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Post by Metallo on Aug 4, 2019 15:29:58 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/kevin-conroy-to-play-batman-in-live-action/Wow. People have said they wanted it for years. Never thought I’d actually see it in an official thing yet here we are. It’s actually a brilliant workaround since Conroy is too old to play Bruce in his prime now. They really are going all out on this d@mn thing aren’t they? And black lightning is part of it too! About time. Guess this was the only way they could get around using “Batman” at all. Wonder if his old Bruce will borrow from Kingdom Come, Dark Knight Returns, and Batman Beyond?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 5, 2019 22:42:06 GMT -5
www.darkhorizons.com/kevin-conroy-to-play-batman-in-live-action/Wow. People have said they wanted it for years. Never thought I’d actually see it in an official thing yet here we are. It’s actually a brilliant workaround since Conroy is too old to play Bruce in his prime now. They really are going all out on this d@mn thing aren’t they? And black lightning is part of it too! About time. Guess this was the only way they could get around using “Batman” at all. Wonder if his old Bruce will borrow from Kingdom Come, Dark Knight Returns, and Batman Beyond? All I gots to say is: These better not be 'bit' cameos, though!
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Post by Metallo on Aug 6, 2019 13:39:28 GMT -5
I think some of them will be pretty substantial depending on story needs. Others will probably be pretty short. Actor availability will also play a factor.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Aug 6, 2019 15:17:23 GMT -5
I think some of them will be pretty substantial depending on story needs. Others will probably be pretty short. Actor availability will also play a factor. Hoping for the best (an episode of Routh as Clark and Supes) but prepping for the worst (one or no lines cameo)..
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Post by Metallo on Aug 10, 2019 20:01:38 GMT -5
Will Conroy be wearing some kind of powered bat armor? Kingdom Come armor? Dark Knight Returns armor? A mix of both? Something different? Flashbacks that use a digital Batman double?
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Post by Metallo on Sept 19, 2019 14:29:06 GMT -5
www.joblo.com/movie-news/tom-welling-to-reprise-his-smallville-role-for-arrowverse-crossover-eventWell the rumors have swirled for a while now it looks like it’s official. The way they teased Smallvile so hard with the last crossover it’s obvious they wanted to make this happen. Could we see all the Supermen together on screen? It’s too good a moment to pass up. Here hoping Welling acually wears the suit this time. If he doesn’t it’s still exciting that he’s a part of this but seeing him as Superman would really put this over the top.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 20, 2019 14:14:40 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Sept 27, 2019 7:25:25 GMT -5
Man they really are going all out for this damm thing. Never thought I’d see the 03 BOP show revisited but it’s timely with the movie coming. I figured the characters would be off limits but since it’s Helena Kyle/Wayne and not Helena Bertinelli maybe there was a loophole. Wonder if WB will let them use the name? Using Bruce Waynes daughter fits since in comics the Earth 2 Huntress was Helena Wayne. I hope they get Dina Meyer back as Barbara Gordon too.
Sounds like Berlanti is fighting hard to get Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman as well. I hope they can make a deal. C’mon DC don’t get in the way with the usual corporate fiefdom bullish!t.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 27, 2019 7:40:50 GMT -5
Wow...so this is a real thing now. I didn’t even realize they were shooting already. Wellings got the standard farmboy Kent style going on. The big reveal I’m waiting on is to see Routh in a brand new Superman suit and to see all three Supermen together.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 27, 2019 21:49:58 GMT -5
Wow...so this is a real thing now. I didn’t even realize they were shooting already. Wellings got the standard farmboy Kent style going on. The big reveal I’m waiting on is to see Routh in a brand new Superman suit and to see all three Supermen together. HOLY CRAP!!! This is so awesome to see. I got a bad feeling we're not going to see Welling in costume.... STILL--- but, Erica Durance hasn't aged much at all! Great to see this, though. This is one of those things that a fanboy grows up dreaming up & imagining, but never can see happen. There's a giant chunk of the Berliantiverse that drives me nuts, but these kind of events more than make up for it!
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Post by booshman on Sept 29, 2019 3:54:28 GMT -5
I'd bet the farm on him not putting the suit on. Can't risk getting type cast now.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 29, 2019 8:57:32 GMT -5
Wow...so this is a real thing now. I didn’t even realize they were shooting already. Wellings got the standard farmboy Kent style going on. The big reveal I’m waiting on is to see Routh in a brand new Superman suit and to see all three Supermen together. HOLY CRAP!!! This is so awesome to see. I got a bad feeling we're not going to see Welling in costume.... STILL--- but, Erica Durance hasn't aged much at all! Great to see this, though. This is one of those things that a fanboy grows up dreaming up & imagining, but never can see happen. There's a giant chunk of the Berliantiverse that drives me nuts, but these kind of events more than make up for it! I’ve wondered myself if one of the concessions to get Welling on board is no suit. We know he’s been Superman for several years by his point so he has a suit but if he doesn’t wear it they may just say he got pulled into all this while he didn’t have his Superman costume. I’d rather be he wear the suit to make this more special but if he doesn’t at least they got him. Still it’ll be really disappointing if he doesn’t suit it.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 29, 2019 13:45:22 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP!!! This is so awesome to see. I got a bad feeling we're not going to see Welling in costume.... STILL--- but, Erica Durance hasn't aged much at all! Great to see this, though. This is one of those things that a fanboy grows up dreaming up & imagining, but never can see happen. There's a giant chunk of the Berliantiverse that drives me nuts, but these kind of events more than make up for it! I’ve wondered myself if one of the concessions to get Welling on board is no suit. We know he’s been Superman for several years by his point so he has a suit but if he doesn’t wear it they may just say he got pulled into all this while he didn’t have his Superman costume. I’d rather be he wear the suit to make this more special but if he doesn’t at least they got him. Still it’ll be really disappointing if he doesn’t suit it. Hm... I imagine it's probably self-concious body issues that maybe Welling never wanted to talk about. If it's lasted for ten years, that may still ring true. If we saw an early promo still for Routh but not Welling--- I also be surprised if it shows up at this point.... but at least seeing all the Superman actors in the same frame acknowledging each other will still be cool.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 29, 2019 13:58:23 GMT -5
Nah I don’t think it’s a body issue like him being self conscious with how his body looks in something form fitting. It’s something specifically about wearing a Superman suit. He just didn’t want to. Wether that was because he didn’t think he should have for story/character arc reasons or because he thinks the suit is goofy (and that he’d look goofy in it) who knows.
He’s openly said he’d love to play Batman and he’d be in a form fitting comic booky padded textured suit there too. Only difference is Batman wears a mask and the darker colors. I just think he thinks the Batman suit is more cool so he doesn’t have a problem with that one. There was also the issue of being willing to guest star on The Flash but not Supergirl. It’s something about Superman that’s the problem.
If he does wear the Superman costume in COIE I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re trying to hide that for as long as possible—maybe until the show airs—to give fans a real surprise. They know there are a lot of people that have wanted to see a real, full body shot of Welling in a Superman costume for 18 years. It’s a big deal...at least to Smallville fans.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Sept 30, 2019 2:42:37 GMT -5
Nah I don’t think it’s a body issue like him being self conscious with how his body looks in something form fitting. It’s something specifically about wearing a Superman suit. He just didn’t want to. Wether that was because he didn’t think he should have for story/character arc reasons or because he thinks the suit is goofy (and that he’d look goofy in it) who knows. He’s openly said he’d love to play Batman and he’d be in a form fitting comic booky padded textured suit there too. Only difference is Batman wears a mask and the darker colors. I just think he thinks the Batman suit is more cool so he doesn’t have a problem with that one. There was also the issue of being willing to guest star on The Flash but not Supergirl. It’s something about Superman that’s the problem. If he does wear the Superman costume in COIE I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re trying to hide that for as long as possible—maybe until the show airs—to give fans a real surprise. They know there are a lot of people that have wanted to see a real, full body shot of Welling in a Superman costume for 18 years. It’s a big deal...at least to Smallville fans. Given that the fans supported the show that gave him the Smallville career... and him HAVING to be aware of how meaningful it would be for Smallville fans, that would be a nice 'giving back' to all the fans who were (including me) disappointed in not seeing THAT moment at the end of the series. It always struck me as a little selfish, given what he got from the show and fans. It is also a pity that Rosenbaum didn't join.... but given the straight talk about what the producers offered to him... hard to blame him for not participating.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 30, 2019 15:47:15 GMT -5
I kinda agree. I think he should have bitten the bullet and worn the suit for that final shot. True he worked hard and really gave up his life for ten years with those crazy hours but it’s not like he wasn’t eventually handsomely rewarded financially speaking. By the time he was a producer I’m sure he was making great money by tv standards. Not “FRIENDS” money but I’m sure he did well.
As for Rosenbaum I’m not calling him a liar but I just wonder if he didn’t want to do it no matter the circumstances. His Social media explanation did seem to be composed to elicit the greatest amount of sympathy possible to not look like the bad guy in this. Maybe he priced himself out with a high asking fee. He’s said long before now he had no interest in playing the Lex Luthor character again on tv. Who knows what “no money” means without any context. “No money” for him could have been acceptable for someone else. Maybe he had higher expectations. Maybe he was expecting the same thing he earned on Smallville or the same thing the regular cast members of the CW DC shows earn. This is all pure speculation on my part. If he didn’t want to do it he didn’t want to do it. He’s got every right to turn it down if he doesn’t want to do it.
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Post by Metallo on Sept 30, 2019 15:48:52 GMT -5
Two (super)guys, a girl, and a Kent family farm. Sounds like a porn parody. Super sandwich? Nah that sounds even worse. 😂 Pretty interesting that Wellings dressed in the Smallville farmboy Clark style and Hoechlins dressed as Metropolis reporter Clark.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 1, 2019 0:12:29 GMT -5
I kinda agree. I think he should have bitten the bullet and worn the suit for that final shot. True he worked hard and really gave up his life for ten years with those crazy hours but it’s not like he wasn’t eventually handsomely rewarded financially speaking. By the time he was a producer I’m sure he was making great money by tv standards. Not “FRIENDS” money but I’m sure he did well. As for Rosenbaum I’m not calling him a liar but I just wonder if he didn’t want to do it no matter the circumstances. His Social media explanation did seem to be composed to elicit the greatest amount of sympathy possible to not look like the bad guy in this. Maybe he priced himself out with a high asking fee. He’s said long before now he had no interest in playing the Lex Luthor character again on tv. Who knows what “no money” means without any context. “No money” for him could have been acceptable for someone else. Maybe he had higher expectations. Maybe he was expecting the same thing he earned on Smallville or the same thing the regular cast members of the CW DC shows earn. This is all pure speculation on my part. If he didn’t want to do it he didn’t want to do it. He’s got every right to turn it down if he doesn’t want to do it. What's annoying is an actor who owes his retirement money indirectly from the fans not wanting to uphold a creative tradition of wearing the symbolic costume the character is known for. Kirk Alyn wore it. George Reeves wore it. Christopher Reeve wore it. Dean Cain wore it. Brandon wore it... I guess if someone REALLY has an issue wearing it, then, I'd rather that person not wear it... but....I feel worse for fan friends who stuck it out on Smallville for THAT moment at the end that never happened. (I guess Gotham did it better?) It's not like the fans are asking him to do something to dishonor his family or something--- so, it is irritating... but, there's more irritating things and bigger things in life, so...meh. You make good points on Rosenbaum.... It is hard to know all the real details with offers with actors and producers. To this day, I know there's a 'he said/she said' between J. Michael Stracinski & the actress on Babylon 5... so, anyhow- I do have to say that I'm mostly glad we get Routh back as Supes, having Welling & Durance back as their Smallville characters is also an unexpected cool bonus. So, I can't be too greedy.... but I don't understand how they could be shooting NOW and still be 'in talks' with other actors for parts for the miniseries.
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 1, 2019 0:23:41 GMT -5
Two (super)guys, a girl, and a Kent family farm. Sounds like a porn parody. Super sandwich? Nah that sounds even worse. 😂 Pretty interesting that Wellings dressed in the Smallville farmboy Clark style and Hoechlins dressed as Metropolis reporter Clark. The angle and the wide-angle lens is pretty awkward- doesn't seem to flatter Hoechlin or Welling here....
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Post by Metallo on Oct 1, 2019 5:55:58 GMT -5
I kinda agree. I think he should have bitten the bullet and worn the suit for that final shot. True he worked hard and really gave up his life for ten years with those crazy hours but it’s not like he wasn’t eventually handsomely rewarded financially speaking. By the time he was a producer I’m sure he was making great money by tv standards. Not “FRIENDS” money but I’m sure he did well. As for Rosenbaum I’m not calling him a liar but I just wonder if he didn’t want to do it no matter the circumstances. His Social media explanation did seem to be composed to elicit the greatest amount of sympathy possible to not look like the bad guy in this. Maybe he priced himself out with a high asking fee. He’s said long before now he had no interest in playing the Lex Luthor character again on tv. Who knows what “no money” means without any context. “No money” for him could have been acceptable for someone else. Maybe he had higher expectations. Maybe he was expecting the same thing he earned on Smallville or the same thing the regular cast members of the CW DC shows earn. This is all pure speculation on my part. If he didn’t want to do it he didn’t want to do it. He’s got every right to turn it down if he doesn’t want to do it. What's annoying is an actor who owes his retirement money indirectly from the fans not wanting to uphold a creative tradition of wearing the symbolic costume the character is known for. Kirk Alyn wore it. George Reeves wore it. Christopher Reeve wore it. Dean Cain wore it. Brandon wore it... I guess if someone REALLY has an issue wearing it, then, I'd rather that person not wear it... but....I feel worse for fan friends who stuck it out on Smallville for THAT moment at the end that never happened. (I guess Gotham did it better?) It's not like the fans are asking him to do something to dishonor his family or something--- so, it is irritating... but, there's more irritating things and bigger things in life, so...meh. You make good points on Rosenbaum.... It is hard to know all the real details with offers with actors and producers. To this day, I know there's a 'he said/she said' between J. Michael Stracinski & the actress on Babylon 5... so, anyhow- I do have to say that I'm mostly glad we get Routh back as Supes, having Welling & Durance back as their Smallville characters is also an unexpected cool bonus. So, I can't be too greedy.... but I don't understand how they could be shooting NOW and still be 'in talks' with other actors for parts for the miniseries. I mean...yeah it would have been nice to get “everyone” back and do it as a twelve episode miniseries or two movies like Endgame but this is still more than I EVER expected to see. This is the kind of stuff I used to dream about as a kid but never thought it was possible. We all know how tv works. Once a show is over you usually don’t see the actors all back years later especially if the show wasn’t a big hit. Welling AND Routh...together as Superman? Who knew that would happen back in 2006 when everyone was arguing which one was better? Shipp back as Barry AND in the suit? For me hearing THAT flash theme was as cool as hearing the Williams Superman theme in theaters again in 2006. Kevin Conroy playing Bruce Wayne in the flesh? It’s all a little mind blowing as a long time fan. This kind of stuff just wasn’t done on superhero tv before. We were lucky to get costumed bad guys and now we get this? Who ever thought the old birds of prey tv show would be revisited? I bet they have a lot more surprises in store too.
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Post by Metallo on Oct 1, 2019 16:24:08 GMT -5
I still think this is going to play out like the comic with Routh taking on a role similar to the earth 2 Superman’s. Only they’re combining it with other things like Kingdom Come.
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Post by Metallo on Oct 2, 2019 18:52:05 GMT -5
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Post by Metallo on Oct 3, 2019 16:20:25 GMT -5
Looks like Clark has moved up in the world. Wasn’t he the editor of the daily star in the earth 2 stories?
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Post by crazy_asian_man on Oct 3, 2019 17:25:06 GMT -5
Possible hopeful theory: WB/DC is giving extra resources to do a 'beta test' on interest of a Superman Routh tv series, rather than Hoechlin.... hence, closing up ROuth's part in Legends to give him time to prep for a potential tv show? (Hope but probably not)
On another note- that Kent photo is awesome! Thank zod it's not going to be a strict cameo!
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Post by Metallo on Oct 3, 2019 17:50:42 GMT -5
I don’t think so but maybe the mostly positive reception this is getting won’t go unnoticed by WB and they decided to do something later. This is a total pipe dream that would never happen but I wouldn’t mind if a dc rebirth style situation happened and DCEU history was altered by this and Routh Superman was thrown into the the movies to replace Cavill Superman. In the comics New 52 Superman was killed and Post Crisis Superman took over for him. Then their histories were merged. Do a streamlined simplified version of that with Routh. Convoluted I know but I’d love to see Routh get another shot on the big screen.
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