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Post by Metallo on Nov 23, 2020 14:09:09 GMT -5
One of the more controversial aspects of the first season of Titans was Starfires look. Thankfully they look to be updating it to something more comic accurate.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Nov 27, 2020 14:04:51 GMT -5
I feel bad for the actress- the costume doesn't look bad, but the writing and characterization was a mess on the tv show. There are a lot of good bits or potential good bits on the seasons that I see often torn to shreds by sloppy execution or poor writing or both. The Connor Kent episode was excellent, though- and showed what was possible when everything is done right. Hopefully season 3 improves.
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Post by Metallo on Feb 18, 2021 14:25:30 GMT -5
ew.com/tv/john-wesley-shipp-the-flash-stargirl-season-2/Wonderful news since more John Wesley Shipp as Jay is always a good thing. It leaves me with a lot of questions though. Jay is on Earth 3 while Stargirl takes place on the new post crisis Earth 2. I’d always assumed that earth had a golden age flash of its own. Will Shipps Jay be hopping earths or will Stargirls world merge with one of the others? Probably the former. Question is why?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 18, 2021 21:15:12 GMT -5
ew.com/tv/john-wesley-shipp-the-flash-stargirl-season-2/Wonderful news since more John Wesley Shipp as Jay is always a good thing. It leaves me with a lot of questions though. Jay is on Earth 3 while Stargirl takes place on the new post crisis Earth 2. I’d always assumed that earth had a golden age flash of its own. Will Shipps Jay be hopping earths or will Stargirls world merge with one of the others? Probably the former. Question is why? Absolutely! (So glad that Shipp is controversy free as an aside...) I'm glad that they didn't 'resseurect' the Flash as it had a great crisis-sendoff... but glad they found a way to bring back Shipp in the very-credible Jay Garrick version! I can only wonder how happy Shipp might have been to get the call to return once his character died off in Crisis!
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Post by Metallo on Feb 19, 2021 7:32:00 GMT -5
ew.com/tv/john-wesley-shipp-the-flash-stargirl-season-2/Wonderful news since more John Wesley Shipp as Jay is always a good thing. It leaves me with a lot of questions though. Jay is on Earth 3 while Stargirl takes place on the new post crisis Earth 2. I’d always assumed that earth had a golden age flash of its own. Will Shipps Jay be hopping earths or will Stargirls world merge with one of the others? Probably the former. Question is why? Absolutely! (So glad that Shipp is controversy free as an aside...) I'm glad that they didn't 'resseurect' the Flash as it had a great crisis-sendoff... but glad they found a way to bring back Shipp in the very-credible Jay Garrick version! I can only wonder how happy Shipp might have been to get the call to return once his character died off in Crisis! Well Shipp has been playing Jay for years. He played Jay long before they brought him back as Barry Allen for Elseworlds. If you count his run as Henry Allen in the early seasons of The Flash he's played three characters in the Arrowverse.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Feb 19, 2021 12:35:55 GMT -5
True... but because Stargirl's earth was established at the end of Crisis as being 'another earth'- they could have recast Shipp and be credible --- but glad that they didn't!
The quality is great on Stargirl, but.... I kind of wish it was aimed at an older audience- or that Geoff Johns could 'fix' the Teen Titans show that's also part of the Berliantiverse...
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Post by Metallo on Apr 17, 2021 17:39:35 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on May 19, 2021 12:58:14 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/timm-abrams-set-batman-caped-crusader/I like the look of the poster art. It reminds me of that Batman: Strange Days short Bruce Timm did for Batman’s 75th anniversary. Reeves involved? Ok. Timms been hit or miss. Hate seeing JJ Abrams name on anything but at least he’s only producing. This show doesn’t need him but he gets to profit off it by putting his name on it which sucks.
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Post by Metallo on Jun 9, 2021 12:15:09 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Jun 14, 2021 19:09:55 GMT -5
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 14, 2021 20:33:46 GMT -5
So WB is seeming to focus on ‘straight to vhs/streaming’.... hmn..so glad Kevin Feige set the bar HIGH for that. if not, I think we’d get a another ‘Inhumans’ quality tv show.... so the pressure is on- a good thing!
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Post by Metallo on Jun 17, 2021 21:28:16 GMT -5
Teaser trailer
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jun 17, 2021 22:34:58 GMT -5
There's so much good stuff on this show - (cast, production values, Geoff Johns)- unfortunately it's also marred by a poor showrunner (Akiva Goldman)- who feels a need to land an 'f' bomb every two seconds...
On the plus side- Marvel is showing that it's the story that counts, not the amount of f bombs. I don't think I'm a prude, but it's ridiculous how many f-bombs land unnecessarily in this show.... which I would forgive if there weren't so many clunky scenes that don't land. But- again, there's a lot of good I really like in the show...
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Post by Metallo on Jul 15, 2021 0:27:58 GMT -5
Full trailer
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 15, 2021 23:40:42 GMT -5
There's a lot to appreciate in TItans, i just wish it had a better showrunner- but you definitely can't fault the production values, especially comparing it to half of the underwhelming Marvel Netflix series. Hopefully they lighten up on the F bombs in season 3....
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Post by Metallo on Jul 16, 2021 0:20:37 GMT -5
One problem with Titans is it feels more like it’s trying to be a Batman universe show instead of a Titans show. That’s something the Teen Titans animated series avoided and I think it helped to give that show some focus. Titans seems to be trying to juggle way too many different things with Jason Todd/Red Hoods story, Tim Drake, Barbara Gordon, etc. Everything is very crammed together and accelerated and none of it is given the proper time to be explored. This was stuff that was covered in decades worth of comics but the show tries to shove it all into one or two seasons.
The writing isn’t good enough as it is but by trying to lure people in with more Batman material it’s spreading everything thin and taking the focus off what the show should be about. It’s also trying way too hard to be edgy. Nothing wrong with an edgy Titans series but it’s so overdone at times that it’s almost comical.
Meanwhile you look at the far superior Doom Patrol series and it’s got its own identity and does a better job of focusing on and building its core characters.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 16, 2021 1:54:18 GMT -5
One problem with Titans is it feels more like it’s trying to be a Batman universe show instead of a Titans show. That’s something the Teen Titans animated series avoided and I think it helped to give that show some focus. Titans seems to be trying to juggle way too many different things with Jason Todd/Red Hoods story, Tim Drake, Barbara Gordon, etc. Everything is very crammed together and accelerated and none of it is given the proper time to be explored. This was stuff that was covered in decades worth of comics but the show tries to shove it all into one or two seasons. The writing isn’t good enough as it is but by trying to lure people in with more Batman material it’s spreading everything thin and taking the focus off what the show should be about. It’s also trying way too hard to be edgy. Nothing wrong with an edgy Titans series but it’s so overdone at times that it’s almost comical. Meanwhile you look at the far superior Doom Patrol series and it’s got its own identity and does a better job of focusing on and building its core characters. What's frustrating is that there's some really good stuff in it.... but the problem I see is the main showrunner- Akiva Goldmsan. His other works have had the same problems, that is- the character material is usually a mess and forced. The money is there, most of the cast is good, and there's bits of good here and there, but it just falls short of being a solid show because of the failure to really sell us on the characters and their relationships.... and those are the core of what made the comics Teen Titans special. One of the biggest fails isn't because of the actress, but the design and writing for Starfire- there's no chemistry either between Dick and Kory like there should have been.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 16, 2021 11:44:52 GMT -5
He’s a big issue but the DC streaming experiment has been a mixed bag from the beginning. The problem extends beyond Goldsman and to DC and WB themselves. The continuity issues between Titans and Doom Patrol, the disaster that Swamp Thing was behind the scenes, etc. Moving Stargirl to the CW showed they were more confident it would do better there than on the DCU service and now HBO Max.
They’ve got experienced people involved. I think Berlantis involvement in the streaming shows brings more faith than Goldsman (despite the up and down quality of the Arrowverse) but there’s a lack of strong leadership and vision at the top. The DCU streaming service was never strong enough to succeed. I said it was doomed from the very beginning and I was right. The thinking behind it was all wrong and the new shows cost too much to justify keeping it going. Their business model just wasn’t feasible.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 16, 2021 12:11:36 GMT -5
He’s a big issue but the DC streaming experiment has been a mixed bag from the beginning. The problem extends beyond Goldsman and to DC and WB themselves. The continuity issues between Titans and Doom Patrol, the disaster that Swamp Thing was behind the scenes, etc. Moving Stargirl to the CW showed they were more confident it would do better there than on the DCU service and now HBO Max. They’ve got experienced people involved. I think Berlantis involvement in the streaming shows brings more faith than Goldsman (despite the up and down quality of the Arrowverse) but there’s a lack of strong leadership and vision at the top. The DCU streaming service was never strong enough to succeed. I said it was doomed from the very beginning and I was right. The thinking behind it was all wrong and the new shows cost too much to justify keeping it going. Their business model just wasn’t feasible. Berlianti's in the mix of producers (as well as Geoff Johns)- but it might be too much of a Chris Nolan/ 'hands off' approach to working with Akiva Goldsman for Titans. As far as the mess with Swamp Thing/etc.--- yeah, that's a mess. Stargirl to CW might protect that one. (Really impressed by the quality on that one though I wish it would have been aimed for a slgihtly older audience).
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Post by Metallo on Jul 16, 2021 12:24:12 GMT -5
He’s a big issue but the DC streaming experiment has been a mixed bag from the beginning. The problem extends beyond Goldsman and to DC and WB themselves. The continuity issues between Titans and Doom Patrol, the disaster that Swamp Thing was behind the scenes, etc. Moving Stargirl to the CW showed they were more confident it would do better there than on the DCU service and now HBO Max. They’ve got experienced people involved. I think Berlantis involvement in the streaming shows brings more faith than Goldsman (despite the up and down quality of the Arrowverse) but there’s a lack of strong leadership and vision at the top. The DCU streaming service was never strong enough to succeed. I said it was doomed from the very beginning and I was right. The thinking behind it was all wrong and the new shows cost too much to justify keeping it going. Their business model just wasn’t feasible. Berlianti's in the mix of producers (as well as Geoff Johns)- but it might be too much of a Chris Nolan/ 'hands off' approach to working with Akiva Goldsman for Titans. As far as the mess with Swamp Thing/etc.--- yeah, that's a mess. Stargirl to CW might protect that one. (Really impressed by the quality on that one though I wish it would have been aimed for a slgihtly older audience). Most of these guys are just “put their names on it and get a check” producers. Maybe some notes from Berlanti and Johns but not a lot. The thing is several of their projections have suffered problems not just Goldsmans. That tells me the problems go further up the chain of command. WB has ingrained systemic problems when it comes to DC Comics, how they see it, and how they handle it.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 21, 2021 17:01:38 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/leslie-grace-is-batgirl-for-hbo-max/Christina Hodson must have some blackmail photos of someone in WB. I’ve never seen someone get so many chances to develop so many DC movies before any of them have even come out. There’s no real track record of big superhero movies to look at before she started working on these. Bumblebee was pretty good but not a high hurdle to clear after the crappy Bay movies. Maybe they felt she was right for these kinds of superhero movies with younger characters after that. So far we’ve gotten the Birds of Prey movie she worked on and that wasn’t very good.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 22, 2021 5:34:39 GMT -5
I thought Birds of Prey was better than I expected but that’s not saying much considering what I expected
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Post by Metallo on Jul 22, 2021 9:56:28 GMT -5
It wasn’t awful but I still felt it was a disappointment. It just made me question what the heII WB is doing with DC.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Jul 22, 2021 12:10:51 GMT -5
As an indie movie, I thought it was fun and clever- But as a superhero adaptation- it was a complete disaster imo. It's like the bad part of Smallville's aesthetic- when they seemed embarrassed to get too close to the comics. If they changed the names and didn't cost hundreds of millions of dollars, I would think better of it.
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Post by Metallo on Jul 28, 2021 9:15:45 GMT -5
Their motivation was misguided. They were clearly trying to cash in on the popularity of Harley Quinn ASAP. That came first over a good idea, good film concept, good story, etc.
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