2 new pics of Brandon Routh in new Superman costume for COIE

[Metallo]

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 10, 2019 11:39:11 GMT -5 Metallo said:

This was GREAT.
I hope it is the CW sending Routh to do these promotions on their dime.

Was also great to hear that appreciation for his return to Supes came at the right age and time.... though of course the $$$ that would have been gotten for a series of Superman movie sequels that never happened had to be painful- but hearing that he does recognize that there's a giant amount of fans that love(d) his work as Supes has an effect, is good to hear.

I still wonder/ hope that his appearance as Supes gets enough attention that it gets WB to rethink using him again for the big screen. If so, good to act quick.... though a Kingdom Come version for movies I'd be open to!

[Metallo]

I’m hoping this leads to...something for him. Especially in a time where some in WB are saying Superman isn’t relevant anymore. The kingdom come Superman may be the way in to solve that problem. He’s still very much the classic Superman but he’s been through more than enough tragedy for people to feel for him even though he’s still tried to remain an optimistic hopeful man of steel.

[Metallo]

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 12, 2019 13:46:52 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I’m hoping this leads to...something for him. Especially in a time where some in WB are saying Superman isn’t relevant anymore. The kingdom come Superman may be the way in to solve that problem. He’s still very much the classic Superman but he’s been through more than enough tragedy for people to feel for him even though he’s still tried to remain an optimistic hopeful man of steel.

To me it makes more sense than a recast Supergirl or Flash movie....

[Metallo]

Supergirl could work but not before Superman is sorted out. Flash just needs to be out on the back burner for now. It’s turned into a Superman reborn/lives situation of development heII. Let it settle down for a few years and try again. I’d do what MOS did with Smallville and wait until after the show is off.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 12, 2019 14:31:42 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Supergirl could work but not before Superman is sorted out. Flash just needs to be out on the back burner for now. It’s turned into a Superman reborn/lives situation of development heII. Let it settle down for a few years and try again. I’d do what MOS did with Smallville and wait until after the show is off.

I still think it's incredibly bizarre that WB doesn't at least TRY with a proven actor on tv as the character and upgrade it to the movies.

Didn't it work for Trek/ Next Gen to a degree?

[Metallo]

True but that’s not how they see it for some reason. I think because there’s already I history of tv and film versions of the characters being separated. There are so many separated divisions in WB. Tv is still seen as lesser. I guess we can blame that on the massive success of some of their early films. Marvel studios has sort of done it with secondary characters going back and forth but they are the exception.

What Feige is doing with folding all the divisions under one corporate roof so to speak would help with dc using the same version of a character on tv or film. Feige has said characters that start on tv will now jump to the big screen.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 12, 2019 20:13:38 GMT -5 Metallo said:

True but that’s not how they see it for some reason. I think because there’s already I history of tv and film versions of the characters being separated. There are so many separated divisions in WB. Tv is still seen as lesser. I guess we can blame that on the massive success of some of their early films. Marvel studios has sort of done it with secondary characters going back and forth but they are the exception.

What Feige is doing with folding all the divisions under one corporate roof so to speak would help with dc using the same version of a character on tv or film. Feige has said characters that start on tv will now jump to the big screen.

I'm glad that Feige is keeping the casting (apparently) with Daredevil.

Iron Fist is rumored to be joining Shang-chi, but recast. I'd have more joy if I didn't hate Feige's choice for Shang-chi. Kevin broke my faith in him with that.

[Metallo]

Some cool new photos with Routh

[crazy_asian_man]

VERY cool!
Especially liked the one with Brandon & Melissa--- though I wish it was better lit. (Would be nice if there are other photos that pop up of both of them together).

On another note.... suprised to see Brandon and Tyler about the same height? Or is this some photo manipulation? In some wide shots on the show, I could swear Brandon is much taller.

Also.... the shot with Clark Kent at his desk.... does this suggest a deleted scene or a forthcoming scene next year? Hm...

[Metallo]

It’s just a trick of the camera. Hoechlin looks taller than usual because of the angle. He’s also closer to the camera.

[Metallo]

[crazy_asian_man]

Awesome!!!
Loving every scrap available of Routh/ Supes- as he is/was the only real intended successor for the Donner/Reeve version. Again, hoping there's a little more Routh/Supes in the conclusion....

[Metallo]

One interesting thing is Routh confirms one of my suspicions on why Hoechlin and Benoist have their capes attached the way they do. It’s for comfort and easier removal. The capes probably get really heavy and cumbersome after shooting all day but can snap right on or off under those clasps.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 18, 2019 17:08:48 GMT -5 Metallo said:

One interesting thing is Routh confirms one of my suspicions on why Hoechlin and Benoist have their capes attached the way they do. It’s for comfort and easier removal. The capes probably get really heavy and cumbersome after shooting all day but can snap right on or off under those clasps.

It's interesting that Routh mentions that his Superman's son was also killed- it made perfect sense, it's interesting how they seemed to edit that bit of info out when he's mentioning who he lost in the attack.

[atp]

Brandon looks so much better now as Superman than he did in 2006.

His face has matured, but in a good way, and he looks stronger than he did too.

The resemblance to Christopher Reeve is a lot stronger now too (I never thought it was that big in SR to begin with), but he is clearly also his own person.

If they don't reboot the Superman movies with him now, it would be an idiotic waste of opportunity.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 19, 2019 0:14:35 GMT -5 atp said:

Brandon looks so much better now as Superman than he did in 2006.

His face has matured, but in a good way, and he looks stronger than he did too.

The resemblance to Christopher Reeve is a lot stronger now too (I never thought it was that big in SR to begin with), but he is clearly also his own person.

If they don't reboot the Superman movies with him now, it would be an idiotic waste of opportunity.

Absolutely!

[Metallo]

Dec 18, 2019 23:50:31 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

It's interesting that Routh mentions that his Superman's son was also killed- it made perfect sense, it's interesting how they seemed to edit that bit of info out when he's mentioning who he lost in the attack.

He’s talking about how he lost his son Jason in the antimatter wave, CAM. Not in the gas attack on the Daily Planet. Routh even says so starting at 2:25 when he says his universe has been wiped out by the anti matter wave. Marc Guggenheim also confirmed on twitter that Jason was still alive after Lois and the others died.

It is cool that Brandon finally got to play an evil Superman. I feel like it’s one of those bucket list things every Superman should get to mark off. I think he was one of the few actors who've played the character that never did. Even Hoechlin got to play one in Elseworlds and Cavill got to a bit in BVS and JL.

[Metallo]

Dec 19, 2019 0:14:35 GMT -5 atp said:

Brandon looks so much better now as Superman than he did in 2006.

His face has matured, but in a good way, and he looks stronger than he did too.

The resemblance to Christopher Reeve is a lot stronger now too (I never thought it was that big in SR to begin with), but he is clearly also his own person.

If they don't reboot the Superman movies with him now, it would be an idiotic waste of opportunity.

I think he just needed that maturity especially to play an established Superman and not a rookie. Part of the problem with Superman Returns was Supes was meant to have been around for years but Routh looked too young to play that. Even though he was around the same age as Reeve when they were both cast he just looked way more boyish than Reeve ever did. Now at 40 he’s just right to play a middle aged veteran Superman.

I think Rouths turn this time around might be the most well received take on Superman by the audience...since Reeve. Welling never actually suited up so he kind of disqualified himself and Cain is debatable. Cavill’s take divided audiences and while Hoechlin got praise for his performance and the writing in his first appearance a lot of fans have had issues with his Superman since then. Most people seem to be happy with Routh and their take on the character and especially the suit. There’s really not much to complain about.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 19, 2019 8:58:52 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Dec 18, 2019 23:50:31 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

It's interesting that Routh mentions that his Superman's son was also killed- it made perfect sense, it's interesting how they seemed to edit that bit of info out when he's mentioning who he lost in the attack.

He’s talking about how he lost his son Jason in the antimatter wave, CAM. Not in the gas attack on the Daily Planet. Routh even says so starting at 2:25 when he says his universe has been wiped out by the anti matter wave. Marc Guggenheim also confirmed on twitter that Jason was still alive after Lois and the others died.

It is cool that Brandon finally got to play an evil Superman. I feel like it’s one of those bucket list things every Superman should get to mark off. I think he was one of the few actors who've played the character that never did. Even Hoechlin got to play one in Elseworlds and Cavill got to a bit in BVS and JL.

Thanks for clarifying it, Metallo. I'll have to rewatch. I assumed that it was a different universe he failed to save, not his own in particular.

[crazy_asian_man]

Dec 19, 2019 9:06:30 GMT -5 Metallo said:

Dec 19, 2019 0:14:35 GMT -5 atp said:

Brandon looks so much better now as Superman than he did in 2006.

His face has matured, but in a good way, and he looks stronger than he did too.

The resemblance to Christopher Reeve is a lot stronger now too (I never thought it was that big in SR to begin with), but he is clearly also his own person.

If they don't reboot the Superman movies with him now, it would be an idiotic waste of opportunity.

I think he just needed that maturity especially to play an established Superman and not a rookie. Part of the problem with Superman Returns was Supes was meant to have been around for years but Routh looked too young to play that. Even though he was around the same age as Reeve when they were both cast he just looked way more boyish than Reeve ever did. Now at 40 he’s just right to play a middle aged veteran Superman.

I think Rouths turn this time around might be the most well received take on Superman by the audience...since Reeve. Welling never actually suited up so he kind of disqualified himself and Cain is debatable. Cavill’s take divided audiences and while Hoechlin got praise for his performance and the writing in his first appearance a lot of fans have had issues with his Superman since then. Most people seem to be happy with Routh and their take on the character and especially the suit. There’s really not much to complain about.

Rouths' interviews echoed much of what you said.
For fans and him, thrilled he got that return (albeit in a tv budget)- but I do wonder if any of the press will wake up WB/DC to give him another opportunity to play Supes either as part of the JL or as part of the Supergirl movie or a solo movie.

If there was any complaints on the SR movie (and we know there was)- most thought Routh casting was great. I do admire that Routh says that under the right take, that he would be willing to come back.
Maybe it's best for him creatively that he wasn't chosen for the Snyder MOS...

[atp]

A total reboot with Routh wouldn't "make sense" chronologically. But I don't think people would care.

Audiences today don't obsess over plot holes and continuity the way we might have done in the 80s and 90s. Attention spans are low, and nobody cared that Judi Dench returned as M in Casino Royale, which was a reboot.

SR can always be explained as happening in some weird alternate universe anyway.

I'd love to see the origin story redone properly. STM, but for a modern generation.

It could never be the same, of course, but it doesn't need to be. Casino Royale wasn't Sean Connery's Dr No, but it worked perfectly.

[Metallo]

Dec 20, 2019 0:11:59 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Dec 19, 2019 8:58:52 GMT -5 Metallo said:

He’s talking about how he lost his son Jason in the antimatter wave, CAM. Not in the gas attack on the Daily Planet. Routh even says so starting at 2:25 when he says his universe has been wiped out by the anti matter wave. Marc Guggenheim also confirmed on twitter that Jason was still alive after Lois and the others died.

It is cool that Brandon finally got to play an evil Superman. I feel like it’s one of those bucket list things every Superman should get to mark off. I think he was one of the few actors who've played the character that never did. Even Hoechlin got to play one in Elseworlds and Cavill got to a bit in BVS and JL.

Thanks for clarifying it, Metallo. I'll have to rewatch. I assumed that it was a different universe he failed to save, not his own in particular.

Well they were all getting wiped out and all eventually did get wiped out so even if he wasn’t talking about his earth in a particular scene that’s what he meant. I’m not sure which universe was destroyed when he breached back onto the waverider angry but that would certainly explain his anger. But then I think superman would be angry no matter what if he lost a lot of people and couldn’t stop it.

[Metallo]

Dec 20, 2019 0:16:41 GMT -5 crazy_asian_man said:

Dec 19, 2019 9:06:30 GMT -5 Metallo said:

I think he just needed that maturity especially to play an established Superman and not a rookie. Part of the problem with Superman Returns was Supes was meant to have been around for years but Routh looked too young to play that. Even though he was around the same age as Reeve when they were both cast he just looked way more boyish than Reeve ever did. Now at 40 he’s just right to play a middle aged veteran Superman.

I think Rouths turn this time around might be the most well received take on Superman by the audience...since Reeve. Welling never actually suited up so he kind of disqualified himself and Cain is debatable. Cavill’s take divided audiences and while Hoechlin got praise for his performance and the writing in his first appearance a lot of fans have had issues with his Superman since then. Most people seem to be happy with Routh and their take on the character and especially the suit. There’s really not much to complain about.

Rouths' interviews echoed much of what you said.
For fans and him, thrilled he got that return (albeit in a tv budget)- but I do wonder if any of the press will wake up WB/DC to give him another opportunity to play Supes either as part of the JL or as part of the Supergirl movie or a solo movie.

If there was any complaints on the SR movie (and we know there was)- most thought Routh casting was great. I do admire that Routh says that under the right take, that he would be willing to come back.
Maybe it's best for him creatively that he wasn't chosen for the Snyder MOS...

I think time has been kind to SR especially when it’s compared to MOS. People got used to what it was trying to do and in comparison it doesn’t look as flawed as it used to. It’s like an average looking girl next to an ugly girl. Looks a lot better in comparison 😉

Plus Routh only got the one chance before. People know that wasn’t fair. At least Cavill got three and could have had four of he’d taken the pay they offered. It’s much easier to feel sorry for Routh because he got screwed far worse.