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Post by doomsday1 on Oct 19, 2016 9:25:01 GMT -5
I think he was a lot stronger than Routh if I'm honest.
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Post by doomsday1 on Oct 15, 2016 12:47:30 GMT -5
I'm also getting sick of these superspeed takeoffs. They look fake and have none of the grace that they should have. Also getting tired of seeing the ground crack and shatter on takeoffs. And same goes for seeing particles of sand and stones swirling around. All that c.rap needs to go away already. Save that for Ironman. What are you talking about? Iron man doesn't fly like that. Do you mean Thor? Iron mans landings are pretty much *hover a couple of feel off the ground, repulsors turn off, and he drops* not enough to shatter the earth. The take offs are like rockets but there's no floating particles of debris. He doesn't negate gravity like in MOS. Guy doesn't have a clue haha!
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Post by doomsday1 on Oct 15, 2016 12:45:24 GMT -5
It's incredibly cheesy and some of his dialogue is embarrassing but overall I really like what the guys done, good take on the character in my option.
However he looks like poop. Even getting away from the really crappy suit, facially he just doesn't look all that great, looks a bit small and a bit weedy too
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Post by doomsday1 on Apr 15, 2016 9:53:52 GMT -5
Yeah both STM and MOS go over the origins and the usual stuff again but they don't share any real similarities outwith that.
One's about a warm charming alien who reveals himself to the adulation of everyone where he then foils Luthor in a land development scheme. The other is about the idea that the alien wouldn't be accepted and viewed as a threat and the films about his emotional battle with this all the while attempting to defeat the surviving kryptonians who were locked in the phantom zone. Yeah they touch on a lone of the same things and feature the same characters because they're Superman films, but that's where it ends.
By the way I enjoyed MOS a lot more than BvS, purely on the basis it's a more focussed story and at least you get a couple of cool 'classic Superman' moments. Doubling down in the mopey man crap in BvS just made it much harder to enjoy for me. If I wasn't a huge Superman fan I think I'd have really liked BvS much more.
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Post by doomsday1 on Apr 15, 2016 9:48:38 GMT -5
I reckon Civil War will be a good solid film, you can at least guarantee a focussed well structured story for these films.
However the reviews mean nothing to me, you could release any old crap and as long as it had the MARVEL name on it, it would get a good review. Look at the likes of Ant-Man, pretty forgettable dirge but still got good write ups.
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Post by doomsday1 on Apr 14, 2016 7:21:10 GMT -5
MoS isn't anything like STM
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Post by doomsday1 on Apr 13, 2016 8:22:30 GMT -5
Most of the old members like or loved it which surprised me. Thought I'd be the one defending it and most of them would hate it. Good for them though, if they enjoyed it that's all that counts in the end.
At least Affleck's officially getting his solo Batman film. That has fantastic potential
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Post by doomsday1 on Apr 7, 2016 10:03:45 GMT -5
Yeah it's pretty evident Snyder's a big Batman fan (he's been right up Frank Miller's booty for 3 years now) and almost felt Superman was just in the way in a sense. I gave the guy a good chance, I've defended him a lot because I think MOS was a good (albeit heavily flawed) film, but personally I'd be quite happy if he was never allowed to direct Superman again.
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Post by doomsday1 on Apr 7, 2016 8:07:53 GMT -5
A lot of good points. Agree with a lot of what Enrique says though he obviously enjoyed it more than I did. It's just that Superman's characterisation in the film is such a big flaw to me that it's a bit of a deal breaker, as well as structure and choppy editing. I didn't have an issue with Superman in MOS because it was an origin story and he was building towards being classic Superman, which he was to some degree at the end of the film speaking with General Swanwick. However, taking that and Clark Kent smiling in the "Welcome to the planet" ending and going back to mopey/conflicted/in need of validation Superman in BvS is just very awkward and you can tell they've been making it up as they went along. I mean I'm reading some complaints on here about the actor playing the part being a bit wooden, but Superman IS wooden in this, that's the character, not so much the actor. He's got little dialogue and little to do other than to look sad and angry. Think I said to someone before, check out Cavill in the Man from UNCLE and you'll be disappointed and what Snyder and co had at their disposal and chose NOT to use in either of these films, charm, charisma etc.
Anyway I saw it again, I enjoyed it more the second time, I'd revise my score perhaps to a 6.5/10. I still think these characters deserve a much better quality of film. I've been a big defender of Snyder, but he's had big chances now and it's clear that he's not the right guy to take these big projects and make them accessible to the general audience. He's just not enough of a story teller.
To get maximum emotional impact from things like the death of Superman (which should never have been crammed into this film) you need to have the audience fall in love with Superman again, that hasn't happened though. In addition to that you need to build a connection between Batman and Superman, to have Batman say "I'm a friend of your sons" 5 minutes after threatening to drive a spear through his skull just doesn't work for me, these things feel forced and awkward, which was always the worry from the get go when it was announced they'd be trying to cram all of this into one film.
On the death of Superman: While it didn't have the emotional impact it should have had, at his funeral, and with Bruce delivering those lines "I failed him in life" etc, the actual moment of Superman's death was well done, Cavill and Adams really sold it, I think the music does some heavy lifting in that scene too.
Affleck didn't have an easy job coming into this without being able to do any origin or any real fleshing out of his part, so he did a brilliant job and I truly hope he gets his solo Batman films, credit to Snyder, he created an excellent Batman and I'd love to see more of this, all be it with Affleck directing. When he's fighting in that warehouse, that's comfortably the best live action Batman fight we've seen.
One final point with regards to Luthor, Eisenberg is a great actor and for what he had he does a good job, he was genuinely intimidating which isn't easy when you look like he does in this film. But for me this version of Lex is so far removed from the classic version of Lex that we're used to, they might as well have given him another name and just made him separate character. I'd have rather had the tall, untouchable CEO Lex too. But this ties in with what I said previously, Superman and his fans get shortchanged in this film, in fact it's bullpoop from that perspective. He was merely a plot device to enhance Snyder's shiny new toys in Batman and Wonder Woman.
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Post by doomsday1 on Mar 29, 2016 10:02:20 GMT -5
Supergirl is a pretty weak show in my opinion. Find myself cringing regularly, I still enjoy the Flash though this season is a regression from the first season.
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Post by doomsday1 on Mar 29, 2016 10:00:32 GMT -5
The biggest problems are structure and editing. You couldn't glean any of this from the second trailer so stop pretending you had some sort of insight into how it was all going to play out. Also, you scoring it higher than me doesn't mean anything, other than that I thought it was slightly more disappointing than you did. The only concern that's been there from the minute the first trailer hit was that instead of evolving Superman as they said they would, they'd keep him as a mopey conflicted Superman, which they did in the end. The film's got great potential, it's just all wasted by poor choices. Imagine looking for a pat on the back because you initially ragged on a film you were always going to rag on regardless Especially when it's Zack Snyder and history has shown the best he can deliver is a 'good' film, there's very little chance of him ever bringing everything together to produce a 'great' film.
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Post by doomsday1 on Mar 27, 2016 15:24:29 GMT -5
If it was a good film you'd have still pissed all over it such is your hatred of Zack Snyder. Anyway going on the trailer it looked fine, the big flaws wouldn't be very evident to anyone who hadn't sat down and watched the full film.
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Post by doomsday1 on Mar 27, 2016 9:35:56 GMT -5
Probably the most poorly edited blockbuster film ever released. For the money involved and time it's taken to make it, it's staggering that it could be such a mess. There's a lot of great stuff in it and a lot of potential but it's never allowed to breathe because they've stuffed 4 stories into a 2 and a half hour film.
The cast were excellent, especially Affleck. I don't think Eisenberg was bad but that wasn't Lex Luthor, too far removed from the original character that it's not even the same guy. Cavill was fine but he didn't have much to work with, in fact the biggest disappointment of the film is the terrible characterisation of Superman, people weren't keen on him brooding and scowling in Man of Steel, so Snyder decided the best thing to do......would be to double down on that and make it even more pronounced in BvS, sheer stupidity. Fact is he's a pretty lousy Superman in this film, though it did look like he'd been tossed aside in favour of Snyder's shiny new Batman toy, after all Superman doesn't really get to speak to anyone apart from Lois
There's some really strange stuff in the plot which doesn't quite make sense to me, though it's hard to tell if I missed things because it was so bloated and frantic. Wonder Woman was a real surprise in terms of how good she was on screen, thought Gadot did well with everything she had. Doomsday was your standard CGI monster, though when he was evolving the visuals were so bad that I'm sure I've actually played video games with better graphics.
The death of Superman shouldn't have been in this at all, but that moment was well done, very touching, but it honestly shouldn't have been done in this film. It could have been a huge thing if it was done at the end of Justice League Part 1, but given that we all know Cavill is signed up to JL and Superman is in the film it really negates a lot of the emotional impact of Superman actually being dead, I mean we know he's coming back.
It doesn't deserve the level of hate it's getting, but I couldn't blame critics for not recommending it to people either, for having Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman in it, it's disappointing. For me the best thing to come out of this will be Affleck's solo Batman film, that's an exciting prospect.
Zack Snyder I think can consider himself fortunate he's about to start filming the Justice League, he really doesn't deserve it after this. He got a lot of unfair criticism after Man of Steel, but with this he really has to take his medicine because what he delivered simply wasn't good enough, in fact the prospect of him making the Justice League is a scary one at this point.
Bottom line, lots of good stuff in there, great performances, but structure, pacing and plot stop mean it's never a good film as a whole.
5.5/10
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Post by doomsday1 on Feb 28, 2016 8:45:14 GMT -5
The visuals are really pretty for the trailers, but.... It's REALLY a pity that Bale didn't say 'yes'. I thought he was (imo) the perfect Bruce Wayne (though I would have nixed the sore throat Batman choice he had). As far as Affleck goes: I'll most likely be able to be 'ok' with him in the film- in the same way that I was 'ok' with Jessica Alba as Sue Storm, or Keaton as Batman (which I know some LOVE), or Affleck as Daredevil. You make the best out of it, but most of it is due to baggage that I have from exposure to so much of his movies (and public persona). If BvS was the FIRST thing ever with him in it, it'd be easier to be objective. I never 100% was sold on him as Daredevil. He did the best he could, but I kept seeing the same Affleck rather than the character that I see in all of his movies. It may not be his problem. With Bale, he just seems to ooze the darkness. Maybe part of it was his being so low-key publicly as an actor that helped. Seeing Affleck on the actor's studio as a likeable average joe I'm sure didn't help my own view of Affleck as either DD or Batman. Once BvS starts, who knows? Maybe I'll eat my words or maybe I'll still have the same opinion, but that's nobody else's biz actually as to whether or not I seem contradictory. I was dead sure that Anthony Hopkins would never be convincing as Nixon, nor Kurt Russell as Elvis, but as each of those movies went on, I didn't notice the lack of physical resemblance in both parts at all, and only saw the characters. Hopefully it's the same here. Gadot I'm judging not by one line, but by her other movies as well. She looks great in costume, that's a giant part of any superhero role. The movie will show if I approve or not (which is all I care about truth to tell). In general: It's odd how some people feel a need to judge other's opinions on movies and judge the people having the opinion. Enjoy the opinion, respect that people have different ones, or just move on, for heaven's sake. Life is too short and full of REAL problems like health, family, and finances, than for verbal battles over superhero films. But that's my opinion. Thank you! Some people on both sides need to get this. Seems like the blind Snyder DCEU loyalists get angry at anyone who they feel might harm this films success by being nervous or critical of what they've seen in trailers. Even people who are looking Forward to the film yet say anything not seen as full on lovefesting get ripped on or called names. The name calling gets me more than anything. It's that "fall in line or f you mentality". It's no never than the people who want the film to be awful and fail no matter what. I refuse use to believe you don't see the huge irony and hypocrisy of this statement, you know coming from yourself. only skim read your response as I don't have much time but looks like more of the same, twisting and turning, feable comparisons and not really addressing my points. You should save your money pal, I think everyone knows what you're about and I'm sure you'd be better off waiting for Civil War instead. A LOT of people do have genuine reservations out with any bias or allegiance, you however do not. I'm not saying there aren't petty DC cheerleaders because clearly there's millions, so I'm not even sure you're really taking any of this in. But my point is you're the opposite to these guys, and that's not much better to be honest. Hope you at least enjoy your popcorn next month! Adios
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Post by doomsday1 on Feb 23, 2016 18:10:48 GMT -5
i don't agree with much of that Metallo. How are you supposed to rise above and use your gravitas in a film with minimal dialogue, and shag dialogue that's there is quite ham fisted? Let's face it you've made up your mind you don't fancy Cavill and will go after him accordingly and chance you get. Proof is in the pudding, you made some comment about him being upstaged by Affleck in what we've seen so far which is total bullpoop in my personal opinion. Maybe you like Affleck? Or maybe you're just heaping a little praise on him so when the film comes out and you inevitably trash it you can say "oh yeah but how can you say I didn't want it to be good, go back and look at how I praised Affleck". Essentially you're covering the bases, not everyone's blind to these things. No, I'm sorry but Batman isn't the complex role you think, look at the scripts and dialogue Kilmer and Clooney had, absolutely nothing to do with their abilities as actors and you know that.
Red Sonja being used as a comparison against a huge film like Batman v Superman? Not even a worthwhile comparison so we'll leave that one there.
I've seen more than enough on the Internet to know there's a ton of people who want that film to tank, you might be able to pull the wool over other people's eyes but I'm not that naive, I've seen it first hand. From people who just don't like Snyder to Marvel fanboys, to Nolan fanboys who don't want their version of Batman upstaged in any way. They're all over the net for everyone to see
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Post by doomsday1 on Feb 22, 2016 13:45:26 GMT -5
Let's be honest they didn't cast Gadot just to decide later they want to hide her. The film is Batman v Superman, not Batman V Superman v Wonder Woman.
Give Man From UNCLE a bash then, it might be a very standard spy storyline but Cavills excellent in it. I'm perfectly happy with him as Superman, that's not to say I don't wish they'd let him smile or show some of that charm rather than stand and look angry.
You'll always get people who'll defend films to the death, I've already seen plenty of people flip out of any criticism of BVS, but two wrongs don't make a right and their behaviour doesn't exactly justify the vaginaheads on the otherside who already know full well they'll be going into this film to trash it. Both of these crowds are unbelievably annoying. I was never overly worried about Affleck, like Damon said, he's playing Batman, it's not the deeply complex gold standard of acting that comic book fanboys would like to believe that role is.
Anyway I don't have much confidence in it for various reasons, but I'm definitely not fooled by people implying they want it to do well whilst hoping it tanks, whether that's due to an allegiance to Marvel, a burning hatred of Zack Snyder or whatever. Commenting on Gadot's abilities in this film from one little line definitely raises suspicious, especially when the line delivery is fine.
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Post by doomsday1 on Feb 21, 2016 10:33:17 GMT -5
Never read so much bollocks in my life. Gadot isn't showing enough charisma from her ONE line? Come on CAM don't be stupid
I don't understand why some of you guys are still keeping up this act of pretending you want that film to be good even though you're already sharpening the knives and getting ready to tear it to shreds. You can't hide it, no matter how you dress it up
Going on what I've seen and what I know so far, I don't think it'll be a good film, and I don't think it'll go across well, so I'm sure you'll be satisfied with the eventual outcome.
The trailers focus on Batman because he's new, we've seen superman already, and batman's the easy way to sell it, common fracking sense. You see Man From Uncle tallo? cavill's a perfectly capable actor and definitely doesn't need advice from a no mark on a message board. Think it's more a case of the writers have a hard on for trying to make superman "badass" and in doing so they've actually made him slightly one dimensional.
And for what it's worth, I find Captain America very dull as much as I liked Winter Soldier
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Post by doomsday1 on Jan 7, 2016 15:49:55 GMT -5
You're lucky you're too much of a coward to say this to ATP's face. He'd kick your booty and make you run home crying to your kids. You say that like it's an option. I wouldn't have any issue saying it directly. Also, the same could be said of what you just said to me, you stupid prick.
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Post by doomsday1 on Dec 30, 2015 11:11:42 GMT -5
I'm sorry you looked like such a tool when Enrique said he never felt he was bullied. That must have been really embarrassing for you because you looked like a complete fracking idiot after trying to perpetuate that lie for so long, and I'm sorry for that. I'm also sorry for your children who probably haven't had a Christmas these past couple of years because their old man was too busy trawling old threads on a deserted message board like a sulking man child. Do they know it's Christmas time at all? I was actually going to suggest shutting the board down altogether, for the sake of your mental health, but then there's also a concern that if that happened you'd lose it completely and go full "Falling Down".
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mr thau
Dec 5, 2015 17:07:59 GMT -5
Post by doomsday1 on Dec 5, 2015 17:07:59 GMT -5
please create in cgi new friends (try to do it)
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Post by doomsday1 on Dec 5, 2015 17:05:21 GMT -5
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Post by doomsday1 on Dec 5, 2015 17:04:39 GMT -5
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oh dear
Dec 5, 2015 17:02:46 GMT -5
Post by doomsday1 on Dec 5, 2015 17:02:46 GMT -5
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Post by doomsday1 on Dec 5, 2015 16:57:53 GMT -5
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mental
Dec 5, 2015 16:57:18 GMT -5
Post by doomsday1 on Dec 5, 2015 16:57:18 GMT -5
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