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Post by Valentine Smith on Apr 5, 2012 11:31:36 GMT -5
ahhhhh...Action Comics #8 was AWESOME.
We've all been waiting for Superman to start behaving like SUPERMAN, right? It hasn't happened in Action, JL, or Superman yet, right? Well, here in Action Comics #8, he really becomes Superman, and it's great. Grant hits all the right beats with his dialogue, and finally Superman is "in character".
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Post by cypher85 on Apr 6, 2012 18:57:51 GMT -5
eh...art was too all over the place to really enjoy the issue. The plot was pretty good though. I am not a fan of the redone metallo at all though, the design is horrible IMO.
Spoiler...
It's weird, but intriguing that Luthor is feeding supes information
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Post by Valentine Smith on Apr 7, 2012 10:49:19 GMT -5
Yeah, also not a fan of that design OR the Steel design, or even the Brainiac one. I think we'll see all of those change/evolve.
I don't understand why Rags Morales can't meet a deadline. The guy's a great artist, I really truly love his work, but I don't think what he does should take so long. I like that, for the most part, they used the fill-in artists for other "chapters" of the story, but there were a few pages in the middle that were clearly rush jobs and it just didn't work.
SPOILER:
The Lex thing IS really interesting. Clark's "cover" there was elegant. Also, the creepy midget dude looks like he's gonna amount to something. I wonder if he ties into any Apokolips/New Genesis stuff? Not too thrilled about the Kraven the Hunter rip-off villain they teased, though.
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Post by Valentine Smith on Apr 9, 2012 9:22:29 GMT -5
www.newsarama.com/comics/rags-morales-redesigning-superman.htmlCool interview with Rags Morales where he explains some of the difficulties he's had with the project. But it sounds like him and Grant are sticking around for awhile, so that's a good thing. It doesn't sound like "the new 52" is going away anytime soon!
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Post by cypher85 on May 1, 2012 6:56:01 GMT -5
If this is true then FUCk
From Superman Homepage
"April 30, 2012: Scott Lobdell to Replace Jurgens & Giffen on
"Superman"
Superman BleedingCool.com claim to have received word that there'll be another change in the creative team controlling the "Superman" comic book title after the up-coming Zero issue taking place in September.
I understand that Scott Lobdell, the writer of Red Hood And The Outlaws, Teen Titans and Superboy is to add another, more prominent book, to his New DCU repertoire.
Namely the monthly Superman title, currently created by Dan Jurgens and Keith Giffen.
Note: All the original New 52 titles will get a issue 0 in September, telling year one stories, with regular numbering returning in October."
I started superboy and had to drop it after 3 issues, and I made it through one issue of Teen Titans. Lobdell has been sucking it up in the Nu52.
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 1, 2012 7:01:34 GMT -5
nnnnoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
Maybe it's just for the zero issue? Please???
Fuck. FUCK!
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 1, 2012 7:21:49 GMT -5
ok. Some quick digging reveals that the "source" of this story appears to be Screaming Troll Bleeding Cool. Which means there's at LEAST a fifty percent chance of it being bullshit.
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Post by cypher85 on May 1, 2012 7:50:23 GMT -5
The article from Superman homepage states that Lobdell is coming on after the 0 issue. Damn!
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 1, 2012 7:56:32 GMT -5
I see that, but their "source" is Screaming Troll which is, to say the least, unreliable. Not a single reputable news site has reported this.
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Post by cypher85 on May 1, 2012 8:08:45 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure bleeding cool has actually broken a lot of stories, so I can't completely discredit them. I believe they were the first to report about dc undertaking the new 52.
I really do hope it's fake though.
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 1, 2012 8:16:00 GMT -5
Yeah, well, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I refuse to give them any credit or believe a word they say until they credit their sources. Vile, troll-mongering, gossip site...
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Post by cypher85 on May 1, 2012 12:59:31 GMT -5
As much as the new costume is NOT growing on me, I gotta say this cover for Superman #11 by Jurgens and Rapmund (give me back Booster Dammit) is pretty freaking sweet.  |
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 1, 2012 13:52:44 GMT -5
That is pretty awesome. When it's not drawn as something bulky, I dig it. It's when it makes his upper body look weirdly proportioned that the other problems with it really stand out.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 1, 2012 19:14:57 GMT -5
 man, now i'm hearing the jurgens/giffen are phoning it in.... ugh. i am a total bag of fanboy wank douche. i am only buying superman comics because...it says "superman" on it.  remember how shitty superman comics were after superman beat cyborg superman? right after doomsday? it was awful. subplots that went nowhere, a dogmatic serial format that interrupted any attempt at narrative flow... then the electric-super-twins!  it picked up again with jeph loeb, then dipped again, the picked up with geoff johns, then plummeted... solution? new 52. ACTION- VERY good, but grant morrison made electric blue superman work Superman vol 3 - FAIL justice league - FAIL man. maybe there is a curse. it pains me, but i really can't afford to buy shit. i'll do a couple issues after "zero" and if it doesnt click i'm done.
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 1, 2012 19:25:42 GMT -5
I'm enjoying Giffen/Jurgens so far. It's only been two issues, and those two issues have been better than the entire first six AND the entire Justice League run so far. I'm willing to go with it.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 1, 2012 19:37:59 GMT -5
I'm enjoying Giffen/Jurgens so far. It's only been two issues, and those two issues have been better than the entire first six AND the entire Justice League run so far. I'm willing to go with it. i trust you, but with multi-issue arcs i wait till i have all the bits before i read. believe it or not, i read DOOMSDAY in one sitting, after collecting the crossover for weeks. ;D |
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 1, 2012 19:48:29 GMT -5
You're a sick man, you know that?
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 1, 2012 21:13:56 GMT -5
You're a sick man, you know that? it's a sick world. |
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 8, 2012 23:10:26 GMT -5
VAL, the rest of you,
i want your thoughts on ACTION #9. STAT.
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 9, 2012 8:07:51 GMT -5
Loved it. Action #9 felt more like a Superman story then most of the Superman stories we've had in either of these books for the last year. Grant introduced President Superman as a throwaway, alternate universe character in like, two panels of Final Crisis a few years ago. Never thought I'd see him again. Should have known Grant had plans for him.
I love that the creepy midget from Action #1 showed up, too. I wonder who this guy is?
It's also a pretty subtle/scathing damnation of how DC has gotten Superman wrong over and over again over the last few years, with it's bit about how this wonderful idea keeps getting corrupted until he's just a faceless trademark. There's a pretty subtle hat-tip to Alvin Schwartz's incredible memoir An Unlikely Prophet.
Probably the best issue of the series since issue #1, and a fine example of what Grant can do when they take the shackles off him and just let him tell insane stories.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 9, 2012 22:13:36 GMT -5
Loved it. Action #9 felt more like a Superman story then most of the Superman stories we've had in either of these books for the last year. Grant introduced President Superman as a throwaway, alternate universe character in like, two panels of Final Crisis a few years ago. Never thought I'd see him again. Should have known Grant had plans for him. I love that the creepy midget from Action #1 showed up, too. I wonder who this guy is? It's also a pretty subtle/scathing damnation of how DC has gotten Superman wrong over and over again over the last few years, with it's bit about how this wonderful idea keeps getting corrupted until he's just a faceless trademark. There's a pretty subtle hat-tip to Alvin Schwartz's incredible memoir An Unlikely Prophet. Probably the best issue of the series since issue #1, and a fine example of what Grant can do when they take the shackles off him and just let him tell insane stories. looking at a few blogs here and there...bit of a stir... like morrison is taking a shot across the bow with editorial mandates... |
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 10, 2012 6:17:09 GMT -5
He's one of the biggest stars in the business, he can get away with murder. DC has already alienated so many of the other best writers (Busiek and Waid won't work for them anymore), so they can't be in much of a hurry to piss off Grant. It's really a terrific issue, and despite there not being an appearance by the current "real" Superman, it articulates more of what makes Superman great than anything since All-Star.
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Post by Jor-L5150 on May 25, 2012 10:59:52 GMT -5
i'm getting the vibe that DC is getting rid of "clark kent".
jurgens did an interview that suggests that superman doesn't need/always use a secret identity....
thoughts?
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Post by cypher85 on May 25, 2012 12:03:04 GMT -5
Have you read Superman #9? "Clark" isn't going away, they are just exploring the media's interest in whether Superman has a secret identity.
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Post by Valentine Smith on May 25, 2012 21:07:34 GMT -5
I rather enjoyed this issue. It's kinda inconsequential, but I love the art so much that it was a pretty easy read. At least it's fun now.
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