DC Films news: new Robin film “Dynamic Duo” announced

[Metallo]

Batman’s the golden goose. I think they feel they’ve had too much success with it to let the character sit collecting dust. I also think they’ll use Batman to spinoff other characters. He and Joker were a tremendous boost to Suicide Squads box office and they know it. Personally I’m fine with it. Reeves is a good director and the further away we get from Zack Snyder the better IMO. I’d be fine with them rebooting everything but were stuck with a lot because of the mixed success of the dceu.

[crazy_asian_man]

Feb 14, 2020 22:12:58 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Batman’s the golden goose. I think they feel they’ve had too much success with it to let the character sit collecting dust. I also think they’ll use Batman to spinoff other characters. He and Joker were a tremendous boost to Suicide Squads box office and they know it. Personally I’m fine with it. Reeves is a good director and the further away we get from Zack Snyder the better IMO. I’d be fine with them rebooting everything but were stuck with a lot because of the mixed success of the dceu.

Here's the thing:
WIth Reeve's Superman-
With Nolan's Batman-
With Raimi's Spiderman-
And sort of with the Fox X-men (though to a lesser degree)-

It would have been nice to see ONE solo comic book franchise with the same creative team really have a continuous string of adaptations that pushed out the best of what the comics had to offer.
Marvel is of course the gold standard ahead of the pack- but even then, I could have seen more solo Captain America films told before they stopped-

Nolan's Batman could have tasted easily another 2 or 3 films--- one solely with Catwoman, one solely with the Riddler and many of the other villains in his rogue's gallery.
Of course, the same with Sam Raimi's Spiderman.

Imo- Superman only got a movie and a half before being derailed.... so, that's my take on it. I'm sure Pattinson will be fine, but it's hard to connect too much to an actor to a character if it'll change hands again in a film or two.

[Metallo]

I think it looks great. Much like the new batsuit it’s in line with Reeves aesthetic of real world and hand built instead of the fantastical style of the Burton and Schumacher Batmobiles or the expensive tactical/military look of the Nolan and Snyder cars. It looks sleek, mean, and fast almost like a muscle car.

[crazy_asian_man]

Hmmm...
It looks different. I think I'm just adjusting to so many reboots of Batman in what feels like a short time.

[Metallo]

Feb 15, 2020 1:26:37 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Feb 14, 2020 22:12:58 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Batman’s the golden goose. I think they feel they’ve had too much success with it to let the character sit collecting dust. I also think they’ll use Batman to spinoff other characters. He and Joker were a tremendous boost to Suicide Squads box office and they know it. Personally I’m fine with it. Reeves is a good director and the further away we get from Zack Snyder the better IMO. I’d be fine with them rebooting everything but were stuck with a lot because of the mixed success of the dceu.

Here's the thing:
WIth Reeve's Superman-
With Nolan's Batman-
With Raimi's Spiderman-
And sort of with the Fox X-men (though to a lesser degree)-

It would have been nice to see ONE solo comic book franchise with the same creative team really have a continuous string of adaptations that pushed out the best of what the comics had to offer.
Marvel is of course the gold standard ahead of the pack- but even then, I could have seen more solo Captain America films told before they stopped-

Nolan's Batman could have tasted easily another 2 or 3 films--- one solely with Catwoman, one solely with the Riddler and many of the other villains in his rogue's gallery.
Of course, the same with Sam Raimi's Spiderman.

Imo- Superman only got a movie and a half before being derailed.... so, that's my take on it. I'm sure Pattinson will be fine, but it's hard to connect too much to an actor to a character if it'll change hands again in a film or two.

Well that’s true about all franchises but most of them of any kind don’t seem to be able to get that many movies out working crashing and burning. Even when they don’t unlike characters in the comics the actors can’t or won’t go on forever. They get old or they want to move on. You could recast but it’s not like the comics equivalent of a new writer and artist. Audiences usually don’t have the same reaction to that kind to change compared to comic fans.

[Metallo]

Mar 4, 2020 19:24:01 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Hmmm...
It looks different. I think I'm just adjusting to so many reboots of Batman in what feels like a short time.

Seems to be true of all big franchises that get remade now. Reboots and remakes come faster and faster with less down time.

As for the batmobile when I look at it it reminds me of a few comic and cartoon versions like Neal Adams, Norm Breyfogles, and even the superfriends batmobile.

[crazy_asian_man]

Mar 4, 2020 19:49:44 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Mar 4, 2020 19:24:01 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Hmmm...
It looks different. I think I'm just adjusting to so many reboots of Batman in what feels like a short time.

Seems to be true of all big franchises that get remade now. Reboots and remakes come faster and faster with less down time.

As for the batmobile when I look at it it reminds me of a few comic and cartoon versions like Neal Adams, Norm Breyfogles, and even the superfriends batmobile.

I think the selling point will be: 'Does this particular story & version DEMAND to be told?' --- as a litmus test.

Nolan's first two Batman films had to be told--- Not so sure about Batman vs. Superman.

[Metallo]

I’m not sure most stories “demand” to be told. It’s all about if there’s a good interesting take. BvS had potential to be great but they had the wrong take on it. Execution is incredibly important. We’ve seen the same stories told well and different new stories told poorly. If Reeves has a fresh interesting spin on Batman people will respond to it.

[crazy_asian_man]

Mar 5, 2020 7:54:45 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I’m not sure most stories “demand” to be told. It’s all about if there’s a good interesting take. BvS had potential to be great but they had the wrong take on it. Execution is incredibly important. We’ve seen the same stories told well and different new stories told poorly. If Reeves has a fresh interesting spin on Batman people will respond to it.

For me with superhero films... having grown up adoring comics as a big source of joy--- my own take is perhaps different than the mainstream when I hear a comic book adaptation was being done.

The thing with Donner's Superman was--- a sense of being an epic story in scale and seriousness. It had a sense of joy and sense of humor of course, but- having every frame and every shot be 'perfect' made one feel like this wanted to be an adaptation 'for all time' and be THE adaptation- and it certainly has overcome the test of time.

One thing I always tout to friends who are sick of me praising Superman Returns is my admiration at the lack of ego and acknowledgement that Donner's version of the origin story was going to be almost impossible to beat- and so it didn't try to reinvent the wheel (as opposed to Man of Steel). It was SO easy to do a reboot- that getting a 'sorta sequel' greenlit was impressive in and of itself, I thought...

Also- with something like Superman and Batman (and X-men to a lesser degree)- you have DECADES of wonderful stories--- and if you mash them all up into a 'definitive' set of movies- with the proper tlc- I think there are/were opportunity for 'franchise classics'--- just like the first Lord of the RIngs trilogy.

We have SOME 'partial series classics' imo for superhero films imo- (by or influenced by Donner perhaps not coincidentally)

Spiderman 1 & 2
Batman Begins/ Dark Knight
Superman 1 & 1/2 of 2

With the Marvel Cinematic Universe, it's an impressive package all of its own- with mixed results. I don't know if you could call any of individual movie series in particular (perhaps the Captain America series comes the closest) 'franchise classics'- but it's a gigantic quilt of mostly better than average to excellent pieces that really stands apart on its own.

[Metallo]

I’m assuming we’ve all read the rumors on various websites? Thoughts? I love it. It’s DC finally taking full advantage of their Complete on screen history and the Flash movie has had so many problems getting off the ground that it needs every bit of help it can get to raise people’s interests. DC’s had a problem with a fractured fandom for a long time and how to get all the different camps with all their different preferences to support any new project. By tying it all together with a multiversal story this might be the way to do it. It also solves the issue of who is going to be the DCEU Batman with Affleck gone and the Pattinson film being separate. Keaton won’t be playing Affleck’s Batman but his Batman will be filling a similar role of older veteran/mentor to other heroes.

It’s also the kind of thing Marvel doesn’t have and can’t do as well yet. Sure they can play around with different universes but they don’t have access to nearly as many previous projects as WB does with DC adaptations. This is a way the DCEU can offer something different that the MCU can’t do quite as in depth.

[crazy_asian_man]

Jun 23, 2020 17:38:22 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I’m assuming we’ve all read the rumors on various websites? Thoughts? I love it. It’s DC finally taking full advantage of their Complete on screen history and the Flash movie has had so many problems getting off the ground that it needs every bit of help it can get to raise people’s interests. DC’s had a problem with a fractured fandom for a long time and how to get all the different camps with all their different preferences to support any new project. By tying it all together with a multiversal story this might be the way to do it. It also solves the issue of who is going to be the DCEU Batman with Affleck gone and the Pattinson film being separate. Keaton won’t be playing Affleck’s Batman but his Batman will be filling a similar role of older veteran/mentor to other heroes.

It’s also the kind of thing Marvel doesn’t have and can’t do as well yet. Sure they can play around with different universes but they don’t have access to nearly as many previous projects as WB does with DC adaptations. This is a way the DCEU can offer something different that the MCU can’t do quite as in depth.

I'll be more excited when they call in Brandon back perhaps. If they also bring in Bale, that would be awesome.

[Metallo]

Art by Jim Lee

[Metallo]

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Ben Affleck To Return As Batman In Upcoming ‘Flash’ Movie That Also Will Feature Michael Keaton As Dark Knight

Anthony D'Alessandro
August 20, 2020 12:15PM PDT

Sources have confirmed that Ben Affleck is returning as Batman in the upcoming Flash movie which Warner Bros. is putting into production. It is to be a cameo role. And, yes, Affleck will be playing the Dark Knight alongside Michael Keaton’s Batman from the 1989 Tim Burton film, in what is billed by Flash director Andy Muscietti as a “substantial” part. The Flash is scheduled for release on June 3, 2022. Ezra Miller, who played Flash in Justice League, plays the title role.

Despite being involved in early development on Matt Reeves’ The Batman, Affleck stepped away from reprising the role in that movie in January 2019, as we first told you.


Affleck reportedly got the script for The Flash at the end of last week and agreed to board the project.

“He’s a very substantial part of the emotional impact of the movie. The interaction and relationship between Barry and Affleck’s Wayne will bring an emotional level that we haven’t seen before,” Muschietti tells Vanity Fair who broke the news. “It’s Barry’s movie, it’s Barry’s story, but their characters are more related than we think. They both lost their mothers to murder, and that’s one of the emotional vessels of the movie. That’s where the Affleck Batman kicks in.”

Another reason feature mythology-wise why Affleck’s Batman is coming back to The Flash, and that’s that Miller’s Flash considers him to be the original Dark Knight, the guy he fought alongside in Justice League. Hence, per Muschietti, it was necessary to have Affleck’s Batman as a starting point: “He’s the baseline. He’s part of that unaltered state before we jump into Barry’s adventure…There’s a familiarity there,” he further tells Vanity Fair.

Warner Bros. is hosting a DC Fandome virtual confab for its superhero movies this Saturday with panels for the new Flash movie, Wonder Woman 1984, Aquaman, Shazam!, The Batman, Black Adam, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman 1984.

Well I'm shocked. He pretty much said "I quit" on national tv. They really are doing everything they can to save Ezra Miller's Flash movie. I guess Affleck was off the booze long enough to get better and change his mind. Is Keaton still involved or are they going off old info since his casting was never confirmed only that there were rumored talks.

[EnriqueH]

I like Affleck as Batman. Glad he’s back

[Metallo]

New Wonder Woman 84 trailer


I like this one a lot more than the last one.

[Metallo]

The Suicide Squad lineup video and behind the scenes footage

[Metallo]

[Metallo]

And this is with just a few weeks of shooting before they were shut down? Jesus...I’m totally in for this one. A breath of fresh air after the overly stylized cgi action sequences from Snyder. The warehouse fight looked like a video game compared to this. Jeffrey Wright is looking like he’s gonna kill it as Gordon.

[EnriqueH]

Love all the trailers, except for the Alleluia Snyder Cut tráileres which was funeral durgy.

[dejan]

Definitely looks intriguing.


One personal gripe.....and that is the use of Nirvana's Something In The Way...….just feels weird because Nirvana, to the best of my knowledge, have never had their music put to anything.

I am a huge Nirvana fan and their music and Cobain's voice in particular, is so distinctive that it is hard to concentrate on visuals …….with their music playing in the background...…..but that's just my opinion!

But there are pictures of Cobain dressed up as batman when he was a kid......so there maybe something poetic to it! 

[Metallo]

We can probably thank Courtney Love getting most of the music rights and making deals with them for that. And unfortunately for a lot of other things.

I did find it weird at first since I always thought certain members of the group didn’t like the idea of their music being so corporatized. Not sure how they’d all feel about this. However I also thought it was a great musical choice to set the mood Reeves is going for.

[EnriqueH]

“Hunna Nah Nah Nah”....it was good trailer music. I used to love Nirvana back in the day, but I’ve pretty much renounced all that angry rock music. Give me glam 80s hair bands any day. I’d rather get plastered with Motley Crue, who seem way more fun, than sharing angsty platitudes with Cobain. Life is too short. Cobain has it all and any aspiring musician would die to have his audience and he threw it all away. Cobain’s a loser. Sorry, I’ll get off my soapbox now. They had good sound.

[crazy_asian_man]

Aug 24, 2020 13:08:40 GMT -5 EnriqueH said:

Love all the trailers, except for the Alleluia Snyder Cut tráileres which was funeral durgy.

The Alleluia made me cringe a bit as 'too much'--- but I still am curious what the Snyder cut will bring. At the minimum, great eye candy and cosplay I hope...

[dejan]

Aug 25, 2020 20:56:39 GMT -5 EnriqueH said:

“Hunna Nah Nah Nah”....it was good trailer music. I used to love Nirvana back in the day, but I’ve pretty much renounced all that angry rock music. Give me glam 80s hair bands any day. I’d rather get plastered with Motley Crue, who seem way more fun, than sharing angsty platitudes with Cobain. Life is too short. Cobain has it all and any aspiring musician would die to have his audience and he threw it all away. Cobain’s a loser. Sorry, I’ll get off my soapbox now. They had good sound.

I personally never saw the correlation between the fact that Batman was effectively the "angsty" super hero in DC's mainstream repertoire...……...and Nirvana were the "angsty" corporate behemoths on Geffen's record label back in the early 1990s.
It's taken some Hollywood creative artists 30 years to make that connection......and hence why we have the trailer with Nirvana's tune playing in the background.

Personally it took a few seconds to digest that(having never witnessed Nirvana's music being put to a film before).
Would be curious what the opinion of someone who has not heard Nirvana's music before...….was to this trailer.
They may think it is music made specifically for the film!
 

[dejan]

Aug 25, 2020 19:08:13 GMT -5 Metallo said:

We can probably thank Courtney Love getting most of the music rights and making deals with them for that. And unfortunately for a lot of other things.

I did find it weird at first since I always thought certain members of the group didn’t like the idea of their music being so corporatized. Not sure how they’d all feel about this. However I also thought it was a great musical choice to set the mood Reeves is going for.

hehe

Well that is a whole other thread and maybe on another board to discuss Love's influence on how Nirvana's music is being used in contemporary culture(be it cinematic....or musical).

Totally agree what you say though.
Maybe Nirvana have signed the rights to use other songs of theirs in other parts of this film.

Might be curious to see Batman duffin' up a couple of thugs to Territorial Pissings!