 21:01:24 GMT -5
Yeah that’s finally come out. Pretty sad
JMS said he wouldn’t get into it until after Michael O’Hares death and once he died it was revealed that O’Hare was dealing with some serious mental health problems. It was so bad that he couldn’t function and was seeing things and just losing touch with reality. O’Hare asked to leave the show but did come back for guest spots to tie up his characters story later on.
All in all I thought the transition from Sinclair to Sheridan was handled pretty well and where they ended up seemed to be what JMS intended. It was just the journey there that changed. He had to deal with the same thing when Claudia Christian left in season 4.
This stuff does eventually get out there. Reminds me of the real reason Gates McFadden leaving TNG finally getting revealed.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 20, 2018 1:46:24 GMT -5
Yeah that’s finally come out. Pretty sad JMS said he wouldn’t get into it until after Michael O’Hares death and once he died it was revealed that O’Hare was dealing with some serious mental health problems. It was so bad that he couldn’t function and was seeing things and just losing touch with reality. O’Hare asked to leave the show but did come back for guest spots to tie up his characters story later on. All in all I thought the transition from Sinclair to Sheridan was handled pretty well and where they ended up seemed to be what JMS intended. It was just the journey there that changed. He had to deal with the same thing when Claudia Christian left in season 4. This stuff does eventually get out there. Reminds me of the real reason Gates McFadden leaving TNG finally getting revealed. WOW. That is really sad. A similar thing happened to the actress who played Ally McBeal's best friend on that show. For the longest time I thought it might have been something like personal arguments, nothing as severe as that. Again- wow, just feel bad for that actor. Then, there's the stuff with Jennifer Lien on Voyager. One tends to forget that the folks onscreen are human beings just like everyone else. Why did Gates McFadden leave TNG btw? I assumed that she was being too difficult initially, but what was it? |
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Post by Metallo on May 20, 2018 11:04:38 GMT -5
Yeah that’s finally come out. Pretty sad JMS said he wouldn’t get into it until after Michael O’Hares death and once he died it was revealed that O’Hare was dealing with some serious mental health problems. It was so bad that he couldn’t function and was seeing things and just losing touch with reality. O’Hare asked to leave the show but did come back for guest spots to tie up his characters story later on. All in all I thought the transition from Sinclair to Sheridan was handled pretty well and where they ended up seemed to be what JMS intended. It was just the journey there that changed. He had to deal with the same thing when Claudia Christian left in season 4. This stuff does eventually get out there. Reminds me of the real reason Gates McFadden leaving TNG finally getting revealed. WOW. That is really sad. A similar thing happened to the actress who played Ally McBeal's best friend on that show. For the longest time I thought it might have been something like personal arguments, nothing as severe as that. Again- wow, just feel bad for that actor. Then, there's the stuff with Jennifer Lien on Voyager. One tends to forget that the folks onscreen are human beings just like everyone else. Why did Gates McFadden leave TNG btw? I assumed that she was being too difficult initially, but what was it? She was being harassed by one of the producers from season 1. I can’t remember his name or if it was personal or sexual but everyone’s now said he was an @ss and it’s not coincidence that once he was shown the door the show got better. Once he was gone McFadden was invited back. At the time the official story was she wanted to spend more time with her son then for a while I thought it was something like Denise Crosby wanting to do other stuff. Frakes and Spiner have admitted she as a stage actress was embarrassed to be doing Star Trek and that’s why she didn’t use her real name of Cheryl McFadden and went by “Gates” Now I wonder if Crosby may have left for the same reason McFadden did. That’s sort of why Grace Lee Whitney left TOS but that was a full blown rape attempt according to her. That’s a good point about Lein. I always assumed they wrote her out to make way for Jeri Ryan but now she’s got serious mental problems so maybe that had something to do with it. She did come back for voyager though so it couldn’t have been that bad. O’Hare also came back for B5 so they were on good terms. What I respect so much is that everyone on the show kept that secret for so long. There was never anyone saying the real reason. Usually you can tell what kind of terms someone leaves a show on if they come back or not and how often it is. If it’s really bad they usually kill them off and they never come back. See everyone who left Sliders. Seems like they all left because of issues behind the scenes with various people. Once Tracy Torme wasn’t running the show anymore there were problems. Fresh Prince was a great example. Full blown replacement of the aunt. Sitcoms seem to suffer this the most. I’d still like to know exactly why Terry Farrel left DS9. I assumed it was a contract negotiation/pay issue since all the contracts may have been up for negotiation by season 6. |
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Post by crazy_asian_man on May 20, 2018 12:12:13 GMT -5
WOW. That is really sad. A similar thing happened to the actress who played Ally McBeal's best friend on that show. For the longest time I thought it might have been something like personal arguments, nothing as severe as that. Again- wow, just feel bad for that actor. Then, there's the stuff with Jennifer Lien on Voyager. One tends to forget that the folks onscreen are human beings just like everyone else. Why did Gates McFadden leave TNG btw? I assumed that she was being too difficult initially, but what was it? She was being harassed by one of the producers from season 1. I can’t remember his name or if it was personal or sexual but everyone’s now said he was an @ss and it’s not coincidence that once he was shown the door the show got better. Once he was gone McFadden was invited back. At the time the official story was she wanted to spend more time with her son then for a while I thought it was something like Denise Crosby wanting to do other stuff. Frakes and Spiner have admitted she as a stage actress was embarrassed to be doing Star Trek and that’s why she didn’t use her real name of Cheryl McFadden and went by “Gates” Now I wonder if Crosby may have left for the same reason McFadden did. That’s sort of why Grace Lee Whitney left TOS but that was a full blown rape attempt according to her. That’s a good point about Lein. I always assumed they wrote her out to make way for Jeri Ryan but now she’s got serious mental problems so maybe that had something to do with it. She did come back for voyager though so it couldn’t have been that bad. O’Hare also came back for B5 so they were on good terms. What I respect so much is that everyone on the show kept that secret for so long. There was never anyone saying the real reason. Usually you can tell what kind of terms someone leaves a show on if they come back or not and how often it is. If it’s really bad they usually kill them off and they never come back. See everyone who left Sliders. Seems like they all left because of issues behind the scenes with various people. Once Tracy Torme wasn’t running the show anymore there were problems. Fresh Prince was a great example. Full blown replacement of the aunt. Sitcoms seem to suffer this the most. I’d still like to know exactly why Terry Farrel left DS9. I assumed it was a contract negotiation/pay issue since all the contracts may have been up for negotiation by season 6. If it was personal harassment- plus, the idea of her being embarrassed to be on the show - It does give me pause to wonder about whether or not there was more to the story.... Moore and Braga on their commentary seemed to mention how much they would give Gates a bad time in writing- hard to tell if they were joking or not. (Notice in Generations two things: when Geordi gets his visor back and the Klingons look through his eyes at Dr. Crusher and says, "Humans... are so ugly."- and how Dr. Crusher ended up getting dunked in the water? (Worff did too, but...)) In any case, the casting change to the other doctor really felt 'off' in season two. I am glad that Gates returned the season after, as that ensemble really had a harmony to it. About DS9 and Terry Farrel-- Well, Farrel is joining other cast members onstage for Trek shows and sharing stuff- so, things couldn't have been that bad. But- I do remember a number of reports (even from Michael Dorn) talking about how loose and laid back the TNG cast was, versus how serious and stiff shooting on DS9 was. (Dorn said when he came on in the later seasons, he had to encourage the crew to relax and enjoy themselves). In looking at other panels around the time with DS9 members- I don't have proof, but I wonder if Avery Brooks' seriousness made everyone else on set, set the tone? With TNG, the cast there has often talked about how Patrick Stewart blew up at his cast members for joking around on season 1 for goofing around, but then that was the moment that Stewart gave in and defended the cast to enjoy themselves and kid around while working the long days- which apparently led to the whole cast bonding big time. (Marina has often talked about how they really became a big clique that would end up huddling in a corner ignoring everyone else at many gatherings.) At a giant Trek getogether on stage in London (I believe), there was a gathering of the captains from all the Treks- and it was somewhat painful to watch Brooks not look chummy but somewhat unhappy to be on stage- and maybe it's just a difference of style, but it wasn't the typical warm and fuzzy that you'd see from a lot of Trek actors on stage. (Though to be fair, there have been other DS9 getogethers where he did seem more like he was enjoying being there with co-stars). Joss Whedon has said that the leading man/woman on a show usually sets the tone for the rest of the cast- and that since his lead actor for Firefly Nathan Fillon was such a jokester, that that cast had a happy time shooting--- and in seeing him on stage a few times with his costars from Firefly- he was so funny and entertaining, the was the anti-Shatner. You could see that they all loved him and one another. (Where's that Firefly tv revival?) Anyhow- back to Farrel- I read somewhere that she never really felt grounded on the character at the age she was at- it sounds like the set was a drag to be on- and she was there for years- so when the contracts were back up for negotiation, she wanted to do something new & did Becker. Ironically, her leaving made the last season WAY more interesting by adding in another younger Dax. The bummer part when there was a montage at the last episode, that Farrel didn't give the ok for her footage to be used - to which Ron Moore has said he wasn't happy about at all. On the flip side, Farrel has said how the years have made her look at things differently and feels/felt that she would have had more insight into playing Dax NOW than then. But- glad if her leaving was not due to any harassment. |
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